The Kelly-Hopkinsville “Little Green Men” Encounter

1
00:00:00.200 –> 00:00:01.879
Speaker:
So everybody is scared.

2
00:00:01.879 –> 00:00:03.000
Speaker:
The kids are crying.

3
00:00:03.000 –> 00:00:06.240
Speaker:
The women don’t you know June’s
about to lose it.

4
00:00:06.240 –> 00:00:08.800
Speaker:
And what are they to do?

5
00:00:08.800 –> 00:00:11.320
Speaker:
These things will not die.

6
00:00:22.760 –> 00:00:24.120
Speaker:
You’re listening to River City

7
00:00:24.120 –> 00:00:25.839
Speaker:
Mystery Podcast, the show that

8
00:00:25.839 –> 00:00:27.160
Speaker:
delves into the Evansville and

9
00:00:27.160 –> 00:00:28.440
Speaker:
surrounding Tri-State area’s

10
00:00:28.440 –> 00:00:30.640
Speaker:
mysteries, including unsolved

11
00:00:30.640 –> 00:00:31.760
Speaker:
crimes, murders and

12
00:00:31.760 –> 00:00:33.280
Speaker:
disappearances.

13
00:00:33.280 –> 00:00:34.520
Speaker:
A show that isn’t afraid to jump

14
00:00:34.520 –> 00:00:35.380
Speaker:
down the rabbit hole to

15
00:00:35.380 –> 00:00:36.979
Speaker:
investigate reports of local

16
00:00:36.979 –> 00:00:38.880
Speaker:
hauntings, sightings of UFOs and

17
00:00:38.880 –> 00:00:40.560
Speaker:
cryptids, among other paranormal

18
00:00:40.560 –> 00:00:41.920
Speaker:
phenomena.

19
00:00:41.920 –> 00:00:43.520
Speaker:
With your host, co-founder of

20
00:00:43.520 –> 00:00:44.479
Speaker:
the Humans of Evansville

21
00:00:44.479 –> 00:00:45.759
Speaker:
Facebook page.

22
00:00:45.759 –> 00:00:47.200
Speaker:
Law office worker by day.

23
00:00:47.200 –> 00:00:49.759
Speaker:
Insomniac researcher of the
unknown by night.

24
00:00:49.759 –> 00:00:51.039
Speaker:
Matt Deig.

25
00:00:55.840 –> 00:00:57.560
Speaker:
Welcome to episode 9.

26
00:00:57.560 –> 00:01:00.570
Speaker:
My guest today is someone who
has a very unique perspective

27
00:01:00.570 –> 00:01:03.210
Speaker:
into one of the most bizarre
cases involving a close

28
00:01:03.210 –> 00:01:06.409
Speaker:
encounter of the third kind that
you’ll ever hear.

29
00:01:06.409 –> 00:01:07.870
Speaker:
She’s the daughter of Elmer

30
00:01:07.870 –> 00:01:09.810
Speaker:
Lucky Sutton, one of eleven

31
00:01:09.810 –> 00:01:10.930
Speaker:
people who claimed to have

32
00:01:10.930 –> 00:01:12.790
Speaker:
encountered mysterious beings on

33
00:01:12.790 –> 00:01:13.969
Speaker:
their farm in the summer of

34
00:01:13.969 –> 00:01:16.109
Speaker:
nineteen fifty five, in an event

35
00:01:16.109 –> 00:01:17.609
Speaker:
now famously known as the

36
00:01:17.609 –> 00:01:19.409
Speaker:
Hopkinsville Kelly Little Green

37
00:01:19.409 –> 00:01:20.769
Speaker:
Men encounter.

38
00:01:20.769 –> 00:01:23.129
Speaker:
And I’ve just been fascinated
with this case ever since I was

39
00:01:23.129 –> 00:01:24.010
Speaker:
a little kid.

40
00:01:24.010 –> 00:01:25.129
Speaker:
And I’d like to welcome to the

41
00:01:25.129 –> 00:01:27.870
Speaker:
show Geraldine Sutton Stith,

42
00:01:27.870 –> 00:01:30.010
Speaker:
daughter of Lucky Sutton and

43
00:01:30.010 –> 00:01:31.250
Speaker:
author of several books on the

44
00:01:31.250 –> 00:01:33.230
Speaker:
case, including Alien Legacy,

45
00:01:33.230 –> 00:01:35.010
Speaker:
The Kelly Greenman and A Strange

46
00:01:35.010 –> 00:01:36.010
Speaker:
New World.

47
00:01:36.010 –> 00:01:37.769
Speaker:
Thank you for joining me,
Geraldine.

48
00:01:37.769 –> 00:01:38.489
Speaker:
Thank you.

49
00:01:38.489 –> 00:01:41.129
Speaker:
Thank you, Matt, for having me,
I appreciate it.

50
00:01:41.129 –> 00:01:42.209
Speaker:
I’m excited to talk to you.

51
00:01:42.209 –> 00:01:44.769
Speaker:
I’ve just finished both of your
your books on the case.

52
00:01:44.769 –> 00:01:47.769
Speaker:
And I’m really excited to hear
what you have to say.

53
00:01:47.769 –> 00:01:50.569
Speaker:
You have such a unique
perspective on what happens.

54
00:01:50.569 –> 00:01:54.450
Speaker:
And you, you were raised by the
family who actually lived it.

55
00:01:54.450 –> 00:01:55.930
Speaker:
Yes, exactly.

56
00:01:55.930 –> 00:01:57.930
Speaker:
So you know, yeah, I know the
story.

57
00:01:57.930 –> 00:01:59.170
Speaker:
And, you know, I’ve heard it.

58
00:01:59.170 –> 00:02:01.450
Speaker:
So, you know, I know how they
felt.

59
00:02:01.450 –> 00:02:03.329
Speaker:
I know what it did to them.

60
00:02:03.329 –> 00:02:06.549
Speaker:
You know, I just know I’m sure

61
00:02:06.549 –> 00:02:08.229
Speaker:
not everyone has heard of the

62
00:02:08.229 –> 00:02:10.009
Speaker:
Hopkinsville Kelly Little Green

63
00:02:10.009 –> 00:02:10.849
Speaker:
Men case.

64
00:02:10.849 –> 00:02:11.969
Speaker:
Can you tell us how you’ve come

65
00:02:11.969 –> 00:02:13.250
Speaker:
to understand the events of that

66
00:02:13.250 –> 00:02:14.849
Speaker:
evening?

67
00:02:14.849 –> 00:02:16.129
Speaker:
Okay, of course.

68
00:02:16.129 –> 00:02:19.889
Speaker:
It was August the twenty first,
nineteen fifty five.

69
00:02:19.889 –> 00:02:23.650
Speaker:
Um, this happened on my
grandmother’s farm, Miss Glennie

70
00:02:23.650 –> 00:02:27.370
Speaker:
Lankford, um, she owned the farm
with her husband.

71
00:02:27.370 –> 00:02:28.449
Speaker:
Um, he had passed.

72
00:02:28.449 –> 00:02:29.770
Speaker:
So she was a widow.

73
00:02:29.770 –> 00:02:30.969
Speaker:
So she lived there with her

74
00:02:30.969 –> 00:02:32.449
Speaker:
three small children who were

75
00:02:32.449 –> 00:02:34.930
Speaker:
twelve, ten and seven at the

76
00:02:34.930 –> 00:02:36.129
Speaker:
time.

77
00:02:36.129 –> 00:02:38.349
Speaker:
And my uncle J.C. and his wife,

78
00:02:38.349 –> 00:02:39.969
Speaker:
Eileen stayed there with her and

79
00:02:39.969 –> 00:02:42.250
Speaker:
helped her out the weekend this

80
00:02:42.250 –> 00:02:44.930
Speaker:
happened, it just so happened my

81
00:02:44.930 –> 00:02:47.289
Speaker:
dad, who had worked with the

82
00:02:47.289 –> 00:02:49.210
Speaker:
carnival since he was the age of

83
00:02:49.210 –> 00:02:51.449
Speaker:
fourteen, had come in for the

84
00:02:51.449 –> 00:02:52.169
Speaker:
weekend.

85
00:02:52.169 –> 00:02:56.610
Speaker:
Um, they were stationed in
Evansville, so they decided

86
00:02:56.610 –> 00:02:59.340
Speaker:
since they were so close, they
would get away for a few days

87
00:02:59.340 –> 00:03:02.259
Speaker:
and, you know, get some good old
home cooking and see the family

88
00:03:02.259 –> 00:03:03.580
Speaker:
for a little bit.

89
00:03:03.580 –> 00:03:06.020
Speaker:
So him and his wife Vera, and

90
00:03:06.020 –> 00:03:08.080
Speaker:
their friends, uh, Billy Ray

91
00:03:08.080 –> 00:03:10.819
Speaker:
Taylor and June came in with

92
00:03:10.819 –> 00:03:11.740
Speaker:
them.

93
00:03:11.740 –> 00:03:14.199
Speaker:
And so they spent the weekend
and enjoyed every, you know,

94
00:03:14.199 –> 00:03:15.300
Speaker:
every minute they could.

95
00:03:15.300 –> 00:03:17.939
Speaker:
And Sunday evening was going to
be their last time.

96
00:03:17.939 –> 00:03:20.020
Speaker:
So they were just enjoying a
nice, quiet evening.

97
00:03:20.020 –> 00:03:21.819
Speaker:
My grandmother had went to
church.

98
00:03:21.819 –> 00:03:23.259
Speaker:
She had gotten back.

99
00:03:23.259 –> 00:03:24.300
Speaker:
Mhm.

100
00:03:24.300 –> 00:03:25.219
Speaker:
The guys were sitting there

101
00:03:25.219 –> 00:03:27.280
Speaker:
playing cards and Billy Ray

102
00:03:27.280 –> 00:03:28.300
Speaker:
said, well, you know, I’m going

103
00:03:28.300 –> 00:03:29.539
Speaker:
to go out to the well and get

104
00:03:29.539 –> 00:03:30.219
Speaker:
some water.

105
00:03:30.219 –> 00:03:33.620
Speaker:
Of course, they did not have
running water in the house.

106
00:03:33.620 –> 00:03:34.900
Speaker:
Electricity they did.

107
00:03:34.900 –> 00:03:35.819
Speaker:
But running water?

108
00:03:35.819 –> 00:03:38.500
Speaker:
No. So he ran out to the well.

109
00:03:38.500 –> 00:03:40.240
Speaker:
And as he was standing there

110
00:03:40.240 –> 00:03:41.819
Speaker:
getting his water, he heard

111
00:03:41.819 –> 00:03:44.840
Speaker:
something he didn’t recognized,

112
00:03:44.840 –> 00:03:46.659
Speaker:
looked up toward where he was

113
00:03:46.659 –> 00:03:49.800
Speaker:
hearing this noise, and saw a

114
00:03:49.800 –> 00:03:50.419
Speaker:
round.

115
00:03:50.419 –> 00:03:52.180
Speaker:
Well, it was an oval object,

116
00:03:52.180 –> 00:03:54.219
Speaker:
silver in color, and he

117
00:03:54.219 –> 00:03:56.939
Speaker:
described it having all the

118
00:03:56.939 –> 00:03:58.900
Speaker:
colors of the rainbow floating

119
00:03:58.900 –> 00:04:00.099
Speaker:
behind it.

120
00:04:00.099 –> 00:04:02.099
Speaker:
Of course, he didn’t know what
it was.

121
00:04:02.099 –> 00:04:03.379
Speaker:
None of us would have.

122
00:04:03.379 –> 00:04:07.460
Speaker:
So he ran in the house, slammed
the door behind him.

123
00:04:07.460 –> 00:04:09.039
Speaker:
Of course, everybody was just,

124
00:04:09.039 –> 00:04:10.659
Speaker:
you know, shocked and looked up

125
00:04:10.659 –> 00:04:11.460
Speaker:
at him.

126
00:04:11.460 –> 00:04:13.379
Speaker:
You know Billy Ray, what’s
wrong?

127
00:04:13.379 –> 00:04:14.659
Speaker:
And he told him, he says, I just

128
00:04:14.659 –> 00:04:16.439
Speaker:
saw something out here and it’s

129
00:04:16.439 –> 00:04:17.220
Speaker:
not right.

130
00:04:17.220 –> 00:04:18.220
Speaker:
You know, it scared him.

131
00:04:18.220 –> 00:04:19.060
Speaker:
He was pale.

132
00:04:19.060 –> 00:04:21.180
Speaker:
He was sweating.

133
00:04:21.180 –> 00:04:22.660
Speaker:
His wife could see that.

134
00:04:22.660 –> 00:04:25.779
Speaker:
But yet they thought, well,
Billy Ray being Billy Ray, he’s

135
00:04:25.779 –> 00:04:27.860
Speaker:
just playing a trick on us.

136
00:04:27.860 –> 00:04:29.620
Speaker:
So they just let it go.

137
00:04:29.620 –> 00:04:31.339
Speaker:
Just laughed at him and kept on.

138
00:04:31.339 –> 00:04:32.300
Speaker:
And he.

139
00:04:32.300 –> 00:04:34.180
Speaker:
But he was very adamant about
it.

140
00:04:34.180 –> 00:04:35.899
Speaker:
And he kept saying, there’s
something out here.

141
00:04:35.899 –> 00:04:37.540
Speaker:
You need to listen to me.

142
00:04:37.540 –> 00:04:39.339
Speaker:
Well, my dad, who, like you

143
00:04:39.339 –> 00:04:40.660
Speaker:
said, is Elmer Lucky Sutton

144
00:04:40.660 –> 00:04:43.259
Speaker:
said, Billy, take me out to

145
00:04:43.259 –> 00:04:43.660
Speaker:
Ellis.

146
00:04:43.660 –> 00:04:45.060
Speaker:
Let’s let’s go over this again.

147
00:04:45.060 –> 00:04:46.899
Speaker:
Because they tried to reason
with him.

148
00:04:46.899 –> 00:04:49.100
Speaker:
They tried to you know, my
grandmother said, well, maybe it

149
00:04:49.100 –> 00:04:50.180
Speaker:
was a shooting star.

150
00:04:50.180 –> 00:04:53.500
Speaker:
And Billy Ray told them, no, I
know what that looks like.

151
00:04:53.500 –> 00:04:55.444
Speaker:
Well, maybe it was a meteor

152
00:04:55.444 –> 00:04:56.790
Speaker:
shower because they had been

153
00:04:56.790 –> 00:04:58.230
Speaker:
having meteor showers that

154
00:04:58.230 –> 00:04:58.550
Speaker:
month.

155
00:04:58.550 –> 00:04:59.230
Speaker:
Mhm.

156
00:04:59.230 –> 00:05:01.269
Speaker:
He said, no, I know what those
look like too.

157
00:05:01.269 –> 00:05:03.670
Speaker:
It was it was neither of those.

158
00:05:03.670 –> 00:05:07.209
Speaker:
So they went out to the well and
he stood there and he pointed

159
00:05:07.209 –> 00:05:07.870
Speaker:
towards the sky.

160
00:05:07.870 –> 00:05:09.310
Speaker:
Told my dad again what he saw.

161
00:05:09.310 –> 00:05:10.709
Speaker:
My dad tried to reason with him

162
00:05:10.709 –> 00:05:12.029
Speaker:
again with what they had just

163
00:05:12.029 –> 00:05:12.790
Speaker:
talked about.

164
00:05:12.790 –> 00:05:14.870
Speaker:
And Billy Ray is very adamant
about it.

165
00:05:14.870 –> 00:05:16.430
Speaker:
No it wasn’t none of those
things.

166
00:05:16.430 –> 00:05:19.110
Speaker:
I’m telling you, there was
something out here.

167
00:05:19.110 –> 00:05:22.670
Speaker:
Well, my dad told him, said,
listen, this is our last night.

168
00:05:22.670 –> 00:05:23.670
Speaker:
This is all we got left.

169
00:05:23.670 –> 00:05:25.350
Speaker:
Let’s go in and enjoy the rest
of it.

170
00:05:25.350 –> 00:05:27.829
Speaker:
There’s nothing out here now.

171
00:05:27.829 –> 00:05:29.709
Speaker:
So as they’re heading toward the
house, they’ll.

172
00:05:29.709 –> 00:05:31.170
Speaker:
Hound dog went running by him,

173
00:05:31.170 –> 00:05:33.069
Speaker:
tail tucked ears down, ran under

174
00:05:33.069 –> 00:05:34.629
Speaker:
the house.

175
00:05:34.629 –> 00:05:36.509
Speaker:
Well, my dad thought he’d gotten
himself in trouble.

176
00:05:36.509 –> 00:05:37.990
Speaker:
Like maybe a beehive or
something.

177
00:05:37.990 –> 00:05:39.790
Speaker:
Didn’t think any more of it.

178
00:05:39.790 –> 00:05:43.689
Speaker:
Well, he kept walking toward the
house, and lo and behold, they

179
00:05:43.689 –> 00:05:46.629
Speaker:
saw something come out of the
back of the woods.

180
00:05:46.629 –> 00:05:49.449
Speaker:
It had huge ears, big glowing

181
00:05:49.449 –> 00:05:52.110
Speaker:
eyes, arms down to the ground,

182
00:05:52.110 –> 00:05:54.709
Speaker:
and it seemed to float above the

183
00:05:54.709 –> 00:05:55.670
Speaker:
ground.

184
00:05:55.670 –> 00:05:56.310
Speaker:
Okay.

185
00:05:56.310 –> 00:05:59.870
Speaker:
Well, they both ran in the door,
slammed it behind them, and

186
00:05:59.870 –> 00:06:02.430
Speaker:
started telling everybody, yes,
there is something out here.

187
00:06:02.430 –> 00:06:04.430
Speaker:
Well, of course, my grandmother

188
00:06:04.430 –> 00:06:05.589
Speaker:
and everybody else thought,

189
00:06:05.589 –> 00:06:07.389
Speaker:
well, Billy Ray then got lucky

190
00:06:07.389 –> 00:06:09.149
Speaker:
out there to go along with his

191
00:06:09.149 –> 00:06:12.310
Speaker:
little trickery, trying to scare

192
00:06:12.310 –> 00:06:13.610
Speaker:
the girls, because you got to

193
00:06:13.610 –> 00:06:15.129
Speaker:
realize these were all people in

194
00:06:15.129 –> 00:06:16.029
Speaker:
their twenties.

195
00:06:16.029 –> 00:06:19.870
Speaker:
And June was was actually either
eighteen or nineteen.

196
00:06:19.870 –> 00:06:21.670
Speaker:
So, you know, that was their big
thing.

197
00:06:21.670 –> 00:06:22.949
Speaker:
And so they kept on.

198
00:06:22.949 –> 00:06:26.350
Speaker:
My grandmother told my dad said,

199
00:06:26.350 –> 00:06:27.829
Speaker:
you need to just calm down

200
00:06:27.829 –> 00:06:29.430
Speaker:
because I got to get these kids

201
00:06:29.430 –> 00:06:31.189
Speaker:
in bed and you’re not helping

202
00:06:31.189 –> 00:06:31.990
Speaker:
me.

203
00:06:31.990 –> 00:06:35.470
Speaker:
And he kept on, you know, mom,
there is something out here.

204
00:06:35.470 –> 00:06:37.430
Speaker:
Well, she knew it was serious.

205
00:06:37.430 –> 00:06:38.870
Speaker:
When one grabbed a rifle, one

206
00:06:38.870 –> 00:06:40.430
Speaker:
grabbed the shotgun, one went to

207
00:06:40.430 –> 00:06:41.550
Speaker:
the front door, one went to the

208
00:06:41.550 –> 00:06:42.790
Speaker:
back.

209
00:06:42.790 –> 00:06:45.829
Speaker:
So my grandmother thought, okay,

210
00:06:45.829 –> 00:06:47.870
Speaker:
I’ll go see Billy Ray because

211
00:06:47.870 –> 00:06:48.889
Speaker:
she thought she could get more

212
00:06:48.889 –> 00:06:50.649
Speaker:
out of Billy Ray than she could

213
00:06:50.649 –> 00:06:51.709
Speaker:
my dad.

214
00:06:51.709 –> 00:06:55.639
Speaker:
So she went out back where he
was squatted down there beside

215
00:06:55.639 –> 00:07:00.319
Speaker:
him, asked him, Billy Ray, what
did you see?

216
00:07:00.319 –> 00:07:01.199
Speaker:
And he told her.

217
00:07:01.199 –> 00:07:04.040
Speaker:
He said, Miss Glennie, I hope
it’s something that you never

218
00:07:04.040 –> 00:07:05.879
Speaker:
have to see.

219
00:07:05.879 –> 00:07:08.199
Speaker:
So they sat there in silence for
a while.

220
00:07:08.199 –> 00:07:09.519
Speaker:
They could hear the others

221
00:07:09.519 –> 00:07:10.959
Speaker:
talking in the background in the

222
00:07:10.959 –> 00:07:13.339
Speaker:
house, and it was, of course,

223
00:07:13.339 –> 00:07:14.480
Speaker:
getting dark.

224
00:07:14.480 –> 00:07:17.439
Speaker:
And lo and behold, around the
corner of the house where my

225
00:07:17.439 –> 00:07:22.180
Speaker:
grandmother was sitting, this
little being big ears, glowing

226
00:07:22.180 –> 00:07:24.360
Speaker:
eyes, arms down to the ground.

227
00:07:24.360 –> 00:07:27.240
Speaker:
She screams, she falls.

228
00:07:27.240 –> 00:07:28.879
Speaker:
Everybody hears her.

229
00:07:28.879 –> 00:07:30.160
Speaker:
They come run into her.

230
00:07:30.160 –> 00:07:34.000
Speaker:
She’s at Billy Ray’s helping her
get up.

231
00:07:34.000 –> 00:07:37.079
Speaker:
And she told them, said there is
something out here.

232
00:07:37.079 –> 00:07:39.639
Speaker:
And lo and behold, they hear
shot ring out in the house.

233
00:07:39.639 –> 00:07:40.560
Speaker:
They run in there.

234
00:07:40.560 –> 00:07:43.279
Speaker:
My uncle J.C. shot one through
the window.

235
00:07:43.279 –> 00:07:43.800
Speaker:
Billy Ray.

236
00:07:43.800 –> 00:07:46.120
Speaker:
I guess he got his big boy pants
on by then.

237
00:07:46.120 –> 00:07:49.720
Speaker:
He runs out the front door, and
there’s this little stoop over

238
00:07:49.720 –> 00:07:53.459
Speaker:
the door, and he’s standing
there and there’s this clawed

239
00:07:53.459 –> 00:07:56.360
Speaker:
hand that comes down trying to
grab his hair.

240
00:07:56.360 –> 00:07:58.500
Speaker:
My Aunt Eileen reaches out,

241
00:07:58.500 –> 00:08:00.399
Speaker:
yanks him back in the house, and

242
00:08:00.399 –> 00:08:02.920
Speaker:
my dad runs out, turned towards

243
00:08:02.920 –> 00:08:05.240
Speaker:
the roof where it was at, shoots

244
00:08:05.240 –> 00:08:05.560
Speaker:
at it.

245
00:08:05.560 –> 00:08:06.240
Speaker:
He hits it.

246
00:08:06.240 –> 00:08:07.800
Speaker:
Of course he hears it.

247
00:08:07.800 –> 00:08:10.000
Speaker:
Plus, these are country boys
that could shoot by the time

248
00:08:10.000 –> 00:08:12.000
Speaker:
they could walk, just about.

249
00:08:12.000 –> 00:08:12.879
Speaker:
So he hits it.

250
00:08:12.879 –> 00:08:15.399
Speaker:
It rolls, floats away.

251
00:08:15.399 –> 00:08:18.240
Speaker:
Well, somebody screams, there’s
one in the front tree because

252
00:08:18.240 –> 00:08:20.480
Speaker:
they had these huge maple trees
in the front yard.

253
00:08:20.480 –> 00:08:24.680
Speaker:
So he turned and there it is,
sitting on a big limb shoots it.

254
00:08:24.680 –> 00:08:26.639
Speaker:
It falls to the ground.

255
00:08:26.639 –> 00:08:29.360
Speaker:
Well, it floats to the ground
actually, and hits the ground,

256
00:08:29.360 –> 00:08:31.399
Speaker:
rolls and goes away.

257
00:08:31.399 –> 00:08:32.000
Speaker:
Here they are.

258
00:08:32.000 –> 00:08:33.279
Speaker:
They don’t know what these
things are.

259
00:08:33.279 –> 00:08:34.879
Speaker:
They shoot one off the back
fence.

260
00:08:34.879 –> 00:08:37.039
Speaker:
They’re trying to keep them out
of the windows, out of the

261
00:08:37.039 –> 00:08:39.279
Speaker:
doors, because it seems like
they’re trying to come in.

262
00:08:39.279 –> 00:08:42.120
Speaker:
They don’t know, you know.

263
00:08:42.120 –> 00:08:43.600
Speaker:
So everybody is scared.

264
00:08:43.600 –> 00:08:44.720
Speaker:
The kids are crying.

265
00:08:44.720 –> 00:08:48.000
Speaker:
The women don’t, you know June’s
about to lose it.

266
00:08:48.000 –> 00:08:50.559
Speaker:
And what are they to do?

267
00:08:50.559 –> 00:08:53.610
Speaker:
These things will not die.

268
00:08:53.610 –> 00:08:55.009
Speaker:
They shoot them.

269
00:08:55.009 –> 00:08:57.250
Speaker:
They come up, they come back.

270
00:08:57.250 –> 00:08:59.330
Speaker:
What are they to do?

271
00:08:59.330 –> 00:09:03.210
Speaker:
So my dad sits them all down and
tells them, says, listen, we’re

272
00:09:03.210 –> 00:09:04.529
Speaker:
going to get to Hopkinsville.

273
00:09:04.529 –> 00:09:05.929
Speaker:
If we can get to Hopkinsville,

274
00:09:05.929 –> 00:09:07.029
Speaker:
we can get help, which

275
00:09:07.029 –> 00:09:08.330
Speaker:
Hopkinsville at the time was

276
00:09:08.330 –> 00:09:09.730
Speaker:
like seven miles down the road

277
00:09:09.730 –> 00:09:11.169
Speaker:
from Kelly.

278
00:09:11.169 –> 00:09:15.330
Speaker:
So they’re sitting there in
silence, trying to wait to find

279
00:09:15.330 –> 00:09:18.830
Speaker:
a good moment to leave, when all
of a sudden they hear one going

280
00:09:18.830 –> 00:09:24.049
Speaker:
across the tin roof and they can
hear the nails clicking and

281
00:09:24.049 –> 00:09:25.809
Speaker:
scratching along the roof.

282
00:09:25.809 –> 00:09:28.450
Speaker:
Well, this really sends
everybody into hysterics.

283
00:09:28.450 –> 00:09:30.370
Speaker:
June’s really about to lose it.

284
00:09:30.370 –> 00:09:30.970
Speaker:
Everybody.

285
00:09:30.970 –> 00:09:31.929
Speaker:
The kids are crying.

286
00:09:31.929 –> 00:09:33.289
Speaker:
What are they going to do?

287
00:09:35.090 –> 00:09:36.370
Speaker:
And my dad tells them says,

288
00:09:36.370 –> 00:09:37.590
Speaker:
listen, we’re going to get out

289
00:09:37.590 –> 00:09:38.009
Speaker:
of this.

290
00:09:38.009 –> 00:09:39.289
Speaker:
Just hold on.

291
00:09:39.289 –> 00:09:40.250
Speaker:
Just hold on.

292
00:09:40.250 –> 00:09:42.649
Speaker:
So they sit there for a little
bit longer.

293
00:09:42.649 –> 00:09:44.809
Speaker:
It gets quiet again.

294
00:09:44.809 –> 00:09:45.850
Speaker:
And he says, let’s go.

295
00:09:45.850 –> 00:09:48.809
Speaker:
So they hit the trucks and head
to Hopkinsville.

296
00:09:48.809 –> 00:09:50.049
Speaker:
Here they get to Hopkinsville.

297
00:09:50.049 –> 00:09:52.570
Speaker:
Of course, this is nineteen
fifty five.

298
00:09:52.570 –> 00:09:54.409
Speaker:
Uh, one little officer on duty.

299
00:09:54.409 –> 00:09:57.850
Speaker:
You know, they didn’t have to
have a bunch like they do today.

300
00:09:57.850 –> 00:10:00.370
Speaker:
And, uh, he got eleven people

301
00:10:00.370 –> 00:10:03.309
Speaker:
from the age of seven to fifty

302
00:10:03.309 –> 00:10:05.009
Speaker:
running into this little

303
00:10:05.009 –> 00:10:07.990
Speaker:
officer’s place there, and

304
00:10:07.990 –> 00:10:09.769
Speaker:
they’re all trying to tell what

305
00:10:09.769 –> 00:10:10.129
Speaker:
happened.

306
00:10:10.129 –> 00:10:11.649
Speaker:
And he’s not understanding.

307
00:10:11.649 –> 00:10:13.690
Speaker:
And he’s like, well, whoa, whoa,
whoa.

308
00:10:13.690 –> 00:10:16.289
Speaker:
You say you got little men
trying to get into your house,

309
00:10:16.289 –> 00:10:18.570
Speaker:
and my dad’s trying to tell him,
you’re not understanding what

310
00:10:18.570 –> 00:10:19.889
Speaker:
we’re trying to tell you.

311
00:10:19.889 –> 00:10:22.889
Speaker:
So he tells them, listen, let me
call the chief.

312
00:10:22.889 –> 00:10:25.090
Speaker:
So he calls Chief Russell.

313
00:10:25.090 –> 00:10:26.169
Speaker:
Greeneville.

314
00:10:26.169 –> 00:10:27.250
Speaker:
Greeneville tells him.

315
00:10:27.250 –> 00:10:29.370
Speaker:
Says, keep them there.

316
00:10:29.370 –> 00:10:31.610
Speaker:
Call Fort Campbell.

317
00:10:31.610 –> 00:10:33.129
Speaker:
Fort Campbell Army base was

318
00:10:33.129 –> 00:10:34.049
Speaker:
about ten miles from

319
00:10:34.049 –> 00:10:35.169
Speaker:
Hopkinsville.

320
00:10:35.169 –> 00:10:38.289
Speaker:
Called Fort Campbell, called the
paper.

321
00:10:38.289 –> 00:10:40.889
Speaker:
Get Ahold of, you know, just
everybody you can.

322
00:10:40.889 –> 00:10:43.289
Speaker:
Let’s get some people out there
to this farm.

323
00:10:43.289 –> 00:10:45.389
Speaker:
Because Greenville believed

324
00:10:45.389 –> 00:10:46.570
Speaker:
wholeheartedly something was

325
00:10:46.570 –> 00:10:48.210
Speaker:
going on.

326
00:10:48.210 –> 00:10:49.700
Speaker:
So they all get there.

327
00:10:49.700 –> 00:10:51.059
Speaker:
They try to calm the family
down.

328
00:10:51.059 –> 00:10:53.940
Speaker:
They all get back in the
vehicles, head toward Kelly.

329
00:10:53.940 –> 00:10:55.980
Speaker:
Okay, you got this caravan of

330
00:10:55.980 –> 00:10:57.519
Speaker:
vehicles going to itsy bitsy

331
00:10:57.519 –> 00:10:58.539
Speaker:
Kelly in the middle of the

332
00:10:58.539 –> 00:10:58.779
Speaker:
night.

333
00:10:58.779 –> 00:10:59.940
Speaker:
It’s pitch black, dark.

334
00:10:59.940 –> 00:11:03.620
Speaker:
They didn’t have street lights
and stuff like that back then.

335
00:11:03.620 –> 00:11:06.940
Speaker:
They pull up, get out, and they
can tell something happened.

336
00:11:06.940 –> 00:11:12.940
Speaker:
It feels strange for one, two,
you’ve got rifle shotgun shells

337
00:11:12.940 –> 00:11:14.259
Speaker:
all over the ground.

338
00:11:14.259 –> 00:11:16.659
Speaker:
You’ve got them inside the house

339
00:11:16.659 –> 00:11:19.100
Speaker:
and there’s holes through the

340
00:11:19.100 –> 00:11:19.659
Speaker:
screens.

341
00:11:19.659 –> 00:11:21.740
Speaker:
There’s places on the woodwork

342
00:11:21.740 –> 00:11:24.139
Speaker:
that they hit, you know,

343
00:11:24.139 –> 00:11:25.059
Speaker:
obvious.

344
00:11:25.059 –> 00:11:27.539
Speaker:
Something happened to this
family, right?

345
00:11:27.539 –> 00:11:31.100
Speaker:
Well, as they pulled up the car
of officers did notice that

346
00:11:31.100 –> 00:11:33.460
Speaker:
there was a glowing substance
back on the fence.

347
00:11:33.460 –> 00:11:35.019
Speaker:
It was where they had shot one.

348
00:11:35.019 –> 00:11:36.480
Speaker:
So of course, they ran back

349
00:11:36.480 –> 00:11:38.139
Speaker:
there as soon as they could get

350
00:11:38.139 –> 00:11:39.059
Speaker:
there.

351
00:11:39.059 –> 00:11:40.899
Speaker:
But as they came up on the

352
00:11:40.899 –> 00:11:42.539
Speaker:
substance, it would not glow

353
00:11:42.539 –> 00:11:42.940
Speaker:
anymore.

354
00:11:42.940 –> 00:11:44.100
Speaker:
The only time they could see

355
00:11:44.100 –> 00:11:46.220
Speaker:
glowing is if they were away

356
00:11:46.220 –> 00:11:48.480
Speaker:
from it, but that’s the only

357
00:11:48.480 –> 00:11:49.820
Speaker:
thing they could find besides

358
00:11:49.820 –> 00:11:51.580
Speaker:
the, you know, shotgun and rifle

359
00:11:51.580 –> 00:11:51.980
Speaker:
shells.

360
00:11:51.980 –> 00:11:53.259
Speaker:
They looked everywhere.

361
00:11:53.259 –> 00:11:55.980
Speaker:
Couldn’t find a body.

362
00:11:55.980 –> 00:11:59.059
Speaker:
Greenwell went to my grandmother
and said, Miss Glennie, I am so

363
00:11:59.059 –> 00:12:00.460
Speaker:
sorry, but there’s nothing here.

364
00:12:00.460 –> 00:12:03.059
Speaker:
There’s nothing we can do for
you.

365
00:12:03.059 –> 00:12:04.259
Speaker:
And they left.

366
00:12:04.259 –> 00:12:05.500
Speaker:
So they left my grandmother

367
00:12:05.500 –> 00:12:08.220
Speaker:
there for anything to happen

368
00:12:08.220 –> 00:12:08.700
Speaker:
again.

369
00:12:08.700 –> 00:12:10.379
Speaker:
You know, they were still all
afraid.

370
00:12:10.379 –> 00:12:14.100
Speaker:
She finally got the kids down to
sleep.

371
00:12:14.100 –> 00:12:15.539
Speaker:
She went and got in her bed.

372
00:12:15.539 –> 00:12:18.179
Speaker:
My dad sat beside her in the
rocking chair with a shotgun

373
00:12:18.179 –> 00:12:20.539
Speaker:
across his lap.

374
00:12:20.539 –> 00:12:22.659
Speaker:
And she opened her eyes and she

375
00:12:22.659 –> 00:12:24.259
Speaker:
saw a little been at the window

376
00:12:24.259 –> 00:12:24.620
Speaker:
again.

377
00:12:24.620 –> 00:12:28.299
Speaker:
And she got to thinking, you
know, I’m tired.

378
00:12:28.299 –> 00:12:32.820
Speaker:
You know, they are physically
and mentally exhausted.

379
00:12:32.820 –> 00:12:35.860
Speaker:
So she closes her eyes and she
opens them up the second time.

380
00:12:35.860 –> 00:12:37.460
Speaker:
Well, it’s still standing there.

381
00:12:37.460 –> 00:12:40.860
Speaker:
The third time she does it, she
screams at my dad, they’re back.

382
00:12:40.860 –> 00:12:44.059
Speaker:
So they get up and here they are
defending the house again.

383
00:12:44.059 –> 00:12:48.110
Speaker:
And this goes on till the sun
rises.

384
00:12:48.110 –> 00:12:49.990
Speaker:
When the sun comes up.

385
00:12:49.990 –> 00:12:51.230
Speaker:
They disappear.

386
00:12:51.230 –> 00:12:54.509
Speaker:
And the only thing they can
figure.

387
00:12:54.509 –> 00:12:56.509
Speaker:
The reason why is they did

388
00:12:56.509 –> 00:12:58.389
Speaker:
notice that if they shined a

389
00:12:58.389 –> 00:13:00.049
Speaker:
light toward them, or if they

390
00:13:00.049 –> 00:13:02.549
Speaker:
kicked the light on, they backed

391
00:13:02.549 –> 00:13:04.149
Speaker:
off.

392
00:13:04.149 –> 00:13:05.470
Speaker:
So they thought, well, maybe

393
00:13:05.470 –> 00:13:07.149
Speaker:
their big eyes couldn’t take the

394
00:13:07.149 –> 00:13:07.590
Speaker:
light.

395
00:13:07.590 –> 00:13:10.590
Speaker:
So the sun was their saving
grace.

396
00:13:10.590 –> 00:13:13.110
Speaker:
Well, my dad got everybody set
em down.

397
00:13:13.110 –> 00:13:13.509
Speaker:
Told them.

398
00:13:13.509 –> 00:13:17.429
Speaker:
I said, listen, no good can come
of this story.

399
00:13:17.429 –> 00:13:18.669
Speaker:
I heard them last night.

400
00:13:18.669 –> 00:13:20.110
Speaker:
They were laughing at us.

401
00:13:20.110 –> 00:13:21.710
Speaker:
They don’t believe us.

402
00:13:21.710 –> 00:13:23.590
Speaker:
So they said, forget it.

403
00:13:23.590 –> 00:13:25.350
Speaker:
Just forget this ever happened.

404
00:13:25.350 –> 00:13:28.750
Speaker:
Let’s just go on with our lives
and just let it go.

405
00:13:28.750 –> 00:13:29.309
Speaker:
Mhm.

406
00:13:29.309 –> 00:13:31.649
Speaker:
Well, some of the guys actually
went to Evansville that morning

407
00:13:31.649 –> 00:13:33.149
Speaker:
to do something.

408
00:13:33.149 –> 00:13:34.549
Speaker:
Uh, the girls stayed there, and

409
00:13:34.549 –> 00:13:36.509
Speaker:
while they were there, there was

410
00:13:36.509 –> 00:13:37.549
Speaker:
people actually coming in

411
00:13:37.549 –> 00:13:38.710
Speaker:
wanting to talk to them and

412
00:13:38.710 –> 00:13:39.669
Speaker:
interview them.

413
00:13:39.669 –> 00:13:42.750
Speaker:
So they started getting
bombarded with people.

414
00:13:42.750 –> 00:13:46.590
Speaker:
And so I call it the invasion of
the people because they were

415
00:13:46.590 –> 00:13:47.870
Speaker:
coming from everywhere.

416
00:13:47.870 –> 00:13:52.750
Speaker:
Word had gotten out all over the
country that this had happened.

417
00:13:52.750 –> 00:13:55.190
Speaker:
So everybody was wanting to find
out about it.

418
00:13:55.190 –> 00:13:57.789
Speaker:
So you had people camping out in
the yard.

419
00:13:57.789 –> 00:14:00.950
Speaker:
You had people walking around
picking up souvenirs.

420
00:14:00.950 –> 00:14:02.389
Speaker:
They were actually walking

421
00:14:02.389 –> 00:14:04.149
Speaker:
through the house and taking

422
00:14:04.149 –> 00:14:04.750
Speaker:
stuff.

423
00:14:04.750 –> 00:14:05.669
Speaker:
Wow.

424
00:14:05.669 –> 00:14:06.909
Speaker:
You know, my grandmother asked

425
00:14:06.909 –> 00:14:08.190
Speaker:
one of the officers that was

426
00:14:08.190 –> 00:14:09.590
Speaker:
there, can you do something

427
00:14:09.590 –> 00:14:10.190
Speaker:
about this?

428
00:14:10.190 –> 00:14:12.669
Speaker:
They’re going to rob us blind.

429
00:14:12.669 –> 00:14:13.470
Speaker:
And he told her.

430
00:14:13.470 –> 00:14:14.629
Speaker:
He says, well, I’ll try.

431
00:14:14.629 –> 00:14:16.350
Speaker:
And so he did get everybody to
leave.

432
00:14:16.350 –> 00:14:21.549
Speaker:
But as soon as the officers were
gone, they came back.

433
00:14:21.549 –> 00:14:23.750
Speaker:
So, you know, what were they to
do?

434
00:14:23.750 –> 00:14:27.230
Speaker:
Um, my dad and Billy Ray and the
girls had to go back to work.

435
00:14:27.230 –> 00:14:28.389
Speaker:
They had to leave.

436
00:14:28.389 –> 00:14:29.629
Speaker:
So all that was going to be left

437
00:14:29.629 –> 00:14:31.190
Speaker:
was my grandmother, three small

438
00:14:31.190 –> 00:14:33.029
Speaker:
kids, and my Uncle Jesse and

439
00:14:33.029 –> 00:14:33.669
Speaker:
Aunt Eileen.

440
00:14:33.669 –> 00:14:35.750
Speaker:
And what was she to do?

441
00:14:35.750 –> 00:14:41.870
Speaker:
So, um, she sold the farm, sold
it within two weeks.

442
00:14:41.870 –> 00:14:42.429
Speaker:
Wow.

443
00:14:42.429 –> 00:14:45.799
Speaker:
And moved into Hopkinsville to
an apartment complex where she

444
00:14:45.799 –> 00:14:49.399
Speaker:
felt safer because she was
around people and she thought.

445
00:14:49.399 –> 00:14:51.679
Speaker:
Safety in numbers.

446
00:14:51.679 –> 00:14:54.120
Speaker:
And she sold the house to other

447
00:14:54.120 –> 00:14:57.320
Speaker:
family members and the kids

448
00:14:57.320 –> 00:14:57.799
Speaker:
that.

449
00:14:57.799 –> 00:14:59.259
Speaker:
Of course, they’re older today,

450
00:14:59.259 –> 00:15:01.559
Speaker:
but that are alive today can

451
00:15:01.559 –> 00:15:03.720
Speaker:
tell you that they hated that

452
00:15:03.720 –> 00:15:04.120
Speaker:
place.

453
00:15:04.120 –> 00:15:07.399
Speaker:
They did not want to move into
it because the people that lived

454
00:15:07.399 –> 00:15:10.840
Speaker:
in Kelly, you know, knew
something happened that night

455
00:15:10.840 –> 00:15:12.919
Speaker:
because they heard the stuff
that was going on.

456
00:15:12.919 –> 00:15:13.840
Speaker:
They heard the shots.

457
00:15:13.840 –> 00:15:17.279
Speaker:
They heard the screaming, the
cussing, the carrying on, you

458
00:15:17.279 –> 00:15:21.019
Speaker:
know, and all during the day,
that day, there were lights

459
00:15:21.019 –> 00:15:25.159
Speaker:
being seen around everywhere
that nobody could explain.

460
00:15:25.159 –> 00:15:27.000
Speaker:
That night, there was a light

461
00:15:27.000 –> 00:15:30.679
Speaker:
going from Clarksville to Fort

462
00:15:30.679 –> 00:15:32.440
Speaker:
Campbell through Hopkinsville

463
00:15:32.440 –> 00:15:34.240
Speaker:
and was seen over Kelly that

464
00:15:34.240 –> 00:15:35.159
Speaker:
night.

465
00:15:35.159 –> 00:15:38.360
Speaker:
But this stuff did not come out
till later on.

466
00:15:38.360 –> 00:15:40.279
Speaker:
So things, you know, were
happening.

467
00:15:40.279 –> 00:15:42.200
Speaker:
And my mom lived in Kelly at the

468
00:15:42.200 –> 00:15:43.519
Speaker:
time to see my mom and dad

469
00:15:43.519 –> 00:15:46.139
Speaker:
weren’t married yet, and, um,

470
00:15:46.139 –> 00:15:49.159
Speaker:
um, she lived there and Kelly

471
00:15:49.159 –> 00:15:51.000
Speaker:
with her first husband and seven

472
00:15:51.000 –> 00:15:51.759
Speaker:
kids.

473
00:15:51.759 –> 00:15:53.740
Speaker:
And she said it was terrifying

474
00:15:53.740 –> 00:15:54.840
Speaker:
because they didn’t know if

475
00:15:54.840 –> 00:15:56.120
Speaker:
these things were going to come

476
00:15:56.120 –> 00:15:56.519
Speaker:
back.

477
00:15:56.519 –> 00:15:58.360
Speaker:
If they did come back, what did
they want?

478
00:15:58.360 –> 00:16:00.159
Speaker:
What did they want in the first
place?

479
00:16:00.159 –> 00:16:01.919
Speaker:
Why did they land in little
bitty?

480
00:16:01.919 –> 00:16:03.279
Speaker:
What do you want?

481
00:16:03.279 –> 00:16:03.799
Speaker:
Yeah.

482
00:16:03.799 –> 00:16:05.840
Speaker:
And she was this one house, you

483
00:16:05.840 –> 00:16:07.720
Speaker:
know, nobody could understand

484
00:16:07.720 –> 00:16:08.039
Speaker:
it.

485
00:16:08.039 –> 00:16:09.919
Speaker:
So, you know.

486
00:16:09.919 –> 00:16:12.559
Speaker:
But the next morning also, I
didn’t mention this the next

487
00:16:12.559 –> 00:16:17.960
Speaker:
morning also, um, they came from
Fort Campbell and, and surveyed

488
00:16:17.960 –> 00:16:21.200
Speaker:
the place, you know, did the,
you know, aren’t the shoulders

489
00:16:21.200 –> 00:16:22.639
Speaker:
shoulder, what do they call it.

490
00:16:22.639 –> 00:16:24.720
Speaker:
I can’t think like they agreed
canvassing.

491
00:16:24.720 –> 00:16:25.279
Speaker:
Yeah.

492
00:16:25.279 –> 00:16:25.759
Speaker:
Yeah.

493
00:16:25.759 –> 00:16:29.120
Speaker:
And and and went down through
there and did that, you know, of

494
00:16:29.120 –> 00:16:32.120
Speaker:
course there was stuff flying
over that was doing searches,

495
00:16:32.120 –> 00:16:35.720
Speaker:
but you know, they just do it to
the side, let it go.

496
00:16:35.720 –> 00:16:38.399
Speaker:
They never found any physical
evidence at all.

497
00:16:38.399 –> 00:16:40.480
Speaker:
All of these gunshots and

498
00:16:40.480 –> 00:16:43.049
Speaker:
shooting and, um, all of these

499
00:16:43.049 –> 00:16:44.289
Speaker:
beings being shot and there was

500
00:16:44.289 –> 00:16:45.850
Speaker:
not anything.

501
00:16:45.850 –> 00:16:51.070
Speaker:
Well, I was told by somebody
that of course is real, a lot

502
00:16:51.070 –> 00:16:55.210
Speaker:
older now, but was there that
day that saw it that said that

503
00:16:55.210 –> 00:17:01.289
Speaker:
they did witness somebody in the
military pick up something, hide

504
00:17:01.289 –> 00:17:03.690
Speaker:
it under the shirt, run it to
the back of the truck, drop it

505
00:17:03.690 –> 00:17:05.970
Speaker:
in the back of the truck, and
the truck took off.

506
00:17:05.970 –> 00:17:07.210
Speaker:
But we’ll never know.

507
00:17:07.210 –> 00:17:09.690
Speaker:
You know, you just don’t know
about these things.

508
00:17:09.690 –> 00:17:13.250
Speaker:
So they keep everything hidden
and hush hush.

509
00:17:13.250 –> 00:17:16.130
Speaker:
And you know, it gets swept
under the rug.

510
00:17:16.130 –> 00:17:17.490
Speaker:
And we don’t talk about that.

511
00:17:17.490 –> 00:17:19.650
Speaker:
Was it ever was this case ever
investigated?

512
00:17:19.650 –> 00:17:21.650
Speaker:
I know Project Blue Book did

513
00:17:21.650 –> 00:17:23.710
Speaker:
investigations from the fifties

514
00:17:23.710 –> 00:17:25.410
Speaker:
like the fifty two to sixty

515
00:17:25.410 –> 00:17:25.690
Speaker:
nine.

516
00:17:25.690 –> 00:17:28.049
Speaker:
I think so this falls right in
there.

517
00:17:28.049 –> 00:17:30.970
Speaker:
Was there ever like an official
investigation?

518
00:17:30.970 –> 00:17:34.609
Speaker:
No, no no no, they just they
just swept it under the rug.

519
00:17:34.609 –> 00:17:36.490
Speaker:
They they never did anything
they should have.

520
00:17:36.490 –> 00:17:40.569
Speaker:
They didn’t take any samples of
anything which they could have.

521
00:17:40.569 –> 00:17:42.809
Speaker:
They could have taken a sample
off the ground where that

522
00:17:42.809 –> 00:17:44.329
Speaker:
glowing substance was.

523
00:17:44.329 –> 00:17:47.569
Speaker:
You took something off that
roof.

524
00:17:47.569 –> 00:17:49.769
Speaker:
There had to have been something
on that roof, or they’d been

525
00:17:49.769 –> 00:17:52.009
Speaker:
crawling across it yet.

526
00:17:52.009 –> 00:17:55.130
Speaker:
Dirt, anything they could have
gotten up, you know?

527
00:17:55.130 –> 00:18:02.009
Speaker:
And okay, this is a kicker
because, see, my parents kept

528
00:18:02.009 –> 00:18:03.609
Speaker:
this story hid from us.

529
00:18:03.609 –> 00:18:07.730
Speaker:
We found out about it just by
chance and by chance.

530
00:18:07.730 –> 00:18:13.750
Speaker:
I mean, when I was like eight
years old, this couple came to

531
00:18:13.750 –> 00:18:16.329
Speaker:
our house to talk to my dad.

532
00:18:16.329 –> 00:18:18.490
Speaker:
I’ll never forget this.

533
00:18:18.490 –> 00:18:22.450
Speaker:
And, um, I guess my mom and dad
thought, well, they’re going to

534
00:18:22.450 –> 00:18:25.049
Speaker:
find out about it sometime
because the other, the older

535
00:18:25.049 –> 00:18:26.329
Speaker:
kids kept this hush.

536
00:18:26.329 –> 00:18:28.490
Speaker:
They didn’t talk about it.

537
00:18:28.490 –> 00:18:33.549
Speaker:
And, uh, so my parents set us
down on the floor in a circle,

538
00:18:33.549 –> 00:18:35.009
Speaker:
all the smaller kids.

539
00:18:35.009 –> 00:18:39.569
Speaker:
And, um, my dad told this
incredible story.

540
00:18:39.569 –> 00:18:43.420
Speaker:
It scared me to death, you know,
because I’ve always loved

541
00:18:43.420 –> 00:18:45.299
Speaker:
science fiction and horror.

542
00:18:45.299 –> 00:18:48.460
Speaker:
Even when I was little, I loved
this stuff.

543
00:18:48.460 –> 00:18:51.579
Speaker:
But after I heard the story, it
terrified me.

544
00:18:51.579 –> 00:18:53.460
Speaker:
I’d go through at night, close

545
00:18:53.460 –> 00:18:54.900
Speaker:
all the doors and shutters and

546
00:18:54.900 –> 00:18:56.339
Speaker:
windows and everything because I

547
00:18:56.339 –> 00:18:57.539
Speaker:
was afraid these things were

548
00:18:57.539 –> 00:18:59.019
Speaker:
going to come back and look in

549
00:18:59.019 –> 00:19:00.299
Speaker:
at us.

550
00:19:00.299 –> 00:19:01.579
Speaker:
Well, it checks all the boxes.

551
00:19:01.579 –> 00:19:02.660
Speaker:
As far as being one of those

552
00:19:02.660 –> 00:19:04.079
Speaker:
horrible, you know, sci fi,

553
00:19:04.079 –> 00:19:06.259
Speaker:
alien invasion types of

554
00:19:06.259 –> 00:19:07.019
Speaker:
scenarios.

555
00:19:07.019 –> 00:19:08.859
Speaker:
I mean, it’s everything.

556
00:19:08.859 –> 00:19:11.539
Speaker:
So I can see why you’d be
terrified as a kid.

557
00:19:11.539 –> 00:19:12.579
Speaker:
You know, back in the late

558
00:19:12.579 –> 00:19:15.680
Speaker:
fifties, when all these sci fi

559
00:19:15.680 –> 00:19:18.339
Speaker:
movies about aliens came out,

560
00:19:18.339 –> 00:19:18.980
Speaker:
you know?

561
00:19:18.980 –> 00:19:21.460
Speaker:
So, you know, in the late
sixties, when I was like eight

562
00:19:21.460 –> 00:19:23.579
Speaker:
years old, of course, I was
watching these things.

563
00:19:23.579 –> 00:19:27.140
Speaker:
Never even thought about
anything that, you know, being

564
00:19:27.140 –> 00:19:29.539
Speaker:
real until this story.

565
00:19:29.539 –> 00:19:33.980
Speaker:
But the, the kicker to this is
the following weekend after this

566
00:19:33.980 –> 00:19:37.940
Speaker:
couple came and talked to my
dad, and my dad took us to Kelly

567
00:19:37.940 –> 00:19:42.059
Speaker:
and showed us where it all
happened and we went.

568
00:19:42.059 –> 00:19:44.140
Speaker:
The old house was still
standing.

569
00:19:44.140 –> 00:19:45.259
Speaker:
Nobody was living in it.

570
00:19:45.259 –> 00:19:46.579
Speaker:
It was coming apart.

571
00:19:47.579 –> 00:19:48.779
Speaker:
The well is still there.

572
00:19:48.779 –> 00:19:50.420
Speaker:
It’s still there right now.

573
00:19:50.420 –> 00:19:51.940
Speaker:
Is it really okay?

574
00:19:51.940 –> 00:19:52.299
Speaker:
Yeah.

575
00:19:52.299 –> 00:19:53.740
Speaker:
And then he took us back in the

576
00:19:53.740 –> 00:19:56.539
Speaker:
field where this craft had

577
00:19:56.539 –> 00:19:57.140
Speaker:
landed.

578
00:19:57.140 –> 00:19:59.259
Speaker:
And sure enough, I’ll never
forget it.

579
00:19:59.259 –> 00:20:02.819
Speaker:
This big round spot was on the

580
00:20:02.819 –> 00:20:04.299
Speaker:
ground where no grass was

581
00:20:04.299 –> 00:20:05.660
Speaker:
growing.

582
00:20:05.660 –> 00:20:05.940
Speaker:
Wow.

583
00:20:05.940 –> 00:20:07.700
Speaker:
How big was this ring?

584
00:20:07.700 –> 00:20:08.940
Speaker:
Or was it an oval?

585
00:20:08.940 –> 00:20:10.380
Speaker:
Or was it a ring?

586
00:20:10.380 –> 00:20:11.380
Speaker:
It was round.

587
00:20:11.380 –> 00:20:12.579
Speaker:
It was totally round.

588
00:20:12.579 –> 00:20:13.940
Speaker:
It was like the size.

589
00:20:13.940 –> 00:20:17.500
Speaker:
I like to tell people it was
probably the size.

590
00:20:17.500 –> 00:20:20.220
Speaker:
You know how big a like a thirty
two.

591
00:20:21.420 –> 00:20:22.859
Speaker:
How did they do?

592
00:20:22.859 –> 00:20:26.900
Speaker:
We had a swimming pool that big,
a thirty two, thirty two foot or

593
00:20:26.900 –> 00:20:31.859
Speaker:
what have you said swimming pool
about that big, I would say.

594
00:20:31.859 –> 00:20:33.259
Speaker:
You know, I was pretty decent
size.

595
00:20:33.259 –> 00:20:35.740
Speaker:
I was eight years old, but I
wasn’t stupid either.

596
00:20:35.740 –> 00:20:36.180
Speaker:
Right.

597
00:20:36.180 –> 00:20:40.190
Speaker:
So, you know, you know, it was
huge.

598
00:20:40.190 –> 00:20:43.470
Speaker:
And I’ve had people come forward
and tell me that grew up in

599
00:20:43.470 –> 00:20:45.029
Speaker:
Kelly, that there’s many a day.

600
00:20:45.029 –> 00:20:47.069
Speaker:
They just walked right across
that circle.

601
00:20:47.069 –> 00:20:48.309
Speaker:
They knew it was there.

602
00:20:48.309 –> 00:20:52.029
Speaker:
MM. You know, going hunting back
in there and stuff.

603
00:20:52.029 –> 00:20:52.549
Speaker:
Yeah.

604
00:20:52.549 –> 00:20:55.750
Speaker:
They just walk across that and
never even think twice about it.

605
00:20:55.750 –> 00:20:57.710
Speaker:
And they knew it was there.

606
00:20:57.710 –> 00:20:59.809
Speaker:
Of course now all that back in

607
00:20:59.809 –> 00:21:02.630
Speaker:
there, the people that own it,

608
00:21:02.630 –> 00:21:04.589
Speaker:
that part of the land has grown

609
00:21:04.589 –> 00:21:05.109
Speaker:
up.

610
00:21:05.109 –> 00:21:09.150
Speaker:
And I don’t even know if they’ve
even had it, you know, surveyed

611
00:21:09.150 –> 00:21:12.950
Speaker:
or not, because the trees are
huge and it’s grown.

612
00:21:12.950 –> 00:21:18.710
Speaker:
And, um, we, I don’t know how
long your, your, your thing is

613
00:21:18.710 –> 00:21:21.990
Speaker:
here, but as long as it needs to
be, it’s, there’s no time limit.

614
00:21:21.990 –> 00:21:22.309
Speaker:
Okay.

615
00:21:22.309 –> 00:21:23.269
Speaker:
I’m fascinated with this.

616
00:21:23.269 –> 00:21:24.349
Speaker:
So go ahead.

617
00:21:24.349 –> 00:21:24.990
Speaker:
Okay.

618
00:21:24.990 –> 00:21:29.690
Speaker:
Because back in twenty twenty,
uh, I don’t know if you know who

619
00:21:29.690 –> 00:21:35.390
Speaker:
Ben Hansen is, but, um, he does
the paranormal UFO shows and

620
00:21:35.390 –> 00:21:36.190
Speaker:
that type of thing.

621
00:21:36.190 –> 00:21:37.910
Speaker:
And this show came out on

622
00:21:37.910 –> 00:21:40.690
Speaker:
Discovery Plus called UFO

623
00:21:40.690 –> 00:21:41.309
Speaker:
witness.

624
00:21:41.309 –> 00:21:42.150
Speaker:
Mhm.

625
00:21:42.150 –> 00:21:44.349
Speaker:
And they got Ahold of me wanting
to do the story.

626
00:21:44.349 –> 00:21:45.750
Speaker:
So in twenty twenty, we actually

627
00:21:45.750 –> 00:21:48.450
Speaker:
went down to Kelly and and did

628
00:21:48.450 –> 00:21:49.349
Speaker:
the show.

629
00:21:49.349 –> 00:21:49.710
Speaker:
Oh, wow.

630
00:21:49.710 –> 00:21:54.490
Speaker:
And I have a book where I have

631
00:21:54.490 –> 00:21:58.190
Speaker:
a, a map where Isabel Davis, who

632
00:21:58.190 –> 00:21:59.829
Speaker:
did a really good write up on

633
00:21:59.829 –> 00:22:03.309
Speaker:
this story, uh, did a map and

634
00:22:03.309 –> 00:22:05.789
Speaker:
she actually did the map where

635
00:22:05.789 –> 00:22:08.650
Speaker:
you could tell where the craft

636
00:22:08.650 –> 00:22:10.509
Speaker:
had landed.

637
00:22:10.509 –> 00:22:16.950
Speaker:
So Ben took this map that I had
and measured out everything, and

638
00:22:16.950 –> 00:22:20.829
Speaker:
we were actually able to measure
out approximately where the

639
00:22:20.829 –> 00:22:22.190
Speaker:
craft had landed.

640
00:22:22.190 –> 00:22:23.750
Speaker:
And back in those woods, like I

641
00:22:23.750 –> 00:22:25.089
Speaker:
said, it was really, really

642
00:22:25.089 –> 00:22:25.990
Speaker:
thick.

643
00:22:25.990 –> 00:22:27.910
Speaker:
You couldn’t hardly get back in
there.

644
00:22:27.910 –> 00:22:29.490
Speaker:
But he was able to get back in

645
00:22:29.490 –> 00:22:31.109
Speaker:
there far enough that he’s

646
00:22:31.109 –> 00:22:32.670
Speaker:
pretty sure he found the spot,

647
00:22:32.670 –> 00:22:34.210
Speaker:
because there is a spot back in

648
00:22:34.210 –> 00:22:37.299
Speaker:
there that still isn’t growing

649
00:22:37.299 –> 00:22:39.720
Speaker:
like the rest of the trees

650
00:22:39.720 –> 00:22:40.279
Speaker:
around it.

651
00:22:40.279 –> 00:22:41.200
Speaker:
Okay.

652
00:22:41.200 –> 00:22:46.480
Speaker:
MM. He took a Geiger counter
with him, and it did read.

653
00:22:46.480 –> 00:22:47.880
Speaker:
After all these years, it had

654
00:22:47.880 –> 00:22:48.960
Speaker:
still had a reading in that

655
00:22:48.960 –> 00:22:49.200
Speaker:
area.

656
00:22:49.200 –> 00:22:50.680
Speaker:
That’s that’s amazing.

657
00:22:50.680 –> 00:22:53.480
Speaker:
He also brought a metal detector
because he wanted to check out

658
00:22:53.480 –> 00:22:57.220
Speaker:
some of the trees to see if
there were any, you know,

659
00:22:57.220 –> 00:22:58.960
Speaker:
shells, bullets, anything like
that in there.

660
00:22:58.960 –> 00:23:01.299
Speaker:
But of course, you couldn’t
really go by that because fifty

661
00:23:01.299 –> 00:23:04.279
Speaker:
five to now you’ve had people
hunting back there for years and

662
00:23:04.279 –> 00:23:05.079
Speaker:
years and years.

663
00:23:05.079 –> 00:23:08.680
Speaker:
So, you know, but it was just
amazing that he was able to get

664
00:23:08.680 –> 00:23:09.759
Speaker:
back in there.

665
00:23:09.759 –> 00:23:11.119
Speaker:
We went so far.

666
00:23:11.119 –> 00:23:13.839
Speaker:
Me and my sister did, and then
it just got so thick.

667
00:23:13.839 –> 00:23:17.400
Speaker:
Ben said, just hold off because
because it was getting dark.

668
00:23:17.400 –> 00:23:22.400
Speaker:
And he went back on in there
with the camera guy and got back

669
00:23:22.400 –> 00:23:23.720
Speaker:
in there as far as they could.

670
00:23:23.720 –> 00:23:26.680
Speaker:
And then when he got back in
there, he got to hearing stuff.

671
00:23:26.680 –> 00:23:28.319
Speaker:
And I think it kind of scared

672
00:23:28.319 –> 00:23:30.400
Speaker:
him because like I said, it was

673
00:23:30.400 –> 00:23:31.160
Speaker:
really thick.

674
00:23:31.160 –> 00:23:32.200
Speaker:
And he said, do you know if

675
00:23:32.200 –> 00:23:33.480
Speaker:
there’s any Bigfoot back in

676
00:23:33.480 –> 00:23:33.720
Speaker:
here?

677
00:23:33.720 –> 00:23:38.480
Speaker:
And I’m like, oh, no. I don’t
know.

678
00:23:38.480 –> 00:23:39.400
Speaker:
There’s no telling what?

679
00:23:39.400 –> 00:23:40.839
Speaker:
What’s back in these woods?

680
00:23:40.839 –> 00:23:43.039
Speaker:
Well, he could blend that
episode in with another episode

681
00:23:43.039 –> 00:23:45.440
Speaker:
of the paranormal if he if he
did bump into something.

682
00:23:45.440 –> 00:23:47.839
Speaker:
So, hey, it could have worked
out, right?

683
00:23:47.839 –> 00:23:49.920
Speaker:
But anyway, it turned out really
good.

684
00:23:49.920 –> 00:23:51.200
Speaker:
That was a really good one.

685
00:23:51.200 –> 00:23:52.119
Speaker:
You know, I’ve done several

686
00:23:52.119 –> 00:23:53.319
Speaker:
shows and I think that was

687
00:23:53.319 –> 00:23:54.759
Speaker:
probably.

688
00:23:54.759 –> 00:23:56.279
Speaker:
I’ll have to check that out.

689
00:23:56.279 –> 00:23:58.559
Speaker:
I’ll have a link to that in the,
in the show notes, so everybody

690
00:23:58.559 –> 00:23:59.440
Speaker:
can check it out.

691
00:23:59.440 –> 00:24:01.680
Speaker:
And I’ll have a link to your,
uh, your books too.

692
00:24:01.680 –> 00:24:04.200
Speaker:
Is the Amazon the best place to,
to find your books?

693
00:24:04.200 –> 00:24:07.440
Speaker:
Or is there a better well,
actually, if you really want to

694
00:24:07.440 –> 00:24:10.680
Speaker:
get a book and get it signed and
everything, you just need to go

695
00:24:10.680 –> 00:24:17.740
Speaker:
on my Etsy shop page, which is
called aliens and Goblins, all

696
00:24:17.740 –> 00:24:20.119
Speaker:
lowercase all together.

697
00:24:20.119 –> 00:24:22.519
Speaker:
And you get on there and they’re
cheaper.

698
00:24:22.519 –> 00:24:27.240
Speaker:
I sell them cheaper on there and
I autograph them for people.

699
00:24:27.240 –> 00:24:28.000
Speaker:
Oh that’s nice.

700
00:24:28.000 –> 00:24:29.680
Speaker:
I’ll, I’ll link to that too.

701
00:24:29.680 –> 00:24:31.880
Speaker:
A little, little card that’s

702
00:24:31.880 –> 00:24:33.519
Speaker:
like a synopsis that I had

703
00:24:33.519 –> 00:24:35.250
Speaker:
somebody made for me and, you

704
00:24:35.250 –> 00:24:37.049
Speaker:
know, little gifts and stuff,

705
00:24:37.049 –> 00:24:37.490
Speaker:
so.

706
00:24:37.490 –> 00:24:38.849
Speaker:
Oh very cool.

707
00:24:38.849 –> 00:24:41.769
Speaker:
I’m looking at the cover of your
book, the Kelley Greenman, and

708
00:24:41.769 –> 00:24:46.950
Speaker:
it’s got a picture of, I think,
what the family all reported as

709
00:24:46.950 –> 00:24:47.849
Speaker:
what the creature looked like.

710
00:24:47.849 –> 00:24:49.609
Speaker:
And it just, it’s terrifying
actually.

711
00:24:49.609 –> 00:24:52.769
Speaker:
It’s got these giant yellow
eyes, long skinny arms.

712
00:24:52.769 –> 00:24:53.410
Speaker:
Yes.

713
00:24:53.410 –> 00:24:55.450
Speaker:
Um, but he wasn’t terrifying.

714
00:24:55.450 –> 00:24:56.609
Speaker:
I know the Evansville newspaper

715
00:24:56.609 –> 00:24:58.130
Speaker:
at the time reported the little

716
00:24:58.130 –> 00:25:00.490
Speaker:
green man, but it was actually

717
00:25:00.490 –> 00:25:01.569
Speaker:
not green.

718
00:25:01.569 –> 00:25:03.009
Speaker:
More of a silvery or gray.

719
00:25:03.009 –> 00:25:03.730
Speaker:
Is that correct?

720
00:25:03.730 –> 00:25:04.210
Speaker:
Yes.

721
00:25:04.210 –> 00:25:04.809
Speaker:
Yes.

722
00:25:04.809 –> 00:25:07.009
Speaker:
Well, they call it gunmetal
gray.

723
00:25:07.009 –> 00:25:07.769
Speaker:
Gunmetal gray.

724
00:25:07.769 –> 00:25:08.250
Speaker:
Okay.

725
00:25:08.250 –> 00:25:09.410
Speaker:
Yeah.

726
00:25:09.410 –> 00:25:14.250
Speaker:
But, um, the coin little green
man came from a reporter that

727
00:25:14.250 –> 00:25:15.690
Speaker:
put the two and two together.

728
00:25:15.690 –> 00:25:16.170
Speaker:
Kelly.

729
00:25:16.170 –> 00:25:17.130
Speaker:
Kelly green.

730
00:25:17.130 –> 00:25:17.769
Speaker:
Oh, there you go.

731
00:25:17.769 –> 00:25:18.809
Speaker:
Yeah.

732
00:25:18.809 –> 00:25:19.970
Speaker:
And, um.

733
00:25:19.970 –> 00:25:21.009
Speaker:
So he just made it.

734
00:25:21.009 –> 00:25:22.450
Speaker:
Kelly Green man, because it just

735
00:25:22.450 –> 00:25:25.150
Speaker:
sounded better than Kelly Gray

736
00:25:25.150 –> 00:25:25.650
Speaker:
man.

737
00:25:25.650 –> 00:25:27.250
Speaker:
Than the gunmetal men.

738
00:25:27.250 –> 00:25:27.730
Speaker:
Yeah.

739
00:25:27.730 –> 00:25:31.410
Speaker:
And so when you hear little
green men, you hear that phrase.

740
00:25:31.410 –> 00:25:33.609
Speaker:
It actually came from this.

741
00:25:33.609 –> 00:25:34.410
Speaker:
Wow.

742
00:25:34.410 –> 00:25:37.049
Speaker:
Yeah, I learned something there.

743
00:25:37.049 –> 00:25:40.369
Speaker:
What are some of the alternative
theories as to what this was?

744
00:25:40.369 –> 00:25:44.990
Speaker:
If this wasn’t some sort of UFO
landing with aliens visiting,

745
00:25:44.990 –> 00:25:47.049
Speaker:
what do you think it could have
been if it weren’t?

746
00:25:47.049 –> 00:25:50.809
Speaker:
If it wasn’t that I couldn’t
tell you.

747
00:25:50.809 –> 00:25:54.490
Speaker:
I mean, I have to think after

748
00:25:54.490 –> 00:25:56.210
Speaker:
you hear everything and put it

749
00:25:56.210 –> 00:25:58.109
Speaker:
together, you have to think

750
00:25:58.109 –> 00:25:58.529
Speaker:
alien.

751
00:25:58.529 –> 00:26:01.650
Speaker:
Because like I said, people see
lights during the day.

752
00:26:01.650 –> 00:26:03.650
Speaker:
That day they see lights.

753
00:26:03.650 –> 00:26:06.650
Speaker:
That night, they heard things
during the night.

754
00:26:06.650 –> 00:26:08.289
Speaker:
That night that didn’t make any
sense.

755
00:26:08.289 –> 00:26:09.650
Speaker:
So they’d never heard before.

756
00:26:09.650 –> 00:26:10.650
Speaker:
Right.

757
00:26:10.650 –> 00:26:14.170
Speaker:
Um, so with that, I have to
thank alien.

758
00:26:14.170 –> 00:26:15.190
Speaker:
Of course, you know, they are,

759
00:26:15.190 –> 00:26:16.569
Speaker:
they, you know, they are called

760
00:26:16.569 –> 00:26:17.890
Speaker:
Hopkinsville goblins.

761
00:26:17.890 –> 00:26:18.769
Speaker:
And the reason they’re called

762
00:26:18.769 –> 00:26:21.089
Speaker:
goblins is and I love goblins

763
00:26:21.089 –> 00:26:22.730
Speaker:
better than Kelly Kelly green

764
00:26:22.730 –> 00:26:23.009
Speaker:
man.

765
00:26:23.009 –> 00:26:24.009
Speaker:
I’ll be honest with you.

766
00:26:24.009 –> 00:26:26.369
Speaker:
I just love calling them
goblins.

767
00:26:26.369 –> 00:26:29.390
Speaker:
But my grandmother, you know,

768
00:26:29.390 –> 00:26:31.089
Speaker:
she thought there was something

769
00:26:31.089 –> 00:26:32.460
Speaker:
the devil had brought forth

770
00:26:32.460 –> 00:26:33.380
Speaker:
because she was really

771
00:26:33.380 –> 00:26:34.539
Speaker:
religious.

772
00:26:34.539 –> 00:26:38.180
Speaker:
And so that was her first
thought, that did she do

773
00:26:38.180 –> 00:26:42.019
Speaker:
something wrong with something,
you know, and, and cause she

774
00:26:42.019 –> 00:26:43.859
Speaker:
just went to church that night.

775
00:26:43.859 –> 00:26:47.740
Speaker:
Like I said, she’s very
religious, um, goblins.

776
00:26:47.740 –> 00:26:51.579
Speaker:
So they did call them goblins
for a little bit until people

777
00:26:51.579 –> 00:26:53.980
Speaker:
realized, okay, we had all this
stuff going on.

778
00:26:53.980 –> 00:26:59.420
Speaker:
So. MM, maybe they were aliens,
but, you know, I’ve had people

779
00:26:59.420 –> 00:27:01.700
Speaker:
come forward and tell me
different things too, which you

780
00:27:01.700 –> 00:27:03.099
Speaker:
read in the book.

781
00:27:03.099 –> 00:27:03.579
Speaker:
Absolutely.

782
00:27:03.579 –> 00:27:06.839
Speaker:
I know like owls, like an owl,
but I mean, these people were

783
00:27:06.839 –> 00:27:09.819
Speaker:
you’re in the middle of kind of
you’re in the country.

784
00:27:09.819 –> 00:27:11.859
Speaker:
These people are farm people and

785
00:27:11.859 –> 00:27:13.640
Speaker:
they know what an owl looks like

786
00:27:13.640 –> 00:27:14.299
Speaker:
at night.

787
00:27:14.299 –> 00:27:15.059
Speaker:
So I got to think.

788
00:27:15.059 –> 00:27:18.740
Speaker:
And also shooting a creature
that close, I mean, I don’t

789
00:27:18.740 –> 00:27:20.660
Speaker:
think they’re gonna miss.

790
00:27:20.660 –> 00:27:22.740
Speaker:
So that doesn’t make any sense
to me.

791
00:27:22.740 –> 00:27:25.579
Speaker:
These and I think I think a cat
and monkey theory.

792
00:27:25.579 –> 00:27:27.359
Speaker:
But I mean, again, you know,

793
00:27:27.359 –> 00:27:28.539
Speaker:
they know what animals look

794
00:27:28.539 –> 00:27:29.460
Speaker:
like.

795
00:27:29.460 –> 00:27:30.960
Speaker:
Animals don’t have giant yellow

796
00:27:30.960 –> 00:27:33.019
Speaker:
eyes and float around and dodge

797
00:27:33.019 –> 00:27:34.539
Speaker:
bullets and, you know, that sort

798
00:27:34.539 –> 00:27:35.180
Speaker:
of thing.

799
00:27:36.420 –> 00:27:41.339
Speaker:
And that’s why sometimes it just
it just tickles me because you

800
00:27:41.339 –> 00:27:42.500
Speaker:
can’t make people understand.

801
00:27:42.500 –> 00:27:45.660
Speaker:
These were country boys that
could hit anything, right?

802
00:27:45.660 –> 00:27:47.859
Speaker:
You know, they could hit a
rabbit running and a squirrel

803
00:27:47.859 –> 00:27:49.019
Speaker:
out of a tree.

804
00:27:49.019 –> 00:27:51.980
Speaker:
So they were hitting these three
foot tall beings.

805
00:27:51.980 –> 00:27:54.779
Speaker:
So, you know, it just kills me
when somebody comes and says,

806
00:27:54.779 –> 00:27:56.220
Speaker:
oh, it was just a monkey.

807
00:27:56.220 –> 00:27:58.619
Speaker:
Or it was just, oh, hey, if it

808
00:27:58.619 –> 00:28:00.920
Speaker:
was something living, it would

809
00:28:00.920 –> 00:28:02.420
Speaker:
be splattered all over the

810
00:28:02.420 –> 00:28:03.180
Speaker:
place.

811
00:28:03.180 –> 00:28:03.579
Speaker:
Yeah.

812
00:28:03.579 –> 00:28:06.019
Speaker:
I mean, they were hunters and
stuff now.

813
00:28:06.019 –> 00:28:08.059
Speaker:
Um, was your dad the type to.

814
00:28:08.059 –> 00:28:10.140
Speaker:
I mean, because I know they were
kind of joking around that day,

815
00:28:10.140 –> 00:28:12.680
Speaker:
but I mean, was your dad the
type to like, keep us, you know,

816
00:28:12.680 –> 00:28:15.500
Speaker:
keep something like this going
for so many years with, you

817
00:28:15.500 –> 00:28:18.019
Speaker:
know, without coming out and
saying, okay, that was a joke.

818
00:28:18.019 –> 00:28:20.420
Speaker:
I mean, was he a jokester or
anything like that?

819
00:28:20.420 –> 00:28:23.299
Speaker:
No, no, my dad was the serious
one.

820
00:28:23.299 –> 00:28:24.740
Speaker:
Billy Ray was jokester.

821
00:28:24.740 –> 00:28:26.339
Speaker:
My dad was serious.

822
00:28:26.339 –> 00:28:31.549
Speaker:
I mean, whatever this was, it
scared him to death.

823
00:28:31.549 –> 00:28:34.309
Speaker:
He didn’t like talking about it.

824
00:28:34.309 –> 00:28:36.730
Speaker:
Uh, you know, of course, people
would come forward every once in

825
00:28:36.730 –> 00:28:38.750
Speaker:
a while and want to come talk to
him about it.

826
00:28:38.750 –> 00:28:40.190
Speaker:
He just wouldn’t do it.

827
00:28:40.190 –> 00:28:43.069
Speaker:
It was like before he passed
away, they had there was

828
00:28:43.069 –> 00:28:46.829
Speaker:
somebody from Germany trying to
get Ahold of him, wanting to

829
00:28:46.829 –> 00:28:49.869
Speaker:
talk to him, actually wanting to
take him over to Germany, and he

830
00:28:49.869 –> 00:28:52.109
Speaker:
just wouldn’t do it.

831
00:28:52.109 –> 00:28:54.549
Speaker:
I mean, it frightened him to
death.

832
00:28:54.549 –> 00:28:56.670
Speaker:
It you know, I’m surprised to

833
00:28:56.670 –> 00:28:58.109
Speaker:
even talk to those two people

834
00:28:58.109 –> 00:29:00.569
Speaker:
that came back in the sixties,

835
00:29:00.569 –> 00:29:01.609
Speaker:
you know, when I was little,

836
00:29:01.609 –> 00:29:03.670
Speaker:
because he just did not talk

837
00:29:03.670 –> 00:29:04.029
Speaker:
about it.

838
00:29:04.029 –> 00:29:06.670
Speaker:
But I guess he figured, well,
the kids need to know because

839
00:29:06.670 –> 00:29:08.630
Speaker:
they’re going to find out.

840
00:29:08.630 –> 00:29:09.309
Speaker:
Right.

841
00:29:09.309 –> 00:29:11.049
Speaker:
And that kind and that kind of

842
00:29:11.049 –> 00:29:13.109
Speaker:
takes away from the whole, they

843
00:29:13.109 –> 00:29:14.730
Speaker:
just did this for money or

844
00:29:14.730 –> 00:29:16.809
Speaker:
notoriety or attention because,

845
00:29:16.809 –> 00:29:18.029
Speaker:
I mean, they didn’t really get

846
00:29:18.029 –> 00:29:18.390
Speaker:
any.

847
00:29:18.390 –> 00:29:20.990
Speaker:
I mean, they got attention, but
it was seemed to be unwanted and

848
00:29:20.990 –> 00:29:23.309
Speaker:
they never really profited on.

849
00:29:23.309 –> 00:29:26.509
Speaker:
Well, yeah, you know, you got to
realize too, my grandmother and

850
00:29:26.509 –> 00:29:29.150
Speaker:
uncle J.C. and them, they didn’t
have the money to go to the

851
00:29:29.150 –> 00:29:30.910
Speaker:
movies and see things like this.

852
00:29:30.910 –> 00:29:35.309
Speaker:
This is just an old country
family that barely made it from

853
00:29:35.309 –> 00:29:38.630
Speaker:
week to week, much less knew
about such things.

854
00:29:38.630 –> 00:29:41.950
Speaker:
They had a radio, but they
didn’t have anything else.

855
00:29:41.950 –> 00:29:44.710
Speaker:
The only thing they had was, you
know, the people they knew at

856
00:29:44.710 –> 00:29:47.390
Speaker:
church, their neighbors and
stuff like that.

857
00:29:47.390 –> 00:29:50.589
Speaker:
They did not know such a thing
existed.

858
00:29:50.589 –> 00:29:54.150
Speaker:
And, you know, the only ones
that would have are my dad and

859
00:29:54.150 –> 00:29:57.349
Speaker:
Billy Ray, because of course,
they traveled and they may have

860
00:29:57.349 –> 00:30:00.710
Speaker:
known, I don’t know, they may
have not sure.

861
00:30:00.710 –> 00:30:04.869
Speaker:
And, uh, um, but yeah, this is
something that terrified them.

862
00:30:04.869 –> 00:30:06.029
Speaker:
You know, it terrified those

863
00:30:06.029 –> 00:30:08.829
Speaker:
three kids to this day, the two

864
00:30:08.829 –> 00:30:10.349
Speaker:
younger ones will not speak of

865
00:30:10.349 –> 00:30:11.390
Speaker:
this.

866
00:30:11.390 –> 00:30:16.710
Speaker:
The older one, he used to, but
he doesn’t anymore.

867
00:30:16.710 –> 00:30:19.869
Speaker:
Now, the kids that were there
because there were eleven people

868
00:30:19.869 –> 00:30:21.190
Speaker:
in the house, right?

869
00:30:21.190 –> 00:30:21.990
Speaker:
Right.

870
00:30:21.990 –> 00:30:25.470
Speaker:
There were several of those were
children who never did they

871
00:30:25.470 –> 00:30:28.319
Speaker:
actually see the creature, or
have they just not talked?

872
00:30:28.319 –> 00:30:29.960
Speaker:
Because that was under the
impression from reading the book

873
00:30:29.960 –> 00:30:30.880
Speaker:
that they didn’t see anything.

874
00:30:30.880 –> 00:30:32.000
Speaker:
They were just kind of like

875
00:30:32.000 –> 00:30:33.880
Speaker:
huddling in the back bedroom or

876
00:30:33.880 –> 00:30:34.759
Speaker:
something.

877
00:30:34.759 –> 00:30:40.559
Speaker:
The older one did because the
two smaller ones really didn’t.

878
00:30:40.559 –> 00:30:42.200
Speaker:
The older one did.

879
00:30:42.200 –> 00:30:42.680
Speaker:
Mhm.

880
00:30:42.680 –> 00:30:49.519
Speaker:
Um, he says that he, he got away
because they my dad actually

881
00:30:49.519 –> 00:30:53.279
Speaker:
told my Aunt Eileen to take him
to the bedroom and hide the kids

882
00:30:53.279 –> 00:30:56.359
Speaker:
under the bed, because he didn’t
know what these things were.

883
00:30:56.359 –> 00:30:56.720
Speaker:
Sure.

884
00:30:56.720 –> 00:30:58.640
Speaker:
If they were going to try to
hurt them or what?

885
00:30:58.640 –> 00:30:59.400
Speaker:
Mhm.

886
00:30:59.400 –> 00:31:04.000
Speaker:
And so my uncle Lonnie got off
the bed and, and went, ran to

887
00:31:04.000 –> 00:31:05.079
Speaker:
the window to look.

888
00:31:05.079 –> 00:31:07.720
Speaker:
And he looked out and there was
one outside the window.

889
00:31:07.720 –> 00:31:09.759
Speaker:
So he actually seen one.

890
00:31:09.759 –> 00:31:12.440
Speaker:
Now the two smaller ones, I
don’t think they did.

891
00:31:12.440 –> 00:31:15.099
Speaker:
They kind of blocked this out

892
00:31:15.099 –> 00:31:16.380
Speaker:
because it was just so

893
00:31:16.380 –> 00:31:17.880
Speaker:
terrifying.

894
00:31:17.880 –> 00:31:19.920
Speaker:
My Aunt Mary, she’s a little
bitty thing.

895
00:31:19.920 –> 00:31:24.039
Speaker:
She’s a little bitty thing now,
and I can’t imagine these things

896
00:31:24.039 –> 00:31:26.400
Speaker:
were probably as big as she was,
if not bigger.

897
00:31:26.400 –> 00:31:29.920
Speaker:
Oh my gosh, probably bigger
because she was tiny.

898
00:31:29.920 –> 00:31:31.920
Speaker:
And so I can’t imagine.

899
00:31:31.920 –> 00:31:38.000
Speaker:
And this is okay if you really
want to know how true this story

900
00:31:38.000 –> 00:31:41.400
Speaker:
is, this is a good thing.

901
00:31:41.400 –> 00:31:45.799
Speaker:
I can tell you that will just
show you when they had the Kelly

902
00:31:45.799 –> 00:31:50.440
Speaker:
Festival every year, I would
have to go and speak.

903
00:31:50.440 –> 00:31:53.519
Speaker:
And so they would schedule for
me to speak.

904
00:31:53.519 –> 00:31:55.660
Speaker:
And so I’d always noticed that

905
00:31:55.660 –> 00:31:57.799
Speaker:
my aunts, my aunt and my two

906
00:31:57.799 –> 00:31:59.519
Speaker:
uncles would never come during

907
00:31:59.519 –> 00:32:02.480
Speaker:
my speaker thing, you know, no

908
00:32:02.480 –> 00:32:03.079
Speaker:
biggie.

909
00:32:03.079 –> 00:32:04.720
Speaker:
That’s all right, I didn’t care.

910
00:32:04.720 –> 00:32:10.559
Speaker:
I understood one year when I did
it, my Aunt Mary was there, and

911
00:32:10.559 –> 00:32:13.839
Speaker:
I think she must have not looked
at the schedule or something.

912
00:32:13.839 –> 00:32:15.480
Speaker:
But anyway, she stayed there.

913
00:32:15.480 –> 00:32:18.119
Speaker:
She was out in the audience.

914
00:32:18.119 –> 00:32:21.079
Speaker:
And after I was done with the
story come off the stage, she

915
00:32:21.079 –> 00:32:21.759
Speaker:
come up to me.

916
00:32:21.759 –> 00:32:28.289
Speaker:
She was white as a sheet, And
she told me, she said, oh my

917
00:32:28.289 –> 00:32:29.730
Speaker:
gosh, it brought it all back.

918
00:32:29.730 –> 00:32:31.529
Speaker:
I says, what do you mean?

919
00:32:31.529 –> 00:32:34.009
Speaker:
And she said, it brought it all
back.

920
00:32:34.009 –> 00:32:37.609
Speaker:
She said, it’s terrifying.

921
00:32:39.410 –> 00:32:45.309
Speaker:
It scared her to death to hear
that again, because all these

922
00:32:45.309 –> 00:32:48.630
Speaker:
years she has put it in the back
of her mind and has tried to

923
00:32:48.630 –> 00:32:52.809
Speaker:
forget this ever existed, ever
happened to them.

924
00:32:52.809 –> 00:32:55.809
Speaker:
Then all of a sudden, here I am
telling this story.

925
00:32:55.809 –> 00:32:57.650
Speaker:
What happened that night?

926
00:32:57.650 –> 00:32:59.569
Speaker:
She was there.

927
00:32:59.569 –> 00:33:02.410
Speaker:
So she relived it.

928
00:33:02.410 –> 00:33:04.009
Speaker:
She was terrified.

929
00:33:04.009 –> 00:33:05.970
Speaker:
And if it didn’t happen, if it
was some made up story.

930
00:33:05.970 –> 00:33:08.150
Speaker:
I mean, she wouldn’t have had
that reaction, most likely

931
00:33:08.150 –> 00:33:10.730
Speaker:
because it wouldn’t have been
another thing that kind of makes

932
00:33:10.730 –> 00:33:12.849
Speaker:
it more not to doubt anybody.

933
00:33:12.849 –> 00:33:14.289
Speaker:
I’m a natural skeptic.

934
00:33:14.289 –> 00:33:17.009
Speaker:
I like to have an open mind, but
I do like to kind of think think

935
00:33:17.009 –> 00:33:18.609
Speaker:
of things skeptically.

936
00:33:18.609 –> 00:33:20.410
Speaker:
Yeah, I think that’s just
healthy.

937
00:33:20.410 –> 00:33:23.170
Speaker:
Um, if they were, if it was some
sort of prank.

938
00:33:23.170 –> 00:33:25.250
Speaker:
I mean, you’ve got little
children running around the

939
00:33:25.250 –> 00:33:28.329
Speaker:
house and you’re shooting guns
in the house through the window.

940
00:33:28.329 –> 00:33:32.650
Speaker:
I mean, that’s taking things a
little far for a prank, right?

941
00:33:32.650 –> 00:33:35.970
Speaker:
I mean, so there definitely was,
in my opinion, there was

942
00:33:35.970 –> 00:33:39.369
Speaker:
definitely something there that
they had that scared the heck

943
00:33:39.369 –> 00:33:40.210
Speaker:
out of them.

944
00:33:40.210 –> 00:33:41.650
Speaker:
Um, there’s no doubt about that.

945
00:33:41.650 –> 00:33:43.329
Speaker:
And they were shooting at
something.

946
00:33:43.329 –> 00:33:45.869
Speaker:
And that’s what I try to make
people understand when I do

947
00:33:45.869 –> 00:33:49.490
Speaker:
speaker sessions and book stuff
and all that kind of thing, I

948
00:33:49.490 –> 00:33:53.210
Speaker:
try to make people understand,
hey, whether it be paranormal,

949
00:33:53.210 –> 00:33:56.329
Speaker:
whether it be alien, whether I
don’t know what it was, but

950
00:33:56.329 –> 00:34:00.769
Speaker:
something happened to this
family that night, whether you

951
00:34:00.769 –> 00:34:03.730
Speaker:
want to believe it or not,
something happened to this

952
00:34:03.730 –> 00:34:07.170
Speaker:
family, something that caused
them to panic so much to where

953
00:34:07.170 –> 00:34:09.690
Speaker:
they all pile into the car and
go to the police station in the

954
00:34:09.690 –> 00:34:11.010
Speaker:
middle of the night.

955
00:34:11.010 –> 00:34:12.469
Speaker:
And I gotta think, you know,

956
00:34:12.469 –> 00:34:13.869
Speaker:
being these, you know, country

957
00:34:13.869 –> 00:34:15.690
Speaker:
guys that are kind of probably

958
00:34:15.690 –> 00:34:17.630
Speaker:
macho and, like, not exactly

959
00:34:17.630 –> 00:34:18.889
Speaker:
how, you know, I’m gonna be

960
00:34:18.889 –> 00:34:20.090
Speaker:
running scared into the police

961
00:34:20.090 –> 00:34:21.530
Speaker:
station saying there’s aliens

962
00:34:21.530 –> 00:34:22.010
Speaker:
running around.

963
00:34:22.010 –> 00:34:23.355
Speaker:
I mean, exactly, for that to

964
00:34:23.355 –> 00:34:24.480
Speaker:
happen, you’ve got to really be

965
00:34:24.480 –> 00:34:26.059
Speaker:
kind of frazzled, to say the

966
00:34:26.059 –> 00:34:26.300
Speaker:
least.

967
00:34:26.300 –> 00:34:26.780
Speaker:
Exactly.

968
00:34:26.780 –> 00:34:27.579
Speaker:
You’re not going to take your

969
00:34:27.579 –> 00:34:29.059
Speaker:
fifty year old mama and your

970
00:34:29.059 –> 00:34:31.659
Speaker:
little bitty, uh, two brothers

971
00:34:31.659 –> 00:34:34.059
Speaker:
and, and sister out in the

972
00:34:34.059 –> 00:34:35.219
Speaker:
middle of the night to the

973
00:34:35.219 –> 00:34:36.820
Speaker:
police station seven miles down

974
00:34:36.820 –> 00:34:37.179
Speaker:
the road.

975
00:34:37.179 –> 00:34:39.460
Speaker:
If there isn’t something
happening there.

976
00:34:39.460 –> 00:34:40.980
Speaker:
I wouldn’t think so.

977
00:34:40.980 –> 00:34:41.699
Speaker:
And then you don’t.

978
00:34:41.699 –> 00:34:44.659
Speaker:
And then you don’t walk into a
place and find it all shot up.

979
00:34:44.659 –> 00:34:47.380
Speaker:
You know, they couldn’t afford
to shoot up their house and have

980
00:34:47.380 –> 00:34:49.019
Speaker:
to refix it.

981
00:34:49.019 –> 00:34:50.380
Speaker:
You know, there were poor
people.

982
00:34:50.380 –> 00:34:51.539
Speaker:
They couldn’t do that.

983
00:34:51.539 –> 00:34:52.820
Speaker:
You don’t do that.

984
00:34:52.820 –> 00:34:53.739
Speaker:
That’s a good point.

985
00:34:53.739 –> 00:34:55.380
Speaker:
Like, why would they have done
that?

986
00:34:55.380 –> 00:34:56.059
Speaker:
Yes.

987
00:34:56.059 –> 00:34:58.500
Speaker:
Plus, you know, all the
neighbors were hearing this.

988
00:34:58.500 –> 00:35:01.619
Speaker:
In fact, one of the neighbors
that lived behind them in the

989
00:35:01.619 –> 00:35:04.900
Speaker:
next farm over heard the
commotion going on and thought

990
00:35:04.900 –> 00:35:06.940
Speaker:
they were having trouble with
the animals or something.

991
00:35:06.940 –> 00:35:09.539
Speaker:
He actually put on his boots,
grabbed his flashlight and was

992
00:35:09.539 –> 00:35:11.500
Speaker:
fixing head on out.

993
00:35:11.500 –> 00:35:16.059
Speaker:
And then the gunshots started
and he’s like, nope, not gonna

994
00:35:16.059 –> 00:35:18.099
Speaker:
have any of that, you know?

995
00:35:18.099 –> 00:35:20.059
Speaker:
But I’ll get shot before I get
there.

996
00:35:20.059 –> 00:35:20.659
Speaker:
No kidding.

997
00:35:20.659 –> 00:35:24.420
Speaker:
Did that person see anything as
far as like lights or hear, you

998
00:35:24.420 –> 00:35:27.219
Speaker:
know, any of the see any
creatures or anything like that

999
00:35:27.219 –> 00:35:28.980
Speaker:
that I don’t think they did.

1000
00:35:28.980 –> 00:35:30.860
Speaker:
They may have seen lights or
something, but I don’t know.

1001
00:35:30.860 –> 00:35:31.780
Speaker:
I know they didn’t see any

1002
00:35:31.780 –> 00:35:33.460
Speaker:
creatures because they were the

1003
00:35:33.460 –> 00:35:34.460
Speaker:
only ones that saw the

1004
00:35:34.460 –> 00:35:35.059
Speaker:
creatures.

1005
00:35:35.059 –> 00:35:37.539
Speaker:
Nobody else seen the creatures.

1006
00:35:37.539 –> 00:35:39.500
Speaker:
And I’ve heard, I’ve heard so
many different versions of the

1007
00:35:39.500 –> 00:35:40.380
Speaker:
story of heard.

1008
00:35:40.380 –> 00:35:42.900
Speaker:
You know, it’s it’s talked about

1009
00:35:42.900 –> 00:35:45.260
Speaker:
a lot among those in UFO, you

1010
00:35:45.260 –> 00:35:46.059
Speaker:
know, lore.

1011
00:35:46.059 –> 00:35:47.300
Speaker:
But what would you say is one of

1012
00:35:47.300 –> 00:35:49.260
Speaker:
the biggest misconceptions about

1013
00:35:49.260 –> 00:35:50.420
Speaker:
about what happened that night

1014
00:35:50.420 –> 00:35:51.420
Speaker:
that you hear over and over and

1015
00:35:51.420 –> 00:35:52.340
Speaker:
you’re just like, that’s not

1016
00:35:52.340 –> 00:35:53.420
Speaker:
what happened.

1017
00:35:54.699 –> 00:35:55.860
Speaker:
Is there something that’s told

1018
00:35:55.860 –> 00:35:57.239
Speaker:
over and you’re just, that’s a

1019
00:35:57.239 –> 00:35:59.420
Speaker:
well, it’s just the, the alcohol

1020
00:35:59.420 –> 00:36:00.019
Speaker:
thing.

1021
00:36:00.019 –> 00:36:02.780
Speaker:
Of course, that’s one of the
main questions I get asked at

1022
00:36:02.780 –> 00:36:05.059
Speaker:
every book thing I do.

1023
00:36:05.059 –> 00:36:06.820
Speaker:
Um, was there alcohol there that
night?

1024
00:36:06.820 –> 00:36:09.619
Speaker:
No, there wasn’t in the police
report.

1025
00:36:09.619 –> 00:36:10.739
Speaker:
No alcohol was there.

1026
00:36:10.739 –> 00:36:12.179
Speaker:
They searched the premises.

1027
00:36:12.179 –> 00:36:15.219
Speaker:
Besides that, my grandmother was
very, very religious.

1028
00:36:15.219 –> 00:36:18.019
Speaker:
She would not have alcohol
around her kids.

1029
00:36:18.019 –> 00:36:20.300
Speaker:
So no, alcohol was not there.

1030
00:36:20.300 –> 00:36:23.829
Speaker:
And that is the that burns me up
when people bring that up,

1031
00:36:23.829 –> 00:36:28.030
Speaker:
because the first thing people
think Kentucky, it’s hillbillies

1032
00:36:28.030 –> 00:36:30.710
Speaker:
and they got a moonshine still
back in there.

1033
00:36:30.710 –> 00:36:33.230
Speaker:
Well, no, they didn’t.

1034
00:36:34.230 –> 00:36:37.269
Speaker:
You know, my dad and Billy Ray
didn’t even live there.

1035
00:36:37.269 –> 00:36:38.710
Speaker:
They were on the road all the
time.

1036
00:36:38.710 –> 00:36:39.590
Speaker:
The only ones that was there

1037
00:36:39.590 –> 00:36:41.429
Speaker:
with my grandmother and Uncle

1038
00:36:41.429 –> 00:36:42.190
Speaker:
Jake.

1039
00:36:42.190 –> 00:36:45.030
Speaker:
And ain’t no way they could have
done a moonshine still.

1040
00:36:45.030 –> 00:36:47.190
Speaker:
My grandmother wouldn’t have
done it anyway.

1041
00:36:47.190 –> 00:36:49.489
Speaker:
And your dad and your Billy Ray

1042
00:36:49.489 –> 00:36:50.869
Speaker:
worked at, uh, worked in

1043
00:36:50.869 –> 00:36:51.349
Speaker:
carnivals.

1044
00:36:51.349 –> 00:36:51.989
Speaker:
Is that right?

1045
00:36:51.989 –> 00:36:52.590
Speaker:
Yes.

1046
00:36:52.590 –> 00:36:52.909
Speaker:
Okay.

1047
00:36:52.909 –> 00:36:53.469
Speaker:
And they worked.

1048
00:36:53.469 –> 00:36:54.949
Speaker:
They were working in one in
Evansville.

1049
00:36:54.949 –> 00:36:56.989
Speaker:
I guess, whenever all of this
was going on.

1050
00:36:56.989 –> 00:36:58.670
Speaker:
It was stationed in Evansville

1051
00:36:58.670 –> 00:37:00.590
Speaker:
that that week weekend or

1052
00:37:00.590 –> 00:37:01.510
Speaker:
something.

1053
00:37:01.510 –> 00:37:01.789
Speaker:
Yep.

1054
00:37:01.789 –> 00:37:03.829
Speaker:
They traveled everywhere.

1055
00:37:03.829 –> 00:37:07.230
Speaker:
And then every was it every year
there’s, uh, the little green

1056
00:37:07.230 –> 00:37:08.550
Speaker:
men days down in Kelly.

1057
00:37:08.550 –> 00:37:10.869
Speaker:
What exactly what goes on down
there?

1058
00:37:10.869 –> 00:37:11.349
Speaker:
What is that?

1059
00:37:11.349 –> 00:37:14.630
Speaker:
Well, there was until Covid hit,
and ever since Covid, they

1060
00:37:14.630 –> 00:37:15.710
Speaker:
stopped doing it.

1061
00:37:15.710 –> 00:37:16.030
Speaker:
Yeah.

1062
00:37:16.030 –> 00:37:17.469
Speaker:
They haven’t started back up.

1063
00:37:17.469 –> 00:37:19.750
Speaker:
I don’t know if it ever is going
to get started back up.

1064
00:37:19.750 –> 00:37:21.389
Speaker:
I think Covid kind of killed it

1065
00:37:21.389 –> 00:37:23.909
Speaker:
because it’s all work and no

1066
00:37:23.909 –> 00:37:25.590
Speaker:
festivals.

1067
00:37:25.590 –> 00:37:26.190
Speaker:
Oh I bet.

1068
00:37:26.190 –> 00:37:31.190
Speaker:
Um, yeah, I mean, it is any
money and work.

1069
00:37:31.190 –> 00:37:33.710
Speaker:
And I think they just kind of

1070
00:37:33.710 –> 00:37:36.170
Speaker:
eased off of it when Covid hit

1071
00:37:36.170 –> 00:37:37.590
Speaker:
and just haven’t tried to do it

1072
00:37:37.590 –> 00:37:37.989
Speaker:
again.

1073
00:37:37.989 –> 00:37:41.309
Speaker:
I don’t know, they’ll try to do
anything this year or not.

1074
00:37:41.309 –> 00:37:43.989
Speaker:
I wish they would because people
really loved it.

1075
00:37:43.989 –> 00:37:46.070
Speaker:
I mean, it was nice little
festival.

1076
00:37:46.070 –> 00:37:48.789
Speaker:
I’ll have to check it out if
they if they do it this year.

1077
00:37:48.789 –> 00:37:50.630
Speaker:
Yeah, it’s pretty cool.

1078
00:37:50.630 –> 00:37:52.389
Speaker:
How are the neighbors and other

1079
00:37:52.389 –> 00:37:53.590
Speaker:
people in the towns around

1080
00:37:53.590 –> 00:37:53.750
Speaker:
there?

1081
00:37:53.750 –> 00:37:56.309
Speaker:
How did they treat your family
after all of this?

1082
00:37:56.309 –> 00:37:58.989
Speaker:
Were they kind of ostracized or

1083
00:37:58.989 –> 00:38:01.829
Speaker:
made fun of or ridiculed, or did

1084
00:38:01.829 –> 00:38:03.030
Speaker:
people finally come around to

1085
00:38:03.030 –> 00:38:03.150
Speaker:
it?

1086
00:38:03.150 –> 00:38:03.750
Speaker:
Or how?

1087
00:38:03.750 –> 00:38:04.789
Speaker:
Well, you know, the people that

1088
00:38:04.789 –> 00:38:06.150
Speaker:
lived around there knew them the

1089
00:38:06.150 –> 00:38:06.789
Speaker:
best.

1090
00:38:06.789 –> 00:38:07.829
Speaker:
They knew better.

1091
00:38:07.829 –> 00:38:10.630
Speaker:
I mean, they knew that something
happened that night.

1092
00:38:10.630 –> 00:38:12.030
Speaker:
They believed my grandmother

1093
00:38:12.030 –> 00:38:14.630
Speaker:
because of who she was for one,

1094
00:38:14.630 –> 00:38:17.309
Speaker:
um, Chief Greenwell, he believed

1095
00:38:17.309 –> 00:38:18.550
Speaker:
it wholeheartedly.

1096
00:38:18.550 –> 00:38:23.519
Speaker:
Another one of the officers,
officer duties or duties or

1097
00:38:23.519 –> 00:38:25.159
Speaker:
whatever his name is.

1098
00:38:25.159 –> 00:38:28.639
Speaker:
Um, he believed it because both
of them had experiences before

1099
00:38:28.639 –> 00:38:30.360
Speaker:
this happened and selves.

1100
00:38:30.360 –> 00:38:32.800
Speaker:
So they wholeheartedly,
heartedly believed it.

1101
00:38:32.800 –> 00:38:34.900
Speaker:
And of course, like I said, the
neighbors believed it because

1102
00:38:34.900 –> 00:38:36.440
Speaker:
they, they knew who they were.

1103
00:38:36.440 –> 00:38:37.320
Speaker:
Right.

1104
00:38:37.320 –> 00:38:40.679
Speaker:
And, um, the only people that
really kind of laughed about it,

1105
00:38:40.679 –> 00:38:43.960
Speaker:
I think was outsiders, like
people that lived in

1106
00:38:43.960 –> 00:38:47.960
Speaker:
Hopkinsville and, you know,
other places kind of made well,

1107
00:38:47.960 –> 00:38:50.800
Speaker:
didn’t kind of didn’t make fun
of it and didn’t believe it.

1108
00:38:50.800 –> 00:38:53.599
Speaker:
And you know, which that’s gonna

1109
00:38:53.599 –> 00:38:55.619
Speaker:
be even today, it’s going to

1110
00:38:55.619 –> 00:38:56.800
Speaker:
happen.

1111
00:38:56.800 –> 00:39:01.019
Speaker:
But yeah, I mean, it’s, it’s
quite a story that, I mean, I, I

1112
00:39:01.019 –> 00:39:03.039
Speaker:
could see why your dad was kind
of like, we’re not telling

1113
00:39:03.039 –> 00:39:05.320
Speaker:
anybody anything because this is
just, we’re going to be

1114
00:39:05.320 –> 00:39:09.159
Speaker:
ridiculed and you can’t it’s a
no win situation, honestly.

1115
00:39:09.159 –> 00:39:11.679
Speaker:
Um, if you have something like
that happen, they didn’t have

1116
00:39:11.679 –> 00:39:14.559
Speaker:
cameras to take pictures of, of
what was going on.

1117
00:39:14.559 –> 00:39:17.719
Speaker:
So they don’t have any proof and
right.

1118
00:39:17.719 –> 00:39:18.639
Speaker:
And they I probably wouldn’t

1119
00:39:18.639 –> 00:39:19.440
Speaker:
have thought about taking

1120
00:39:19.440 –> 00:39:21.099
Speaker:
pictures even if they had of

1121
00:39:21.099 –> 00:39:23.079
Speaker:
because well, yeah, to them that

1122
00:39:23.079 –> 00:39:24.079
Speaker:
was terrifying.

1123
00:39:24.079 –> 00:39:27.119
Speaker:
I mean, you guys think, okay,
Matt, think about this.

1124
00:39:27.119 –> 00:39:29.480
Speaker:
If you’re sitting at home,
right?

1125
00:39:29.480 –> 00:39:31.440
Speaker:
I like to think of it this way.

1126
00:39:31.440 –> 00:39:32.960
Speaker:
If you’re sitting at home and

1127
00:39:32.960 –> 00:39:33.980
Speaker:
you’re sitting there watching

1128
00:39:33.980 –> 00:39:37.119
Speaker:
TV, not bothering nobody, just

1129
00:39:37.119 –> 00:39:38.840
Speaker:
taking it easy and all of a

1130
00:39:38.840 –> 00:39:40.159
Speaker:
sudden here you look toward one

1131
00:39:40.159 –> 00:39:41.679
Speaker:
of your windows and there stands

1132
00:39:41.679 –> 00:39:42.880
Speaker:
a little three foot tall, being

1133
00:39:42.880 –> 00:39:44.280
Speaker:
with big yellow eyes looking in

1134
00:39:44.280 –> 00:39:44.679
Speaker:
at you.

1135
00:39:44.679 –> 00:39:45.039
Speaker:
Oh, yeah.

1136
00:39:45.039 –> 00:39:46.239
Speaker:
Are you going to do.

1137
00:39:46.239 –> 00:39:46.840
Speaker:
Oh, I’m out.

1138
00:39:46.840 –> 00:39:47.480
Speaker:
I’m, I’m.

1139
00:39:47.480 –> 00:39:48.679
Speaker:
I’m gone.

1140
00:39:48.679 –> 00:39:49.920
Speaker:
Exactly.

1141
00:39:49.920 –> 00:39:50.400
Speaker:
Exactly.

1142
00:39:50.400 –> 00:39:51.480
Speaker:
I’m not grabbing a camera.

1143
00:39:51.480 –> 00:39:53.119
Speaker:
I’m probably just gonna run.

1144
00:39:53.119 –> 00:39:54.559
Speaker:
Exactly.

1145
00:39:54.559 –> 00:39:57.260
Speaker:
And you know, that kills me
also, because people will tell

1146
00:39:57.260 –> 00:40:00.400
Speaker:
me, oh, if I were in that
situation, I would have invited

1147
00:40:00.400 –> 00:40:03.039
Speaker:
them in the house, or I would
have shook their head.

1148
00:40:03.039 –> 00:40:03.400
Speaker:
Right.

1149
00:40:03.400 –> 00:40:05.280
Speaker:
And I’m like, no, you wouldn’t

1150
00:40:05.280 –> 00:40:06.159
Speaker:
if you would have dropped

1151
00:40:06.159 –> 00:40:07.840
Speaker:
everything, peed your pants, ran

1152
00:40:07.840 –> 00:40:08.760
Speaker:
and hide.

1153
00:40:10.000 –> 00:40:12.059
Speaker:
It does make you wonder what
they were doing because, I mean,

1154
00:40:12.059 –> 00:40:13.920
Speaker:
they just they were they kept
coming, even though they were

1155
00:40:13.920 –> 00:40:14.639
Speaker:
being shot at.

1156
00:40:14.639 –> 00:40:17.050
Speaker:
They weren’t really it didn’t
seem like they were attacking

1157
00:40:17.050 –> 00:40:20.090
Speaker:
necessarily, but they were just
like curious or something.

1158
00:40:20.090 –> 00:40:21.130
Speaker:
Um, yes.

1159
00:40:21.130 –> 00:40:21.449
Speaker:
Weird.

1160
00:40:21.449 –> 00:40:22.530
Speaker:
And that’s what my grandmother

1161
00:40:22.530 –> 00:40:24.170
Speaker:
was thinking too, because my

1162
00:40:24.170 –> 00:40:25.250
Speaker:
grandmother, being the person

1163
00:40:25.250 –> 00:40:26.530
Speaker:
she was, she was soft hearted

1164
00:40:26.530 –> 00:40:27.409
Speaker:
about everything.

1165
00:40:27.409 –> 00:40:27.889
Speaker:
Right.

1166
00:40:27.889 –> 00:40:31.409
Speaker:
And she thought, well, what if

1167
00:40:31.409 –> 00:40:32.530
Speaker:
these little things were in

1168
00:40:32.530 –> 00:40:33.050
Speaker:
trouble?

1169
00:40:33.050 –> 00:40:34.809
Speaker:
What if they needed help?

1170
00:40:34.809 –> 00:40:40.170
Speaker:
Well, my dad, being the man he
was, was like, we don’t know

1171
00:40:40.170 –> 00:40:40.769
Speaker:
what these are.

1172
00:40:40.769 –> 00:40:42.369
Speaker:
We don’t know what they want.

1173
00:40:42.369 –> 00:40:46.170
Speaker:
I’m not letting them in the
house to say, you know, well,

1174
00:40:46.170 –> 00:40:48.570
Speaker:
it’s not like you guys can help
fix their ship or something if

1175
00:40:48.570 –> 00:40:49.730
Speaker:
it’s broken down anyway.

1176
00:40:49.730 –> 00:40:52.329
Speaker:
So it’s like, there’s no good
that can come from this.

1177
00:40:52.329 –> 00:40:53.610
Speaker:
Exactly.

1178
00:40:53.610 –> 00:40:55.889
Speaker:
You know, why are these little
creatures, you know, are they

1179
00:40:55.889 –> 00:40:56.769
Speaker:
here to eat us?

1180
00:40:56.769 –> 00:40:57.090
Speaker:
What?

1181
00:40:57.090 –> 00:40:57.449
Speaker:
You know?

1182
00:40:57.449 –> 00:40:58.849
Speaker:
Oh. No kidding.

1183
00:40:58.849 –> 00:41:01.130
Speaker:
So, you know, that was his
thing.

1184
00:41:01.130 –> 00:41:03.369
Speaker:
Shoot first and ask questions
later.

1185
00:41:03.369 –> 00:41:05.730
Speaker:
Yeah, I can I can definitely
understand.

1186
00:41:05.730 –> 00:41:07.329
Speaker:
What advice would you have for

1187
00:41:07.329 –> 00:41:09.010
Speaker:
someone who may have a story to

1188
00:41:09.010 –> 00:41:11.010
Speaker:
tell, but they’re afraid to do

1189
00:41:11.010 –> 00:41:12.170
Speaker:
so because they’re afraid of

1190
00:41:12.170 –> 00:41:12.929
Speaker:
being ridiculed.

1191
00:41:12.929 –> 00:41:15.289
Speaker:
What advice would you give for
that person?

1192
00:41:15.289 –> 00:41:19.210
Speaker:
Just find somebody that’s going
to listen to you, because that’s

1193
00:41:19.210 –> 00:41:20.050
Speaker:
a big thing.

1194
00:41:20.050 –> 00:41:21.809
Speaker:
Because every time I go

1195
00:41:21.809 –> 00:41:25.610
Speaker:
somewhere to do a book thing or

1196
00:41:25.610 –> 00:41:28.769
Speaker:
whatever, um, um, I have people

1197
00:41:28.769 –> 00:41:29.929
Speaker:
come up to me and tell me a

1198
00:41:29.929 –> 00:41:33.849
Speaker:
story never fails because I will

1199
00:41:33.849 –> 00:41:34.730
Speaker:
listen.

1200
00:41:34.730 –> 00:41:39.530
Speaker:
Just find somebody that will
listen to you and, you know, not

1201
00:41:39.530 –> 00:41:40.530
Speaker:
laugh at you.

1202
00:41:40.530 –> 00:41:40.769
Speaker:
Yeah.

1203
00:41:40.769 –> 00:41:41.909
Speaker:
There’s going to be that person

1204
00:41:41.909 –> 00:41:43.090
Speaker:
out there that’s not going to

1205
00:41:43.090 –> 00:41:44.650
Speaker:
laugh at you, believe me,

1206
00:41:44.650 –> 00:41:46.849
Speaker:
because you would be surprised

1207
00:41:46.849 –> 00:41:47.809
Speaker:
that people that are walking

1208
00:41:47.809 –> 00:41:49.929
Speaker:
around out here that have a

1209
00:41:49.929 –> 00:41:52.530
Speaker:
story, that is afraid to say

1210
00:41:52.530 –> 00:41:53.530
Speaker:
anything.

1211
00:41:53.530 –> 00:41:55.809
Speaker:
I’d say most everybody has some
sort of weird story.

1212
00:41:55.809 –> 00:41:58.130
Speaker:
They’ve they’ve had that they
just keep to themselves.

1213
00:41:58.130 –> 00:41:58.969
Speaker:
Everybody does.

1214
00:41:58.969 –> 00:41:59.690
Speaker:
Yes, yes.

1215
00:41:59.690 –> 00:42:02.250
Speaker:
Whether it’s lights in the sky.

1216
00:42:02.250 –> 00:42:04.969
Speaker:
Um, you know, I had a girl that
I used to work with.

1217
00:42:04.969 –> 00:42:09.530
Speaker:
She used to go to the next town
over to a community college at

1218
00:42:09.530 –> 00:42:11.610
Speaker:
night time after work.

1219
00:42:11.610 –> 00:42:15.260
Speaker:
And she said one night after
work, there was these red lights

1220
00:42:15.260 –> 00:42:16.980
Speaker:
following her, you know.

1221
00:42:16.980 –> 00:42:17.420
Speaker:
Yeah.

1222
00:42:17.420 –> 00:42:19.099
Speaker:
The from town to town.

1223
00:42:19.099 –> 00:42:20.699
Speaker:
This is country.

1224
00:42:20.699 –> 00:42:25.460
Speaker:
So, you know, this is a big long
country forty five minute drive.

1225
00:42:25.460 –> 00:42:29.139
Speaker:
And so, you know, she had these
red lights following her.

1226
00:42:29.139 –> 00:42:30.139
Speaker:
She didn’t know what they were.

1227
00:42:30.139 –> 00:42:31.420
Speaker:
They scared her to death.

1228
00:42:31.420 –> 00:42:32.500
Speaker:
She couldn’t tell what it was.

1229
00:42:32.500 –> 00:42:34.099
Speaker:
It wasn’t a car.

1230
00:42:34.099 –> 00:42:36.860
Speaker:
You know, a car wouldn’t have
red lights in the front of it.

1231
00:42:36.860 –> 00:42:38.539
Speaker:
And you know, what was it?

1232
00:42:38.539 –> 00:42:39.940
Speaker:
You know, if I have had people

1233
00:42:39.940 –> 00:42:43.900
Speaker:
tell me they seen something just

1234
00:42:43.900 –> 00:42:45.340
Speaker:
come out of the sky and just

1235
00:42:45.340 –> 00:42:48.079
Speaker:
come right down in the street,

1236
00:42:48.079 –> 00:42:49.780
Speaker:
you know, just crazy stuff like

1237
00:42:49.780 –> 00:42:50.300
Speaker:
that.

1238
00:42:50.300 –> 00:42:53.539
Speaker:
You know, I’ve seen lights that
can’t be explained.

1239
00:42:53.539 –> 00:42:57.219
Speaker:
Everybody, just about everybody
has had some kind of experience,

1240
00:42:57.219 –> 00:43:02.099
Speaker:
whether it be something like
that or extraterrestrial.

1241
00:43:02.099 –> 00:43:04.139
Speaker:
I mean, uh, paranormal.

1242
00:43:04.139 –> 00:43:05.579
Speaker:
Um, I’ve had people come to me

1243
00:43:05.579 –> 00:43:07.019
Speaker:
and tell me about Bigfoot

1244
00:43:07.019 –> 00:43:08.380
Speaker:
stories.

1245
00:43:08.380 –> 00:43:10.059
Speaker:
It’s a, it’s a whole big world
out there.

1246
00:43:10.059 –> 00:43:11.820
Speaker:
There’s all kinds of stuff going
on.

1247
00:43:11.820 –> 00:43:12.860
Speaker:
It’s fascinating.

1248
00:43:12.860 –> 00:43:13.780
Speaker:
Yeah, I agree.

1249
00:43:13.780 –> 00:43:15.099
Speaker:
What makes it exciting?

1250
00:43:15.099 –> 00:43:16.019
Speaker:
That’s right and I agree.

1251
00:43:16.019 –> 00:43:17.019
Speaker:
I think that’s great advice.

1252
00:43:17.019 –> 00:43:18.539
Speaker:
Just find somebody who will
listen.

1253
00:43:18.539 –> 00:43:19.920
Speaker:
And everyone else can just kind

1254
00:43:19.920 –> 00:43:21.340
Speaker:
of slowly wander away and shake

1255
00:43:21.340 –> 00:43:21.780
Speaker:
their heads.

1256
00:43:21.780 –> 00:43:23.539
Speaker:
But talk, talk, talk to the

1257
00:43:23.539 –> 00:43:24.460
Speaker:
people that want to listen to

1258
00:43:24.460 –> 00:43:25.219
Speaker:
it.

1259
00:43:25.219 –> 00:43:27.139
Speaker:
Exactly.

1260
00:43:27.139 –> 00:43:28.219
Speaker:
Geraldine, I want to thank you

1261
00:43:28.219 –> 00:43:29.260
Speaker:
again for taking time out of

1262
00:43:29.260 –> 00:43:31.300
Speaker:
your day to tell this fantastic

1263
00:43:31.300 –> 00:43:31.739
Speaker:
story.

1264
00:43:31.739 –> 00:43:33.219
Speaker:
I really appreciate it.

1265
00:43:33.219 –> 00:43:35.019
Speaker:
Well, I appreciate you asking.

1266
00:43:35.019 –> 00:43:36.539
Speaker:
It’s like I said, it’s a good
story.

1267
00:43:36.539 –> 00:43:39.619
Speaker:
And any day you can talk about
the Green Man is a good day.

1268
00:43:48.139 –> 00:43:49.820
Speaker:
She is such a gifted
storyteller.

1269
00:43:49.820 –> 00:43:51.860
Speaker:
I could just listen to her for
hours.

1270
00:43:51.860 –> 00:43:53.139
Speaker:
Love it.

1271
00:43:53.139 –> 00:43:55.780
Speaker:
If you’re interested in picking
up any of Geraldine’s books,

1272
00:43:55.780 –> 00:43:58.420
Speaker:
check out my show notes, which
you can find at River City

1273
00:43:58.420 –> 00:43:59.619
Speaker:
Mystery dot com.

1274
00:44:00.940 –> 00:44:03.420
Speaker:
You’ll find all the links there.

1275
00:44:03.420 –> 00:44:06.579
Speaker:
Thanks so much for listening, I
appreciate it, and until next

1276
00:44:06.579 –> 00:44:08.139
Speaker:
time, take care.