The Murder of Blake Crews

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Every time we’re together, it’s

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overshadowed by the fact that

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someone’s missing someone very

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important and their life is

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missing.

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You know, maybe him and any
children he may have had.

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My husband lost his only son.

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You’re listening to River City

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Mystery Podcast, the show that

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delves into the Evansville and

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crimes, murders, and

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disappearances.

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With your host, co-founder of

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the Humans of Evansville

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Facebook page.

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Law office worker by day.

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Insomniac researcher of the
unknown.

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By night, Matt Deig, and that
would be me.

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And welcome to episode five.

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On the evening of January
16, 2015, 20-

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year old Blake Crews is
housesitting for a so-called

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friend in Henderson, Kentucky.

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Blake had spent the entire day
trying to unsuccessfully print

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some business cards for a new
business he was trying to start.

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He wanted to start a business
teaching drum lessons.

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Blake loved music, and he was.

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He was good.

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He was a member of the marching

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band at his high school, and he

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was recruited by Kentucky

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Wesleyan to help revive their

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percussion for their band, which

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he did.

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And he did a good job of it.

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And he was in jazz band and
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so that was definitely something
he enjoyed doing.

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So he really was looking forward
to teaching drum lessons and

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maybe making a little extra
money at the same time as Blake

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is Housesitting that evening.

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I can imagine him sitting at the
couch, maybe poking away at the

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laptop trying to tweak his
business card logo.

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Maybe that design getting it
just right.

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He tweets at seven oh two p m

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watching Groundhog Day on VHS

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all night.

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What happens between seven oh

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two p m and midnight that night

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remains unknown.

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But what is known is that around
midnight, a call was made to the

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Kentucky State Police reporting
a burglary in progress.

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When police arrived, they found
Blake Cruz lying in the doorway,

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shot multiple times in the face.

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The young man, who just a few

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hours earlier was so excited

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about starting a new chapter in

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his life, lie dead in the

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doorway in a senseless murder

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that to this day remains

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unsolved.

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As I was doing my research, I

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wanted to get to know who Blake

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was.

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I don’t just want to view this

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as another unsolved crime with

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faceless victims.

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I wanted to get to know what

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kind of loss this was for the

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community, his family, for his

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friends.

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I had the opportunity to speak

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with his mother, Donna, his

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sister Amanda, his friends Kyle

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and Brandon, as well as some

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other people associated with

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this case.

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And you’re going to hear some of
their interviews in this later

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in this episode.

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I don’t want to get into the
nuts and bolts of the case as

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far as the crime scene and all
of the suspects and everything,

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I want this to be more of a I
want this to draw attention to

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the case itself and for the
community to realize what kind

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of loss this was, and maybe that
would trigger someone to step

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forward with some information
that might lead down a path

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where this case can be solved.

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Blake’s family and friends

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deserve peace and closure and

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justice.

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They need to know what happened
to Blake and why, and to know

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that the person or people
responsible pay for this.

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It’s been reported that this
particular house that Blake was

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watching is well known as being
a bit of a drug house.

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People coming and going at all
hours of the night.

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So it’s easy to assume that this
is some sort of a drug related

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shooting, maybe gang related or
something along those lines.

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But this doesn’t add up.

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Based on my conversations with
Blake’s family and friends,

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Blake was not a drug dealer.

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He was not into heavy drugs.

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He was a member of the marching

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band at high school in the in

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the college, he was a state

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bowling champion on the academic

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team.

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He participated in the Science
Olympiad.

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He was active in his fraternity,
the Sigma Nu fraternity.

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He participated in mission trips
and youth groups.

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He was active in the Kentucky
YMCA Youth Association.

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He wasn’t the type of person who

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would be caught up in some sort

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of a drug, drug shooting, um,

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situation.

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As a matter of fact, during his

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junior year in high school,

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Blake went on a mission trip to

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Arizona.

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And during that trip, he kept a
journal.

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And on one of the entries, he
wrote may have fed four hundred

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and seventy three families, but
through those I fed my soul

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through the tasks I did, I
affirmed that my being here is

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reasonable, that I’m here to do
big things and change lives, not

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just others, but also my own.

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This young man obviously wanted

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to do good things and had a good

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heart.

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And this is one of the main

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reasons I picked this case to

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look into.

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Like I said, I don’t want to go
into the nuts and bolts of the

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particular case and all of the
details and the suspects.

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I do suggest checking out Lorden
Art’s YouTube video.

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John Lorden did a great job

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going into all of the details of

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the case.

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I’m not going to do any better
than he did.

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So I have a link to the video in
my show notes.

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So I suggest checking that out
if you want to know the details

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of the case.

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Kentucky State Police Trooper
Corey King recently released a

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YouTube video summarizing this
case and giving an update.

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And this is audio from that
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Every parent aspires to witness
their child’s milestones.

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But for the parents of Blake

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Cruz, that has all been taken

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away.

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You see, Blake was brutally

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murdered in cold blood while

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staying at a home in Henderson,

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Kentucky.

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Here’s the back story.

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Our agency responded to a
burglary in progress call in the

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five hundred block of Fairmont
Avenue in Henderson, Kentucky.

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When responding troopers
arrived, they noticed the front

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door open to the residence, but
inside was the body of twenty

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year old Blake Cruz.

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Blake had been shot multiple
times, yet no one else was

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located inside the residence.

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Eight of Blake’s so-called

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friends were charged with

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offences unrelated to his

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murder.

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However, it is widely speculated

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that this investigation is drug

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related.

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Our agency has received numerous
tips and our detectives have

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exhausted those tips and leads
to no avail.

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I am respectfully requesting of
you to help me not only bring

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the person or persons
responsible for Blake’s death to

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justice, but also the
satisfaction of providing

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closure to the Cruz family.

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And if that’s not enough, you

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may also be awarded up to

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fifteen thousand dollars cash

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for the information that led to

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the arrest and conviction of

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those persons responsible for

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his death.

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Hopefully someone steps up and
does the right thing and tells

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the police what they know.

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If they do know something, even
as minor as it may be, it may be

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that one little nugget that gets
this case solved.

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Donna Cruz, Blake’s mom, agreed

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to talk to me, which I very much

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appreciate.

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Donna, thanks for joining me on
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I’m very sorry for your loss.

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I appreciate you taking your

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time out of your day to talk to

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me.

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Now, one thing that stood out as
I was looking into your son’s

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case was the fact that Blake
didn’t seem to belong in this

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house he was in.

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He doesn’t seem like he was the

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type of person who would have

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been dragged into some sort of a

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drug deal gone bad or something

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like that.

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Can you tell us a little bit
about Blake and and what your

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thoughts are on that?

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Blake was never the type of
person that you would ever

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thought would have been involved
in a situation like this.

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Mhm.

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He was, you know, he was a
normal, normal, um, young adult

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and enjoyed going out with
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But he had such wide circles of

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friends because he was a

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musician and he was a college

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student and he was, you know,

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involved in a lot of different

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things when it comes to, you

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know, just activities in

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Like I like you have read

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before, you know, he did go on a

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mission trip.

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also was in jazz band and, uh,

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he was heavily recruited by his

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college to get their band

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started again because they,

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their band had, I don’t have the

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right term, but their band

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than music majors, I was told.

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And he was not a music major.

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charge of getting that

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percussion section going, which

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he did.

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And he did indoor drum line,
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where he played these tenors.

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And he, he was in marching band
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play every style of music.

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I watched his audition and I was

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just flabbergasted about his

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talent.

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I had no idea he had so much
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and moved from one style of
music to the next to the next,

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and do about fifteen different
styles of drums.

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And then then he played in some
little hometown rock bands and

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performed at the Kentucky Farm
Bureau, uh, thing.

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Some of his best friends were a
governor’s scholars.

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Mhm.

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Right.

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Nothing that we ever will do
will bring back my son or

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restore our life to its, you
know, former condition.

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It just isn’t going to happen.

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But it would be good to know the
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And for someone to actually be

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held responsible for their

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actions so that we can at least

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close that chapter of our life

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and finish living the rest of

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ours.

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And then my beliefs happen to

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tell me that I’m going to see my

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son one day, and then I’m going

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to heaven and I’m going to be

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with him.

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So I know it’s not happening
here on earth.

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It’s just I just think that it’s
necessary for us to finish

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living our lives to know and
have someone held responsible.

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An innocent life was taken, and
someone out there is still

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walking around having done that.

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Oh, absolutely.

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And I’m honestly surprised that

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there haven’t been any arrests

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directly related to Blake’s

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murder.

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Initially, there were arrests of

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some of those people who were

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initially in the house, but none

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of them were charged with his

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murder.

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They were charged with failure

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to report a death, and some

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others received some drug

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charges.

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But nothing.

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Nothing about the death
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Now, Donna, I know you’re you’ve

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got your daughter, Amanda

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Miller, Blake’s sister, next to

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you.

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I wanted to give her an
opportunity to chime in if she

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had anything to to say about the
investigation or about Blake.

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Anything she’d like to.

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She’s going to talk here in a
second.

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She’s a struggling.

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I’m trying to gather my
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Um, I understand, I guess our
our main questions or my main

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question would be, um, with the
involvement of the KSP in this

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case, um and only the KSP in
this, in this case which has

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been apparent from jump.

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Why is the city police not able
to help solve this case?

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I understand it’s not within the

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city limits sign, but if they

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know their citizens best, then

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why wouldn’t they be of

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assistance?

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Or maybe they’ve not been asked
or I don’t know.

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That is a big question for me.

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We can’t understand why there’s
three police agencies here in

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this in this town alone, the
the, the sheriff, the state

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police and the city police.

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And then you have other
agencies.

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Oh, also with that, why can’t

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everybody work together and

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actually get a resolution to

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this and, and figure out what

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actually happened to, to our

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son?

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You know, that’s one thing

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that’s just bothered us so

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badly.

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I, I can’t even imagine the
frustration that you all must be

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feeling, thinking maybe they’re
not doing one hundred percent of

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what they could be.

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How often are you talking to the
investigators?

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Um, are you talking to them
regularly?

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Yeah.

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Well, for the longest time I

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would always contact the state

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police and like I said, weekly

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and monthly.

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And now I think I’m down to, uh,

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monthly and every other monthly

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because they never have anything

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to share.

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Um, so, but early, very early

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on, I asked for coordination and

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it’s essentially a political

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thing.

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Uh, you wouldn’t believe all of

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the things that I have heard

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about this, uh, situation, you

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know, and I know this isn’t the

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direction that you want to take

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with your podcast, but it’s

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overwhelming when you have

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something, um, that’s happened

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like this and then it just gets

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bigger and bigger and bigger and

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it turns into, well, this is a

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political matter and this is a

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matter.

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We don’t have enough manpower
and this is a matter of, you

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know, well, in the case has
changed hands so many times.

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Yeah.

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There’s been a lot of different
Detectives assigned, which can

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be good and or bad.

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Mhm.

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Uh, in a couple of ways, but,
um, you know, um, all we want to

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know is the very basic who’s
responsible for this and can you

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have them prosecuted?

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No, definitely.

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We’ve just lost the most
precious and dear thing to us,

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and we’re just expected to just
accept anything that we get.

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And, and we are just having a
terrible time doing that.

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Um, and hearing people talk to
us about all the issues that

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prevent them from solving the
case and, and making that into a

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big political or pissing match
between police agencies.

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Now, do you think there’s a

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particular reason they’re not

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coordinating or maybe not moving

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along as quickly as you’d like

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them to?

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Is there something, like you
said, political going on here.

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I don’t think it’s for a
particular reason, but I do

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think the Henderson police could
probably be very instrumental in

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in getting some of these things
solved, I really do.

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Um, this happened barely outside
the city limits.

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Like I’m not even a mile outside
of the city limits.

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Right?

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Yes.

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Well, anyway, we have I have

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contacts inside the police that,

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you know, I talked to you very

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early on and they they did not

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sound like they were actively

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working this case in any kind of

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way.

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So it led me to believe that,

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no, this is not being, you know,

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worked together.

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This is not any kind of
coordination whatsoever.

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And I asked for coordination

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very early on specifically, you

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know, do you know if anyone else

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has reached out to those

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individuals who were arrested in

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twenty fifteen, but not charged

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with Blake’s death to see if

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they would provide any

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statements We would love to see

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that happen because the media

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declined.

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Actually, just just to be
upfront with that.

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And, and the one person that
declined to do that was a

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younger reporter who said that
she was fearful of doing that.

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Of course, I’m not a suggesting

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that someone try to have face to

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face.

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I mean, phone calls and stuff

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can happen, you know, but they

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didn’t feel comfortable doing

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that themselves.

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I don’t think they were
forbidden.

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I just know it wasn’t going to

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happen through that particular

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reporter.

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But, you know, um, I feel like
we have cried so much.

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We’ve cried out, we’ve cried,
our insides are just, you know,

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destroyed with just all of the
grief that comes along with

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something like this.

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And, um, no, Blake would never
want us to be this way.

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Um, no child would ever want
their parent to be this way.

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And, um, you know, like I said,

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I, I changed part of me died

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with Blake.

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My daughter is pointed out that
she feels like she’s lost a part

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of her mother.

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And we’ve had issues spring up
in our family that have created

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problems, because this is just
one of the most horrific things

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to ever deal with.

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I can’t even imagine.

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I’m wondering, does this affect

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your ability to go out in the

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public, like to go to Walmart or

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whatever?

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Are you looking around, maybe
subconsciously looking around

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and wondering, is that the
person who did it?

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Were they involved or are they
not talking?

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Does that affect your ability to
function in everyday life?

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00:18:43.910 –> 00:18:45.869
Speaker:
Or have you moved past that

444
00:18:45.869 –> 00:18:47.309
Speaker:
phase, or were you ever in that

445
00:18:47.309 –> 00:18:47.589
Speaker:
phase?

446
00:18:47.589 –> 00:18:51.269
Speaker:
I’m just kind of curious about
how that not knowing how that

447
00:18:51.269 –> 00:18:53.069
Speaker:
affects your daily life.

448
00:18:54.069 –> 00:18:55.549
Speaker:
Uh, I don’t know, maybe.

449
00:18:55.549 –> 00:19:00.869
Speaker:
I mean, I in the first couple of
years, all I could think about

450
00:19:00.869 –> 00:19:03.269
Speaker:
is how did this happen?

451
00:19:03.269 –> 00:19:04.430
Speaker:
Why did this happen?

452
00:19:04.430 –> 00:19:06.029
Speaker:
How could I have stopped it?

453
00:19:06.029 –> 00:19:08.789
Speaker:
There’s a tremendous pain and

454
00:19:08.789 –> 00:19:11.990
Speaker:
guilt and, and every emotion

455
00:19:11.990 –> 00:19:15.509
Speaker:
that you can imagine, you’re

456
00:19:15.509 –> 00:19:17.109
Speaker:
never the same person ever

457
00:19:17.109 –> 00:19:18.029
Speaker:
again.

458
00:19:18.029 –> 00:19:18.869
Speaker:
Ever.

459
00:19:20.230 –> 00:19:24.269
Speaker:
When I when my son died, a part
of me died with him.

460
00:19:25.990 –> 00:19:28.670
Speaker:
I can’t even fathom what that
loss must be like.

461
00:19:28.670 –> 00:19:33.269
Speaker:
It’s the worst nightmare of any
parent to have to go through.

462
00:19:35.230 –> 00:19:38.029
Speaker:
I was wondering, do either of
you have a funny story you’d

463
00:19:38.029 –> 00:19:40.230
Speaker:
like to share about Blake?

464
00:19:41.509 –> 00:19:42.869
Speaker:
Well, there’s a few.

465
00:19:42.869 –> 00:19:46.430
Speaker:
I have two that stick out in my
mind, and my mom loves the first

466
00:19:46.430 –> 00:19:50.430
Speaker:
one, and it is the first one
whenever, um, because he was in

467
00:19:50.430 –> 00:19:53.349
Speaker:
band and they were having to do
these band pictures, as you

468
00:19:53.349 –> 00:19:56.789
Speaker:
know, you, you have your
composite pictures that hang on

469
00:19:56.789 –> 00:19:58.670
Speaker:
the wall in the school.

470
00:19:58.670 –> 00:20:01.589
Speaker:
Um, and he and his friends

471
00:20:01.589 –> 00:20:03.250
Speaker:
decided that they were going to

472
00:20:03.250 –> 00:20:05.549
Speaker:
make horrible faces in them

473
00:20:05.549 –> 00:20:06.630
Speaker:
basically.

474
00:20:06.630 –> 00:20:10.829
Speaker:
Um, and everybody, uh, changed
at a time.

475
00:20:10.829 –> 00:20:11.029
Speaker:
Yes.

476
00:20:11.029 –> 00:20:13.869
Speaker:
And everybody took it out except
for Blake.

477
00:20:13.869 –> 00:20:14.309
Speaker:
And then.

478
00:20:14.309 –> 00:20:16.309
Speaker:
So imagine my mom’s horror as

479
00:20:16.309 –> 00:20:17.390
Speaker:
she’s coming to the school to

480
00:20:17.390 –> 00:20:18.950
Speaker:
look at pictures and this is all

481
00:20:18.950 –> 00:20:20.069
Speaker:
she’s seeing.

482
00:20:21.390 –> 00:20:25.710
Speaker:
And so that one is just it just
complete.

483
00:20:25.710 –> 00:20:26.269
Speaker:
Blake.

484
00:20:26.269 –> 00:20:27.549
Speaker:
Uh, that is absolutely.

485
00:20:27.549 –> 00:20:28.069
Speaker:
Blake.

486
00:20:28.069 –> 00:20:33.410
Speaker:
Um, he was just, he, uh, he
marched to the tune of his own

487
00:20:33.410 –> 00:20:35.869
Speaker:
drum, that’s for sure.

488
00:20:35.869 –> 00:20:40.400
Speaker:
And as cliche as that sounds, he
was his own man.

489
00:20:40.400 –> 00:20:43.119
Speaker:
I I’m going to just have to fill
in something here.

490
00:20:43.119 –> 00:20:43.480
Speaker:
Go ahead.

491
00:20:43.480 –> 00:20:47.000
Speaker:
He was literally his own man

492
00:20:47.000 –> 00:20:51.279
Speaker:
when he was about eighteen or

493
00:20:51.279 –> 00:20:53.240
Speaker:
nineteen.

494
00:20:53.240 –> 00:20:57.359
Speaker:
I used to love to shop and still
love to shop at the goodwill.

495
00:20:57.359 –> 00:20:59.880
Speaker:
Well, he decided he liked
goodwill too.

496
00:20:59.880 –> 00:21:02.279
Speaker:
He liked vintage things.

497
00:21:02.279 –> 00:21:05.200
Speaker:
So one day he comes home from
the goodwill, and I didn’t know

498
00:21:05.200 –> 00:21:07.000
Speaker:
he was going there.

499
00:21:07.000 –> 00:21:11.400
Speaker:
And he has a pair of shoes that
he called his chukkas.

500
00:21:11.400 –> 00:21:14.200
Speaker:
I don’t even know what a chukka
is, except for it was like a

501
00:21:14.200 –> 00:21:16.400
Speaker:
leather boot that laced up.

502
00:21:16.400 –> 00:21:17.880
Speaker:
And he just loved them.

503
00:21:17.880 –> 00:21:22.039
Speaker:
And he came home and he was
slapping the inside of his hand

504
00:21:22.039 –> 00:21:25.720
Speaker:
with the backside of his other
hand, making that.

505
00:21:25.720 –> 00:21:28.799
Speaker:
And he says, these were for
bones.

506
00:21:30.079 –> 00:21:31.799
Speaker:
I said, oh my gosh.

507
00:21:31.799 –> 00:21:35.359
Speaker:
And he wore them and wore them
and wore them.

508
00:21:35.359 –> 00:21:41.450
Speaker:
And he actually was wearing
those, I believe the night his

509
00:21:41.450 –> 00:21:43.769
Speaker:
life was taken.

510
00:21:43.769 –> 00:21:45.289
Speaker:
Um, but he loved those.

511
00:21:45.289 –> 00:21:46.849
Speaker:
And I think we had to.

512
00:21:46.849 –> 00:21:47.890
Speaker:
He wore them so much.

513
00:21:47.890 –> 00:21:49.289
Speaker:
We may have had to get the tow

514
00:21:49.289 –> 00:21:51.329
Speaker:
repaired because it came

515
00:21:51.329 –> 00:21:54.170
Speaker:
unglued, but they were very

516
00:21:54.170 –> 00:21:55.410
Speaker:
nicely made.

517
00:21:55.410 –> 00:21:57.609
Speaker:
And then once he got a pair of

518
00:21:57.609 –> 00:22:01.509
Speaker:
the most hideous, uh, crocodile

519
00:22:01.509 –> 00:22:05.329
Speaker:
leather looking grey, um,

520
00:22:05.329 –> 00:22:08.309
Speaker:
Italian shoes, and he had large

521
00:22:08.309 –> 00:22:11.089
Speaker:
feet and he thought they were

522
00:22:11.089 –> 00:22:12.890
Speaker:
just great.

523
00:22:13.890 –> 00:22:16.009
Speaker:
I still have those.

524
00:22:16.009 –> 00:22:19.730
Speaker:
And he thought he only wore them
a few times, but he said he

525
00:22:19.730 –> 00:22:24.130
Speaker:
would absolutely wear those and
I didn’t think he would, but he

526
00:22:24.130 –> 00:22:25.490
Speaker:
did wear them a couple of times.

527
00:22:25.490 –> 00:22:27.849
Speaker:
They were hideous.

528
00:22:27.849 –> 00:22:31.769
Speaker:
They looked something like from
what, the fifties maybe.

529
00:22:31.769 –> 00:22:33.609
Speaker:
And they were terrible.

530
00:22:33.609 –> 00:22:34.930
Speaker:
And then he’d go shopping out of

531
00:22:34.930 –> 00:22:37.930
Speaker:
his grandfather’s closet and

532
00:22:37.930 –> 00:22:39.539
Speaker:
he’d grab all of his sweaters

533
00:22:39.539 –> 00:22:41.779
Speaker:
with the elbow pads on them and

534
00:22:41.779 –> 00:22:44.019
Speaker:
the big buttons, you know, the

535
00:22:44.019 –> 00:22:46.180
Speaker:
kind that have the look like

536
00:22:46.180 –> 00:22:47.259
Speaker:
leather buttons.

537
00:22:47.259 –> 00:22:48.500
Speaker:
Mhm.

538
00:22:48.500 –> 00:22:50.380
Speaker:
Oh, he loved those.

539
00:22:50.380 –> 00:22:53.900
Speaker:
He loved all that vintage
looking stuff.

540
00:22:53.900 –> 00:22:56.420
Speaker:
And he just wasn’t a things
person.

541
00:22:56.420 –> 00:22:58.640
Speaker:
He did like certain types of

542
00:22:58.640 –> 00:23:01.140
Speaker:
stuff, but he didn’t mind to

543
00:23:01.140 –> 00:23:02.500
Speaker:
stand out.

544
00:23:02.500 –> 00:23:06.099
Speaker:
He had red hair, and he chose
his own haircut.

545
00:23:06.099 –> 00:23:08.259
Speaker:
And everybody else followed him.

546
00:23:09.859 –> 00:23:11.299
Speaker:
And he just.

547
00:23:11.299 –> 00:23:14.059
Speaker:
He just was his own man.

548
00:23:14.059 –> 00:23:15.980
Speaker:
He definitely sounds like it.

549
00:23:15.980 –> 00:23:18.420
Speaker:
And it sounds like he also got

550
00:23:18.420 –> 00:23:20.180
Speaker:
along with a wide variety of

551
00:23:20.180 –> 00:23:20.900
Speaker:
people.

552
00:23:20.900 –> 00:23:22.420
Speaker:
He made friends with all kinds

553
00:23:22.420 –> 00:23:23.579
Speaker:
of people in the marching band

554
00:23:23.579 –> 00:23:24.660
Speaker:
and all the different groups he

555
00:23:24.660 –> 00:23:25.740
Speaker:
was in.

556
00:23:25.740 –> 00:23:28.660
Speaker:
So it sounds like he made all
kinds of friends.

557
00:23:28.660 –> 00:23:30.140
Speaker:
Yes he did.

558
00:23:30.140 –> 00:23:31.259
Speaker:
And one time when he was

559
00:23:31.259 –> 00:23:33.700
Speaker:
carrying the fifth bass for the

560
00:23:33.700 –> 00:23:36.220
Speaker:
marching band, he fell over a

561
00:23:36.220 –> 00:23:38.309
Speaker:
kid Backwards, who was in a

562
00:23:38.309 –> 00:23:40.450
Speaker:
wheelchair, and the two of them

563
00:23:40.450 –> 00:23:42.150
Speaker:
were laughing until they about

564
00:23:42.150 –> 00:23:43.789
Speaker:
peed on themselves on the

565
00:23:43.789 –> 00:23:44.509
Speaker:
ground.

566
00:23:44.509 –> 00:23:48.990
Speaker:
They thought it was hilarious,
but Blake loved everybody.

567
00:23:48.990 –> 00:23:52.789
Speaker:
He didn’t look at people and
noticed differences.

568
00:23:52.789 –> 00:23:55.710
Speaker:
I mean, of course he noticed the
kid was in a wheelchair, but the

569
00:23:55.710 –> 00:23:57.509
Speaker:
kid was in the band.

570
00:23:57.509 –> 00:24:01.549
Speaker:
And, you know, he just loved
everybody.

571
00:24:01.549 –> 00:24:07.430
Speaker:
He didn’t he didn’t, um, he
didn’t feel bad about people.

572
00:24:07.430 –> 00:24:09.230
Speaker:
He didn’t have.

573
00:24:09.230 –> 00:24:12.150
Speaker:
He thought everybody was
basically a good person.

574
00:24:13.630 –> 00:24:16.750
Speaker:
He, he could have been an old
soul, for all I know.

575
00:24:16.750 –> 00:24:23.309
Speaker:
We have millions of good stories
and good memories of him, and I

576
00:24:23.309 –> 00:24:25.630
Speaker:
just wish that people would.

577
00:24:25.630 –> 00:24:28.230
Speaker:
I don’t know, I guess I guess I

578
00:24:28.230 –> 00:24:30.190
Speaker:
feel like I mean, this is my

579
00:24:30.190 –> 00:24:31.230
Speaker:
son, obviously.

580
00:24:31.230 –> 00:24:35.309
Speaker:
I think he’s the most important
thing on the planet practically.

581
00:24:35.309 –> 00:24:37.150
Speaker:
I have two living children that

582
00:24:37.150 –> 00:24:39.509
Speaker:
are, you know, they are equally

583
00:24:39.509 –> 00:24:40.269
Speaker:
as important.

584
00:24:40.269 –> 00:24:43.509
Speaker:
And all my grandchildren, I have
eight grandchildren.

585
00:24:43.509 –> 00:24:48.829
Speaker:
So every one of them are so
special and so important to me.

586
00:24:48.829 –> 00:24:50.470
Speaker:
But obviously, I think Blake

587
00:24:50.470 –> 00:24:53.349
Speaker:
was, you know, just he was just

588
00:24:53.349 –> 00:24:53.710
Speaker:
super.

589
00:24:53.710 –> 00:24:56.069
Speaker:
And I maybe I should think
everybody else should feel like

590
00:24:56.069 –> 00:24:58.029
Speaker:
he was that way too.

591
00:24:58.029 –> 00:25:00.750
Speaker:
And I wish they would speak his
name.

592
00:25:00.750 –> 00:25:03.890
Speaker:
I think they might feel like
they may hurt me if they speak,

593
00:25:03.890 –> 00:25:05.269
Speaker:
speak his name.

594
00:25:05.269 –> 00:25:09.910
Speaker:
But it brings me tremendous joy
to hear them tell me stories or

595
00:25:09.910 –> 00:25:16.069
Speaker:
to send me a picture I’ve never
seen, or ask me for a bracelet.

596
00:25:16.069 –> 00:25:22.990
Speaker:
You know, um, just any of those
things just bring me joy.

597
00:25:24.230 –> 00:25:28.309
Speaker:
And my hope is that the more
people who hear this podcast

598
00:25:28.309 –> 00:25:33.190
Speaker:
will maybe talk about Blake’s
story, and maybe it’ll trigger

599
00:25:33.190 –> 00:25:37.839
Speaker:
someone who knows something to
come forward and and provide

600
00:25:37.839 –> 00:25:40.279
Speaker:
that piece of information that
breaks the case.

601
00:25:40.279 –> 00:25:43.920
Speaker:
So, and, um, people need to
realize what a loss to the

602
00:25:43.920 –> 00:25:46.720
Speaker:
community this was not only to
your family and to his friends,

603
00:25:46.720 –> 00:25:47.960
Speaker:
but to the community.

604
00:25:47.960 –> 00:25:52.160
Speaker:
I really do think it was a loss
to the community, I really do.

605
00:25:52.160 –> 00:25:54.920
Speaker:
I think he would have gone on to
do something special.

606
00:25:54.920 –> 00:25:56.720
Speaker:
What I’m not sure.

607
00:25:56.720 –> 00:26:01.279
Speaker:
I really feel like he was a
special person with, you know, I

608
00:26:01.279 –> 00:26:04.599
Speaker:
just think he would have been
very successful and helpful.

609
00:26:04.599 –> 00:26:09.720
Speaker:
And I don’t know, I mean, I
sense that he might even, you

610
00:26:09.720 –> 00:26:14.359
Speaker:
know, get, get near, uh, helping
other people, like in a social

611
00:26:14.359 –> 00:26:18.359
Speaker:
work kind of fashion, not being
a social worker, but because I

612
00:26:18.359 –> 00:26:20.160
Speaker:
didn’t really encourage that.

613
00:26:20.160 –> 00:26:26.039
Speaker:
It’s, it’s a hard way to make a
living, actually, but, you know,

614
00:26:26.039 –> 00:26:27.759
Speaker:
it is, it is.

615
00:26:27.759 –> 00:26:31.680
Speaker:
But there’s great ways in social
work to help other people.

616
00:26:31.680 –> 00:26:37.049
Speaker:
It doesn’t have to be always Sad
stuff or scary stuff or, you

617
00:26:37.049 –> 00:26:42.410
Speaker:
know, and and he just really
cared about other people.

618
00:26:42.410 –> 00:26:42.769
Speaker:
Mhm.

619
00:26:42.769 –> 00:26:45.890
Speaker:
Um, you know, I could see him

620
00:26:45.890 –> 00:26:47.890
Speaker:
helping someone who was less

621
00:26:47.890 –> 00:26:49.569
Speaker:
fortunate, but I could also see

622
00:26:49.569 –> 00:26:52.589
Speaker:
him helping, you know, um,

623
00:26:52.589 –> 00:26:56.730
Speaker:
people that, um, ah, you know,

624
00:26:56.730 –> 00:27:00.390
Speaker:
like maybe autistic or, um,

625
00:27:00.390 –> 00:27:02.410
Speaker:
intellectually disabled or

626
00:27:02.410 –> 00:27:03.410
Speaker:
whatever.

627
00:27:03.410 –> 00:27:06.410
Speaker:
Um, so I, I don’t know, I just

628
00:27:06.410 –> 00:27:08.890
Speaker:
think he had, he had his gifts

629
00:27:08.890 –> 00:27:10.650
Speaker:
for sure.

630
00:27:10.650 –> 00:27:12.109
Speaker:
And I think that he was well

631
00:27:12.109 –> 00:27:14.230
Speaker:
equipped with gifts and someone

632
00:27:14.230 –> 00:27:18.890
Speaker:
just robbed us completely robbed

633
00:27:18.890 –> 00:27:19.690
Speaker:
us.

634
00:27:19.690 –> 00:27:23.049
Speaker:
Um, I know that I said before, I

635
00:27:23.049 –> 00:27:24.170
Speaker:
wish they would have come and

636
00:27:24.170 –> 00:27:25.009
Speaker:
shot me.

637
00:27:26.890 –> 00:27:28.490
Speaker:
I would have given him anything.

638
00:27:30.569 –> 00:27:31.769
Speaker:
Someone out there knows

639
00:27:31.769 –> 00:27:34.579
Speaker:
something, And there, for

640
00:27:34.579 –> 00:27:36.279
Speaker:
whatever reason, not willing to

641
00:27:36.279 –> 00:27:37.619
Speaker:
come forward with that

642
00:27:37.619 –> 00:27:39.460
Speaker:
information.

643
00:27:39.460 –> 00:27:42.119
Speaker:
I hope that someone hears this

644
00:27:42.119 –> 00:27:43.619
Speaker:
and changes their mind, and

645
00:27:43.619 –> 00:27:45.660
Speaker:
maybe this puts them over the

646
00:27:45.660 –> 00:27:48.380
Speaker:
edge as far as what they needed

647
00:27:48.380 –> 00:27:51.000
Speaker:
to hear to, to come forward and

648
00:27:51.000 –> 00:27:52.220
Speaker:
say what they need to say to the

649
00:27:52.220 –> 00:27:53.819
Speaker:
police.

650
00:27:53.819 –> 00:27:55.460
Speaker:
Right.

651
00:27:55.460 –> 00:27:59.220
Speaker:
And I just, you know, as these
people grow older and they

652
00:27:59.220 –> 00:28:05.339
Speaker:
become parents, maybe it will
touch their heart as their child

653
00:28:05.339 –> 00:28:10.200
Speaker:
gets older, if they can ever
imagine what it would be like to

654
00:28:10.200 –> 00:28:13.420
Speaker:
lose their child this way.

655
00:28:13.420 –> 00:28:16.819
Speaker:
I don’t want to leave this earth
without knowing.

656
00:28:17.940 –> 00:28:24.420
Speaker:
I guess I worry about that, but,
um, you know, the hard thing

657
00:28:24.420 –> 00:28:28.980
Speaker:
here is having these questions
and presenting these questions

658
00:28:28.980 –> 00:28:33.299
Speaker:
to people who might be able to
shed light on them, and first

659
00:28:33.299 –> 00:28:35.660
Speaker:
thing is just saying them out
loud in the first place.

660
00:28:35.660 –> 00:28:38.180
Speaker:
And you’ve helped us do that.

661
00:28:38.180 –> 00:28:39.500
Speaker:
Thank you.

662
00:28:39.500 –> 00:28:41.779
Speaker:
And I have reached out to all of

663
00:28:41.779 –> 00:28:43.059
Speaker:
the individuals who were

664
00:28:43.059 –> 00:28:45.539
Speaker:
arrested in twenty fifteen, um,

665
00:28:45.539 –> 00:28:47.460
Speaker:
to see if they would like to say

666
00:28:47.460 –> 00:28:48.740
Speaker:
anything to maybe clear their

667
00:28:48.740 –> 00:28:51.940
Speaker:
name or to offer explanations

668
00:28:51.940 –> 00:28:53.900
Speaker:
of, uh, maybe how that night

669
00:28:53.900 –> 00:28:54.339
Speaker:
played out.

670
00:28:54.339 –> 00:28:55.980
Speaker:
Exactly.

671
00:28:55.980 –> 00:28:58.019
Speaker:
And I’ve heard back from one of
them.

672
00:28:58.019 –> 00:29:00.420
Speaker:
So I’m going to be talking to
that person shortly.

673
00:29:00.420 –> 00:29:02.500
Speaker:
So that should be interesting.

674
00:29:02.500 –> 00:29:08.019
Speaker:
I mean, anything you’re willing
to do, our family just

675
00:29:08.019 –> 00:29:10.339
Speaker:
appreciate so much.

676
00:29:10.339 –> 00:29:13.400
Speaker:
Well, it’s it’s not that much
and it’s the least I can do to

677
00:29:13.400 –> 00:29:16.859
Speaker:
maybe help bring some closure
and whatever I can.

678
00:29:16.859 –> 00:29:21.259
Speaker:
It’s not it’s definitely not
little to us.

679
00:29:22.259 –> 00:29:22.660
Speaker:
Mhm.

680
00:29:22.660 –> 00:29:24.680
Speaker:
Just you calling us and asking

681
00:29:24.680 –> 00:29:27.119
Speaker:
us to talk to you means a lot to

682
00:29:27.119 –> 00:29:28.220
Speaker:
us.

683
00:29:28.220 –> 00:29:32.390
Speaker:
So anything you do is huge to
us.

684
00:29:32.390 –> 00:29:32.829
Speaker:
Thank you.

685
00:29:32.829 –> 00:29:33.869
Speaker:
And I want to thank you and

686
00:29:33.869 –> 00:29:35.589
Speaker:
Amanda for joining me on today’s

687
00:29:35.589 –> 00:29:35.990
Speaker:
show.

688
00:29:35.990 –> 00:29:38.789
Speaker:
I very much appreciate that.

689
00:29:38.789 –> 00:29:40.349
Speaker:
I really can’t thank you enough

690
00:29:40.349 –> 00:29:42.309
Speaker:
for wanting to, you know, help

691
00:29:42.309 –> 00:29:43.789
Speaker:
us out.

692
00:29:43.789 –> 00:29:44.829
Speaker:
You’re very welcome.

693
00:29:44.829 –> 00:29:48.809
Speaker:
And I will pass any information
I receive along if I talk to

694
00:29:48.809 –> 00:29:51.589
Speaker:
somebody or have anything I
think you may be interested in,

695
00:29:51.589 –> 00:29:53.269
Speaker:
I’ll pass it along to you.

696
00:29:53.269 –> 00:29:54.710
Speaker:
Wonderful, wonderful.

697
00:29:54.710 –> 00:29:58.750
Speaker:
I thank you so much for all your
all your time and your insights.

698
00:30:00.230 –> 00:30:01.650
Speaker:
I also had the opportunity to

699
00:30:01.650 –> 00:30:03.549
Speaker:
speak with Brandon Beanie and

700
00:30:03.549 –> 00:30:05.390
Speaker:
Kyle Putman, two of Blake’s

701
00:30:05.390 –> 00:30:08.269
Speaker:
really good friends, Brandon and

702
00:30:08.269 –> 00:30:08.549
Speaker:
Kyle.

703
00:30:08.549 –> 00:30:09.950
Speaker:
Thank you for joining me.

704
00:30:09.950 –> 00:30:10.390
Speaker:
Yeah, yeah.

705
00:30:10.390 –> 00:30:11.109
Speaker:
No problem.

706
00:30:11.109 –> 00:30:13.349
Speaker:
Now, how did you guys come to
know Blake?

707
00:30:14.430 –> 00:30:18.750
Speaker:
Uh, well, I personally, I mean,
I met him just through school.

708
00:30:18.750 –> 00:30:20.470
Speaker:
I met him about freshman year of

709
00:30:20.470 –> 00:30:23.950
Speaker:
high school and just mutual

710
00:30:23.950 –> 00:30:24.390
Speaker:
friends.

711
00:30:24.390 –> 00:30:25.470
Speaker:
We stayed at the same lunch

712
00:30:25.470 –> 00:30:26.910
Speaker:
table, and that’s how we got

713
00:30:26.910 –> 00:30:28.390
Speaker:
close.

714
00:30:28.390 –> 00:30:28.710
Speaker:
Yeah.

715
00:30:28.710 –> 00:30:30.599
Speaker:
So this is Brandon, by the way.

716
00:30:30.599 –> 00:30:34.160
Speaker:
But, uh, we actually, we were in
band together.

717
00:30:34.160 –> 00:30:37.740
Speaker:
I met him in probably seventh
grade in middle school, and we

718
00:30:37.740 –> 00:30:42.079
Speaker:
were both in, uh, percussion and
we actually, uh, went through

719
00:30:42.079 –> 00:30:44.880
Speaker:
band together all throughout
high school and, uh, marching

720
00:30:44.880 –> 00:30:46.640
Speaker:
band and all that stuff.

721
00:30:46.640 –> 00:30:47.519
Speaker:
He was such a good guy.

722
00:30:47.519 –> 00:30:51.000
Speaker:
And like I said, we, we all hung
out with, uh, Jonah Poly.

723
00:30:51.000 –> 00:30:52.319
Speaker:
He was a really good guy.

724
00:30:52.319 –> 00:30:54.920
Speaker:
And, uh, he was a part of our

725
00:30:54.920 –> 00:30:57.099
Speaker:
friend group with Kyle and, uh,

726
00:30:57.099 –> 00:30:58.119
Speaker:
and Chris.

727
00:30:59.759 –> 00:31:00.359
Speaker:
Yeah.

728
00:31:00.359 –> 00:31:03.779
Speaker:
Um, that’s a, that’s another one
that we need to touch on too, is

729
00:31:03.779 –> 00:31:05.000
Speaker:
our friend Jonah Poly.

730
00:31:05.000 –> 00:31:06.880
Speaker:
Him and Blake were very close.

731
00:31:06.880 –> 00:31:08.880
Speaker:
They separated a little bit.

732
00:31:08.880 –> 00:31:11.559
Speaker:
Like just life happened after
high school.

733
00:31:11.559 –> 00:31:13.640
Speaker:
Jonah went off to college and

734
00:31:13.640 –> 00:31:15.000
Speaker:
started pursuing his career and

735
00:31:15.000 –> 00:31:16.799
Speaker:
everything.

736
00:31:16.799 –> 00:31:21.240
Speaker:
But yeah, pretty much we all met
through going to the same school

737
00:31:21.240 –> 00:31:22.279
Speaker:
growing up in Henderson.

738
00:31:22.279 –> 00:31:24.720
Speaker:
I mean, I mean, he, he sounds

739
00:31:24.720 –> 00:31:26.119
Speaker:
like he was in like a wide

740
00:31:26.119 –> 00:31:27.500
Speaker:
variety of, you know,

741
00:31:27.500 –> 00:31:28.799
Speaker:
organizations like a state

742
00:31:28.799 –> 00:31:29.970
Speaker:
bowling champion.

743
00:31:29.970 –> 00:31:33.890
Speaker:
And like, uh, he just had a wide
net of friends and people he was

744
00:31:33.890 –> 00:31:34.369
Speaker:
hanging out with.

745
00:31:34.369 –> 00:31:35.809
Speaker:
That’s why some people were kind
of shocked.

746
00:31:35.809 –> 00:31:37.769
Speaker:
He was kind of hanging out with

747
00:31:37.769 –> 00:31:39.029
Speaker:
the people he might have been on

748
00:31:39.029 –> 00:31:41.410
Speaker:
that last night when he, you

749
00:31:41.410 –> 00:31:42.369
Speaker:
know, he was kind of friends

750
00:31:42.369 –> 00:31:43.849
Speaker:
with people like you guys and

751
00:31:43.849 –> 00:31:45.829
Speaker:
then, you know, hanging out with

752
00:31:45.829 –> 00:31:47.930
Speaker:
maybe a little more shady groups

753
00:31:47.930 –> 00:31:48.650
Speaker:
of people.

754
00:31:48.650 –> 00:31:54.450
Speaker:
So. Well, it’s not even that it
was the shock factor of what

755
00:31:54.450 –> 00:31:59.410
Speaker:
happened was, how could somebody
have done this to Blake?

756
00:31:59.410 –> 00:32:02.809
Speaker:
Because the man had literally no
enemies whatsoever.

757
00:32:02.809 –> 00:32:04.650
Speaker:
Yeah, not at all.

758
00:32:04.650 –> 00:32:07.890
Speaker:
I mean, after knowing him for as
long as we did, we would have

759
00:32:07.890 –> 00:32:10.930
Speaker:
picked up on any slight enemy
that he would have had.

760
00:32:10.930 –> 00:32:13.769
Speaker:
And there wasn’t one whatsoever.

761
00:32:13.769 –> 00:32:14.130
Speaker:
Yeah.

762
00:32:14.130 –> 00:32:15.230
Speaker:
And from what everyone I’ve

763
00:32:15.230 –> 00:32:16.569
Speaker:
talked to, that’s pretty much

764
00:32:16.569 –> 00:32:18.730
Speaker:
the common theme is that he had

765
00:32:18.730 –> 00:32:20.089
Speaker:
no enemies and everybody loved

766
00:32:20.089 –> 00:32:20.369
Speaker:
him.

767
00:32:20.369 –> 00:32:23.089
Speaker:
And it couldn’t have been like a
targeted thing.

768
00:32:23.089 –> 00:32:24.769
Speaker:
He was, you know, do you guys

769
00:32:24.769 –> 00:32:26.009
Speaker:
think he was just literally in

770
00:32:26.009 –> 00:32:26.910
Speaker:
the wrong place at the wrong

771
00:32:26.910 –> 00:32:27.980
Speaker:
time?

772
00:32:27.980 –> 00:32:29.180
Speaker:
One hundred percent.

773
00:32:29.180 –> 00:32:30.500
Speaker:
That’s exactly what it was.

774
00:32:31.579 –> 00:32:33.019
Speaker:
That’s what we talked about.

775
00:32:33.019 –> 00:32:36.299
Speaker:
There’s no way that whoever
would have done that, there’s no

776
00:32:36.299 –> 00:32:38.900
Speaker:
way that they could have known
who Blake was.

777
00:32:38.900 –> 00:32:41.500
Speaker:
Because if they if they would
have known or recognized him

778
00:32:41.500 –> 00:32:44.519
Speaker:
whatsoever, they wouldn’t have
been able to do that because

779
00:32:44.519 –> 00:32:47.980
Speaker:
anybody that knew him knew what
kind of person he was.

780
00:32:47.980 –> 00:32:49.180
Speaker:
Right.

781
00:32:49.180 –> 00:32:51.700
Speaker:
Do you I mean, and the details

782
00:32:51.700 –> 00:32:53.059
Speaker:
of the case are pretty, you

783
00:32:53.059 –> 00:32:53.660
Speaker:
know, sketchy.

784
00:32:53.660 –> 00:32:56.700
Speaker:
There’s not a whole lot, but it
sounds like there were several

785
00:32:56.700 –> 00:33:01.619
Speaker:
people who walked over his body
and nobody called the police.

786
00:33:01.619 –> 00:33:04.460
Speaker:
And it just, uh, is there a

787
00:33:04.460 –> 00:33:07.220
Speaker:
thinking or, you know, do you

788
00:33:07.220 –> 00:33:08.579
Speaker:
think that maybe someone does

789
00:33:08.579 –> 00:33:10.740
Speaker:
know something, um, and just

790
00:33:10.740 –> 00:33:12.019
Speaker:
isn’t talking or maybe they’re

791
00:33:12.019 –> 00:33:13.779
Speaker:
afraid of retribution or, you

792
00:33:13.779 –> 00:33:19.019
Speaker:
know, honestly, I, I personally

793
00:33:19.019 –> 00:33:21.059
Speaker:
have no idea on that matter at

794
00:33:21.059 –> 00:33:21.579
Speaker:
all.

795
00:33:21.579 –> 00:33:25.299
Speaker:
I could give you the slightest
bit of, but I really don’t know.

796
00:33:25.299 –> 00:33:25.980
Speaker:
I wish we did.

797
00:33:25.980 –> 00:33:27.460
Speaker:
And beyond that, I mean, even

798
00:33:27.460 –> 00:33:29.859
Speaker:
though like some people might

799
00:33:29.859 –> 00:33:31.279
Speaker:
think they were shady or

800
00:33:31.279 –> 00:33:31.940
Speaker:
whatever.

801
00:33:31.940 –> 00:33:34.859
Speaker:
I we weren’t personally close
with many of those people

802
00:33:34.859 –> 00:33:38.660
Speaker:
whatsoever, but anybody that was
close to Blake, I couldn’t

803
00:33:38.660 –> 00:33:41.660
Speaker:
imagine walking in and seeing
him in that state.

804
00:33:41.660 –> 00:33:45.299
Speaker:
However, he was when they saw
him, that that shock factor

805
00:33:45.299 –> 00:33:49.140
Speaker:
alone is enough to traumatize
and scare somebody in general.

806
00:33:51.259 –> 00:33:54.220
Speaker:
Hey, do you guys have any
special stories that you’d like

807
00:33:54.220 –> 00:33:55.539
Speaker:
to share about Blake?

808
00:33:57.619 –> 00:33:59.180
Speaker:
He was just a really outgoing
guy.

809
00:33:59.180 –> 00:34:00.220
Speaker:
I don’t know if I really have

810
00:34:00.220 –> 00:34:01.519
Speaker:
anything specific other than

811
00:34:01.519 –> 00:34:02.579
Speaker:
being in band with him all the

812
00:34:02.579 –> 00:34:03.859
Speaker:
time.

813
00:34:03.859 –> 00:34:05.299
Speaker:
Uh, but, you know, he just he

814
00:34:05.299 –> 00:34:07.980
Speaker:
was always, like, the funniest

815
00:34:07.980 –> 00:34:08.460
Speaker:
guy around.

816
00:34:08.460 –> 00:34:10.219
Speaker:
You know, he would make you
laugh and make you smile no

817
00:34:10.219 –> 00:34:13.179
Speaker:
matter what, no matter who you
are, without even trying to.

818
00:34:13.179 –> 00:34:14.460
Speaker:
That’s what was so special.

819
00:34:14.460 –> 00:34:16.019
Speaker:
It was just him being himself.

820
00:34:16.019 –> 00:34:18.780
Speaker:
I would look forward to the, uh,
we had like marching band

821
00:34:18.780 –> 00:34:21.920
Speaker:
competitions and I would look
forward to it just based off of,

822
00:34:21.920 –> 00:34:24.380
Speaker:
uh, you know, being there with
Blake and everybody else.

823
00:34:24.380 –> 00:34:28.110
Speaker:
Like Blake was definitely one of
my favorite people.

824
00:34:28.110 –> 00:34:32.469
Speaker:
One, one particular, uh, memory
that sticks out for me, uh, for

825
00:34:32.469 –> 00:34:33.829
Speaker:
both of us to it.

826
00:34:33.829 –> 00:34:36.909
Speaker:
Uh, we all, we all three and

827
00:34:36.909 –> 00:34:38.349
Speaker:
another friend of ours, uh,

828
00:34:38.349 –> 00:34:39.829
Speaker:
right after we graduated high

829
00:34:39.829 –> 00:34:40.110
Speaker:
school.

830
00:34:40.110 –> 00:34:43.550
Speaker:
This was about July twenty
twelve.

831
00:34:43.550 –> 00:34:46.550
Speaker:
Uh, we all took a trip to
Chicago, Illinois.

832
00:34:46.550 –> 00:34:49.429
Speaker:
We’re all eighteen, got that
freedom on us.

833
00:34:49.429 –> 00:34:51.889
Speaker:
And we all went up to Chicago to

834
00:34:51.889 –> 00:34:53.670
Speaker:
go to a music festival called

835
00:34:53.670 –> 00:34:54.550
Speaker:
Warped Tour.

836
00:34:54.550 –> 00:34:55.590
Speaker:
Mhm.

837
00:34:55.590 –> 00:34:59.030
Speaker:
And that was just insanely fun.

838
00:34:59.030 –> 00:35:01.670
Speaker:
I mean, just having your best
friends around.

839
00:35:01.670 –> 00:35:03.030
Speaker:
You’re young.

840
00:35:03.030 –> 00:35:04.630
Speaker:
Nobody’s ever been to a big
city.

841
00:35:04.630 –> 00:35:06.750
Speaker:
And we go someplace like
Chicago.

842
00:35:06.750 –> 00:35:07.510
Speaker:
It was just.

843
00:35:07.510 –> 00:35:10.630
Speaker:
Oh, man, it was so great.

844
00:35:10.630 –> 00:35:12.869
Speaker:
Now, Blake had all kinds of
interests.

845
00:35:12.869 –> 00:35:15.469
Speaker:
He was in all kinds of groups
and clubs and had all kinds of

846
00:35:15.469 –> 00:35:17.510
Speaker:
different kinds of friends.

847
00:35:17.510 –> 00:35:19.550
Speaker:
And music was a big part of his
life.

848
00:35:19.550 –> 00:35:19.750
Speaker:
Yeah.

849
00:35:19.750 –> 00:35:21.710
Speaker:
Music was a big part of his life
ever since.

850
00:35:21.710 –> 00:35:23.789
Speaker:
You know, like I said, seventh
grade.

851
00:35:23.789 –> 00:35:25.440
Speaker:
Uh, that was a, uh, when he

852
00:35:25.440 –> 00:35:27.760
Speaker:
started in band with me, music

853
00:35:27.760 –> 00:35:29.400
Speaker:
and percussion especially, was

854
00:35:29.400 –> 00:35:31.239
Speaker:
just a giant thing, a giant part

855
00:35:31.239 –> 00:35:31.559
Speaker:
of him.

856
00:35:31.559 –> 00:35:32.420
Speaker:
And I know when he went to

857
00:35:32.420 –> 00:35:33.500
Speaker:
Wesleyan, he, you know,

858
00:35:33.500 –> 00:35:34.579
Speaker:
participated in the band a lot

859
00:35:34.579 –> 00:35:35.480
Speaker:
there too.

860
00:35:37.000 –> 00:35:39.079
Speaker:
He, he had such a big heart too.

861
00:35:39.079 –> 00:35:42.480
Speaker:
He had he had so many things
that interested him and that he

862
00:35:42.480 –> 00:35:43.440
Speaker:
could have pursued.

863
00:35:43.440 –> 00:35:45.239
Speaker:
Um, I remember him talking about

864
00:35:45.239 –> 00:35:47.719
Speaker:
going into the field of caring

865
00:35:47.719 –> 00:35:48.559
Speaker:
for animals.

866
00:35:48.559 –> 00:35:49.440
Speaker:
He at one point.

867
00:35:49.440 –> 00:35:50.199
Speaker:
Yeah.

868
00:35:50.199 –> 00:35:52.800
Speaker:
And he was so smart too, man.

869
00:35:52.800 –> 00:35:56.019
Speaker:
He, he he was one that could
have done anything and could

870
00:35:56.019 –> 00:36:00.400
Speaker:
have left a good print on this
world like that.

871
00:36:00.400 –> 00:36:01.719
Speaker:
Like there’s good guys.

872
00:36:01.719 –> 00:36:03.320
Speaker:
And then there was Blake.

873
00:36:03.320 –> 00:36:07.119
Speaker:
I mean, it like you can’t
compare the two.

874
00:36:07.119 –> 00:36:09.880
Speaker:
Sometimes that’s who he was.

875
00:36:09.880 –> 00:36:11.000
Speaker:
And the fact that the person who

876
00:36:11.000 –> 00:36:13.039
Speaker:
did this is out there free is

877
00:36:13.039 –> 00:36:13.679
Speaker:
disturbing.

878
00:36:13.679 –> 00:36:16.940
Speaker:
So hopefully we can get the word
out and maybe this will make a

879
00:36:16.940 –> 00:36:18.079
Speaker:
make a difference.

880
00:36:19.519 –> 00:36:20.079
Speaker:
Yeah.

881
00:36:20.079 –> 00:36:21.559
Speaker:
I mean, if this does, that’s

882
00:36:21.559 –> 00:36:23.780
Speaker:
great because anybody that knows

883
00:36:23.780 –> 00:36:26.429
Speaker:
me and Brandon were not the two

884
00:36:26.429 –> 00:36:28.409
Speaker:
the type of guys to do stuff

885
00:36:28.409 –> 00:36:28.929
Speaker:
like this.

886
00:36:28.929 –> 00:36:32.050
Speaker:
But when it comes to Blake, I
mean, anything that would help.

887
00:36:32.050 –> 00:36:33.130
Speaker:
Thank you for taking time out of

888
00:36:33.130 –> 00:36:34.010
Speaker:
your day to talk to me, I

889
00:36:34.010 –> 00:36:35.769
Speaker:
appreciate that.

890
00:36:35.769 –> 00:36:37.730
Speaker:
Do you guys ever talk to any of

891
00:36:37.730 –> 00:36:39.210
Speaker:
the the people who were at the

892
00:36:39.210 –> 00:36:40.730
Speaker:
house that night that Blake was

893
00:36:40.730 –> 00:36:42.130
Speaker:
shot?

894
00:36:42.130 –> 00:36:42.690
Speaker:
Yeah.

895
00:36:42.690 –> 00:36:45.889
Speaker:
I mean, I’m not in touch with
too many of them at all.

896
00:36:47.050 –> 00:36:48.449
Speaker:
Ones that I am.

897
00:36:48.449 –> 00:36:52.090
Speaker:
I mean, we we had different
relationships with Blake.

898
00:36:52.090 –> 00:36:53.730
Speaker:
So it.

899
00:36:53.730 –> 00:36:59.130
Speaker:
And it’s still hard for any of
us to talk about him because I

900
00:36:59.130 –> 00:37:02.090
Speaker:
mean, it it hurts.

901
00:37:02.090 –> 00:37:03.650
Speaker:
That’s just the only way to put
it.

902
00:37:03.650 –> 00:37:05.889
Speaker:
I can definitely understand
that.

903
00:37:05.889 –> 00:37:09.550
Speaker:
And before I talk to you guys, I
talked to Blake’s mom, Donna,

904
00:37:09.550 –> 00:37:12.530
Speaker:
and she had actually suggested I
talk to you guys because you

905
00:37:12.530 –> 00:37:13.650
Speaker:
guys were so close.

906
00:37:13.650 –> 00:37:17.070
Speaker:
So I appreciate that you guys
took the time out of your day to

907
00:37:17.070 –> 00:37:18.050
Speaker:
talk to me.

908
00:37:18.050 –> 00:37:18.329
Speaker:
Yeah.

909
00:37:18.329 –> 00:37:18.849
Speaker:
For sure.

910
00:37:18.849 –> 00:37:21.650
Speaker:
I because I want to see what she
has to say too.

911
00:37:21.650 –> 00:37:26.449
Speaker:
I mean And our hearts go out to
her one hundred percent.

912
00:37:26.449 –> 00:37:28.289
Speaker:
And we have all the love in the
world for her.

913
00:37:28.289 –> 00:37:33.610
Speaker:
And I hate how life and work
schedules go.

914
00:37:33.610 –> 00:37:35.170
Speaker:
We can’t see or talk to her as

915
00:37:35.170 –> 00:37:38.469
Speaker:
much as we’d like, but we still

916
00:37:38.469 –> 00:37:39.650
Speaker:
have all the love in the world

917
00:37:39.650 –> 00:37:41.530
Speaker:
for guys.

918
00:37:41.530 –> 00:37:43.010
Speaker:
Thank you for joining me today
on the show.

919
00:37:43.010 –> 00:37:44.530
Speaker:
I appreciate it.

920
00:37:44.530 –> 00:37:46.369
Speaker:
We appreciate you doing this
too.

921
00:37:47.730 –> 00:37:48.210
Speaker:
Thanks.

922
00:37:48.210 –> 00:37:49.530
Speaker:
Take care.

923
00:37:49.530 –> 00:37:50.289
Speaker:
All right.

924
00:37:50.289 –> 00:37:51.090
Speaker:
Take care.

925
00:37:52.369 –> 00:37:54.929
Speaker:
I attempted to reach out to the
eight who were charged with

926
00:37:54.929 –> 00:37:58.050
Speaker:
either drug offenses or not
reporting the death of a person

927
00:37:58.050 –> 00:38:01.250
Speaker:
to see if any of them had any
statements or comments.

928
00:38:01.250 –> 00:38:05.130
Speaker:
The only response I got was from
the account of Jacob McLaughlin.

929
00:38:05.130 –> 00:38:06.510
Speaker:
His girlfriend, Katie Robb,

930
00:38:06.510 –> 00:38:08.050
Speaker:
actually contacted me from his

931
00:38:08.050 –> 00:38:09.929
Speaker:
account and said that Jacob was

932
00:38:09.929 –> 00:38:11.690
Speaker:
currently in a substance abuse

933
00:38:11.690 –> 00:38:13.170
Speaker:
program, but that she wanted to

934
00:38:13.170 –> 00:38:13.530
Speaker:
talk.

935
00:38:13.530 –> 00:38:15.849
Speaker:
So this is some of our
conversation.

936
00:38:15.849 –> 00:38:19.090
Speaker:
I know the police are leaving a
lot of details out because they

937
00:38:19.090 –> 00:38:19.969
Speaker:
want different people.

938
00:38:19.969 –> 00:38:21.809
Speaker:
You know, different people are
coming forward and they want to

939
00:38:21.809 –> 00:38:25.219
Speaker:
see, if they’re just people of
just like hearsay shit, like

940
00:38:25.219 –> 00:38:28.500
Speaker:
bullshit, or they want to like,
actually like find somebody that

941
00:38:28.500 –> 00:38:30.380
Speaker:
actually knows something, you
know what I mean?

942
00:38:30.380 –> 00:38:31.219
Speaker:
Mhm.

943
00:38:31.219 –> 00:38:31.980
Speaker:
Like, I know some of the

944
00:38:31.980 –> 00:38:32.739
Speaker:
details, like they’re leaving

945
00:38:32.739 –> 00:38:33.739
Speaker:
out whatever.

946
00:38:33.739 –> 00:38:34.860
Speaker:
Um, because I’m sure there’s

947
00:38:34.860 –> 00:38:35.739
Speaker:
like a bunch of wackos, like

948
00:38:35.739 –> 00:38:37.260
Speaker:
going up there and telling them

949
00:38:37.260 –> 00:38:38.699
Speaker:
all kinds of crazy shit, like,

950
00:38:38.699 –> 00:38:40.179
Speaker:
ah, you know, conspiracy or

951
00:38:40.179 –> 00:38:40.500
Speaker:
whatever.

952
00:38:40.500 –> 00:38:42.340
Speaker:
But, um, I think that the police

953
00:38:42.340 –> 00:38:46.039
Speaker:
are just basically, um, what,

954
00:38:46.039 –> 00:38:48.320
Speaker:
waiting around for someone to

955
00:38:48.320 –> 00:38:50.260
Speaker:
turn because, you know, the

956
00:38:50.260 –> 00:38:51.500
Speaker:
reward went up to fifteen zero

957
00:38:51.500 –> 00:38:51.980
Speaker:
zero zero.

958
00:38:51.980 –> 00:38:52.539
Speaker:
Mhm.

959
00:38:52.539 –> 00:38:53.940
Speaker:
And, um, I think the police

960
00:38:53.940 –> 00:38:55.699
Speaker:
right now are just waiting

961
00:38:55.699 –> 00:38:59.059
Speaker:
around for the right, the like

962
00:38:59.059 –> 00:39:00.380
Speaker:
someone to feel guilty or want

963
00:39:00.380 –> 00:39:01.760
Speaker:
that money enough to where

964
00:39:01.760 –> 00:39:04.400
Speaker:
they’re going to turn in whoever

965
00:39:04.400 –> 00:39:05.139
Speaker:
whoever.

966
00:39:05.139 –> 00:39:05.659
Speaker:
You know what I mean?

967
00:39:05.659 –> 00:39:09.300
Speaker:
Somebody has to know, like, if
someone didn’t do this alone,

968
00:39:09.300 –> 00:39:10.019
Speaker:
you know what I mean?

969
00:39:10.019 –> 00:39:12.739
Speaker:
Like, somebody has to know.

970
00:39:12.739 –> 00:39:16.699
Speaker:
Your boyfriend Jacob was
arrested on drug charges.

971
00:39:16.699 –> 00:39:20.179
Speaker:
Uh, how exactly was he tied in
with this case?

972
00:39:20.179 –> 00:39:22.230
Speaker:
Um, it really is a shame.

973
00:39:22.230 –> 00:39:24.070
Speaker:
Like, um, I know it’s gonna

974
00:39:24.070 –> 00:39:25.030
Speaker:
sound typical, but it really is

975
00:39:25.030 –> 00:39:27.630
Speaker:
a shame that he even got, like,

976
00:39:27.630 –> 00:39:29.030
Speaker:
in this mess, whole mess to

977
00:39:29.030 –> 00:39:30.030
Speaker:
begin with.

978
00:39:30.030 –> 00:39:32.510
Speaker:
Um, he hadn’t seen he, like, you

979
00:39:32.510 –> 00:39:34.230
Speaker:
know, he had really hadn’t seen

980
00:39:34.230 –> 00:39:36.110
Speaker:
Blake in years or talked to him

981
00:39:36.110 –> 00:39:36.909
Speaker:
in years.

982
00:39:36.909 –> 00:39:43.630
Speaker:
Um, the thing is, is that they,
um, the police interrogated him,

983
00:39:43.630 –> 00:39:47.510
Speaker:
they picked him up from work and
interrogated him for so long

984
00:39:47.510 –> 00:39:48.789
Speaker:
that he had a seizure.

985
00:39:48.789 –> 00:39:49.190
Speaker:
Really?

986
00:39:49.190 –> 00:39:55.309
Speaker:
Um, yeah, he, um, um, the only
reason I think, I mean, because,

987
00:39:55.309 –> 00:39:57.989
Speaker:
you know, all the, the rest of
the guys that were charged were

988
00:39:57.989 –> 00:40:01.369
Speaker:
charged with, you know, failure
to report a death and, um, all

989
00:40:01.369 –> 00:40:02.190
Speaker:
like all that or whatever.

990
00:40:02.190 –> 00:40:05.670
Speaker:
And I think that he basically
just, um, had drug charges, like

991
00:40:05.670 –> 00:40:08.989
Speaker:
they literally got him from work
and interrogated him.

992
00:40:08.989 –> 00:40:09.789
Speaker:
And, you know, I kept asking

993
00:40:09.789 –> 00:40:10.590
Speaker:
him, he’s like, he didn’t know,

994
00:40:10.590 –> 00:40:11.590
Speaker:
he really didn’t know shit, you

995
00:40:11.590 –> 00:40:13.909
Speaker:
know, and, um, the, and I kept

996
00:40:13.909 –> 00:40:15.510
Speaker:
asking him like, well, why would

997
00:40:15.510 –> 00:40:15.789
Speaker:
they?

998
00:40:15.789 –> 00:40:16.909
Speaker:
And I believe him, you know what
I mean?

999
00:40:16.909 –> 00:40:18.869
Speaker:
Like, but I kept asking him
because I was trying to piece it

1000
00:40:18.869 –> 00:40:19.230
Speaker:
in my head.

1001
00:40:19.230 –> 00:40:20.539
Speaker:
Like, why would they fucking,

1002
00:40:20.539 –> 00:40:23.119
Speaker:
you know, like, question like,

1003
00:40:23.119 –> 00:40:24.480
Speaker:
just pick you up out of no, out

1004
00:40:24.480 –> 00:40:25.239
Speaker:
of, you know, all these random

1005
00:40:25.239 –> 00:40:25.639
Speaker:
motherfuckers.

1006
00:40:25.639 –> 00:40:27.920
Speaker:
Like, why would they pick you up
and excuse my language, but all

1007
00:40:27.920 –> 00:40:30.519
Speaker:
these random people and just,
you know, throw you in the mix.

1008
00:40:30.519 –> 00:40:33.139
Speaker:
Like, um, I was like, did you

1009
00:40:33.139 –> 00:40:34.320
Speaker:
keep in contact with any of

1010
00:40:34.320 –> 00:40:34.599
Speaker:
them?

1011
00:40:34.599 –> 00:40:39.280
Speaker:
And apparently he had sold one
of them, I think.

1012
00:40:39.280 –> 00:40:40.159
Speaker:
I believe he was the owner of

1013
00:40:40.159 –> 00:40:42.280
Speaker:
the home, the younger, younger

1014
00:40:42.280 –> 00:40:42.760
Speaker:
brother.

1015
00:40:42.760 –> 00:40:45.920
Speaker:
He had sold him some klonopins,
a couple klonopins or whatever,

1016
00:40:45.920 –> 00:40:49.800
Speaker:
a couple days, maybe a week
before this happened.

1017
00:40:49.800 –> 00:40:56.320
Speaker:
And um, also, um, he’s kind of
known for getting in like, I

1018
00:40:56.320 –> 00:40:58.840
Speaker:
mean, the guns are never like
he’s, he’s known for like

1019
00:40:58.840 –> 00:41:03.119
Speaker:
basically buying guns and then
like, either they’re stolen from

1020
00:41:03.119 –> 00:41:05.639
Speaker:
him or like, you know, whatever.

1021
00:41:05.639 –> 00:41:08.400
Speaker:
And, um, uh, I guess, I mean,

1022
00:41:08.400 –> 00:41:09.280
Speaker:
that’s the only thing I can

1023
00:41:09.280 –> 00:41:10.239
Speaker:
think of is like, the police

1024
00:41:10.239 –> 00:41:12.840
Speaker:
wanted to know who he had, might

1025
00:41:12.840 –> 00:41:14.360
Speaker:
have held a gun to recently or

1026
00:41:14.360 –> 00:41:15.400
Speaker:
traded or.

1027
00:41:15.400 –> 00:41:15.840
Speaker:
Mhm.

1028
00:41:15.840 –> 00:41:18.019
Speaker:
Um, and, you know, I’m sure that
the police are, you know,

1029
00:41:18.019 –> 00:41:20.280
Speaker:
interrogating the others and
they’re like, well, because he

1030
00:41:20.280 –> 00:41:22.719
Speaker:
got arrested after them after
the fact or whatever.

1031
00:41:22.719 –> 00:41:26.360
Speaker:
And, uh, and basically, um,
that’s all I can think of.

1032
00:41:26.360 –> 00:41:28.920
Speaker:
Like, um, you know what I mean?

1033
00:41:28.920 –> 00:41:30.079
Speaker:
Like just putting two together.

1034
00:41:30.079 –> 00:41:30.920
Speaker:
My, my sense.

1035
00:41:30.920 –> 00:41:32.039
Speaker:
I mean, I grew up across the

1036
00:41:32.039 –> 00:41:33.280
Speaker:
street from him and his mom,

1037
00:41:33.280 –> 00:41:33.920
Speaker:
Donna.

1038
00:41:33.920 –> 00:41:34.599
Speaker:
Oh, really?

1039
00:41:34.599 –> 00:41:35.320
Speaker:
So it’s.

1040
00:41:35.320 –> 00:41:35.840
Speaker:
Yeah.

1041
00:41:35.840 –> 00:41:38.840
Speaker:
So it’s, it’s, and I mean, me
and Donna are really like, well,

1042
00:41:38.840 –> 00:41:41.320
Speaker:
we used to be like, keep in
touch, you know, and we’re

1043
00:41:41.320 –> 00:41:44.480
Speaker:
really good friends for the, um,
but it’s just, it really is, I

1044
00:41:44.480 –> 00:41:49.960
Speaker:
don’t know, it really is a,
it’s, I can’t even explain it.

1045
00:41:49.960 –> 00:41:54.880
Speaker:
Like it, it could, it’s like, it
felt like it’s going to be like

1046
00:41:54.880 –> 00:41:56.480
Speaker:
another Heather case where
they’re just going to see

1047
00:41:56.480 –> 00:41:58.559
Speaker:
posters for it everywhere, like
years and years from now.

1048
00:41:58.559 –> 00:42:01.239
Speaker:
And it’s just like, makes me so
disgusted.

1049
00:42:01.239 –> 00:42:02.239
Speaker:
Mhm.

1050
00:42:02.239 –> 00:42:05.360
Speaker:
Well, I, I want to thank you for
joining me today and sharing a

1051
00:42:05.360 –> 00:42:08.199
Speaker:
little bit of what you what, you
know, I know you’re going out on

1052
00:42:08.199 –> 00:42:09.119
Speaker:
a bit of a limb here.

1053
00:42:09.119 –> 00:42:10.519
Speaker:
So I appreciate that.

1054
00:42:10.519 –> 00:42:11.679
Speaker:
And I’m really glad you’re doing
this.

1055
00:42:11.679 –> 00:42:13.519
Speaker:
Like, I like, thank you for
doing this.

1056
00:42:13.519 –> 00:42:20.750
Speaker:
Like, I really just hope it, um,
I hope like that you, can get at

1057
00:42:20.750 –> 00:42:22.530
Speaker:
least somewhere with this.

1058
00:42:22.530 –> 00:42:23.969
Speaker:
I encourage anyone who knows

1059
00:42:23.969 –> 00:42:25.849
Speaker:
anything that they think may be

1060
00:42:25.849 –> 00:42:27.269
Speaker:
useful in this case, to call the

1061
00:42:27.269 –> 00:42:28.650
Speaker:
Kentucky State Police Post

1062
00:42:28.650 –> 00:42:31.389
Speaker:
sixteen at two seven zero eight

1063
00:42:31.389 –> 00:42:34.650
Speaker:
two six three three one two, or

1064
00:42:34.650 –> 00:42:36.090
Speaker:
call anonymously at eight

1065
00:42:36.090 –> 00:42:39.829
Speaker:
hundred two two two five five

1066
00:42:39.829 –> 00:42:42.130
Speaker:
five five and tell them what you

1067
00:42:42.130 –> 00:42:43.690
Speaker:
know.

1068
00:42:43.690 –> 00:42:46.250
Speaker:
You never know that little bit
of information may be what it

1069
00:42:46.250 –> 00:42:47.809
Speaker:
takes to correct the case.

1070
00:42:50.289 –> 00:42:51.889
Speaker:
And that brings us to a close.

1071
00:42:51.889 –> 00:42:54.809
Speaker:
If you’d like to discuss this
case or any of the other

1072
00:42:54.809 –> 00:42:58.889
Speaker:
episodes, you’re welcome to join
my discord server at RiverCity

1073
00:42:58.889 –> 00:43:01.889
Speaker:
Mystery.com/discord.

1074
00:43:01.889 –> 00:43:03.889
Speaker:
Until next time, take care.