Interview with Joe Weigant

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And we’re looking around the
house and I see two horribly

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hideous looking little dog like
creatures in this house.

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And my buddy, he sees them too,

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and they look really nasty,

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vicious.

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You know, they have, like,
disjointed elbows.

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Like their front legs look like
a Cloverfield.

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You know, the elbows are all
kind of jacked up, but the head

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is kind of like upside down.

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It kind of looks almost like a

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person, but almost kind of like

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a dog or almost like a wolf or

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something.

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And the, uh, the torso is really
the thin when the ribs are

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sticking out and it’s got, uh,
spine bones sticking out of it.

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It’s really nasty.

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And so I’m like, well, what the

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heck are these things doing in

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the house?

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You’re listening to River City

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Mystery podcast, the show that

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delves into the Evansville and

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surrounding Tri-State area’s

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mysteries, including unsolved

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crimes, murders, and

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disappearances.

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A show that isn’t afraid to jump

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down the rabbit hole to

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investigate reports of local

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hauntings, sightings of UFOs and

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cryptids, among other paranormal

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phenomena.

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With your host, co-founder of

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the Humans of Evansville

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Facebook page.

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Law office worker by day.

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Insomniac researcher of the
unknown by night.

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Matt Deig.

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Welcome to episode 6.

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I’m joined by Joe Weigant,

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founder of EPIC, which is an

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acronym for Evansville

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Paranormal Investigations and

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Consulting.

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Joe retired as a detective after
twenty three years with the

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Evansville Police Department.

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He hosted the World Beyond Radio

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show, where he interviewed other

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paranormal investigators,

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psychics, tarot readers, among

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others.

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He’s a sixth degree black belt
in Okinawan Kempo and a martial

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arts instructor at Club Bushido.

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Every year, Joe leads tours of

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Waverly Hills Sanatorium in

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Louisville, Kentucky.

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He’s a psychic and spirit

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communicator, and Joe Owens,

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Tri-State Holistic Wellness,

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where he uses a combination of

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energy work known as Reiki

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tuning forks and other emotional

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and physical healing modalities

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to achieve holistic healing and

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well-being.

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And I could go on, but that’s
enough to get me started here.

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So thank you for joining me
today, Joe.

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Hey, thank you Matt.

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It’s a pleasure to be here.

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I love doing these radio shows.

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And I, I actually loved it
whenever I ran mine.

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But, you know, sometimes those

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things don’t get to work out

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forever.

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But thank you and for inviting
me on here.

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This is this is a great
privilege.

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Well, we’ll start with epic,
which is Evansville Paranormal

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Investigations and Consulting.

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Um, which other than sounding
awesome, what exactly what

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exactly is that?

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And what do you do?

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Um, I get a lot of calls from

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people who want to join the

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group, and they want to go out

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and try to catch pictures and

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get recordings and, and, uh, do

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a lot of the EVP type stuff that

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they see on TV, but that’s not

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really what, um, my, you know,

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what, what epic does, uh, and

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I’ve had other people that have

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worked with me over time, but

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just trying to get scheduling,

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working together with with third

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party folks.

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And sometimes it just, it’s
really cumbersome.

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So it’s, it’s normal.

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Normally it’s just my wife and
myself and people will will get

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Ahold of me either because
they’ve seen me on the website

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or they’ve seen me on the travel
channel or whatever it is.

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And they will, uh, they’ll
describe to me the problems that

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they’re having in their house,
you know, foot stomping and

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voices and the shadow moving
around the halls and the kids

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and dogs are freaking out.

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And, you know, sometimes it’s
even things like, you know, the

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salt salt shakers being thrown
around the room and pictures

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flying off the walls.

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So, um, you know, my wife and I

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will go out and what I, what I

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honestly do, and it looks very

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boring from the outside looking

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in.

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I couldn’t do a TV show on what
I do because the camera guy

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would fall asleep.

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I honestly, I just walk into the

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room and I open up and I let my

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senses just kind of, you know,

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float free.

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And I just start asking
questions about what’s going on

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in the house, and things will
start appearing to me and I

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start getting the hints of
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And, and then, uh, it, uh, about

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ninety nine point four percent

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of the time, it’s usually some,

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uh, cranky dead person who

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doesn’t want to give up his

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house.

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Mhm.

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And, or it’s, uh, you know, some
other disturbed person who has

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passed on and just doesn’t want
to let go of something or who

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is, uh, attached to a person,
place or thing.

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And so then what I do is I, I

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cross them over and then I do an

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energetic cleansing of the

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house.

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Uh, sometimes we smudge and, um,
then after that, the house calms

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down, everything’s settled up
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that’s basically what we do.

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Um, I, I, I used to have, um,

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business cards and I think I,

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when I, uh, had a website for

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that, I, I would refer to it as

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a paranormal resolution

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resolution specialist because a

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lot of people are really

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interested in the paranormal,

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but they’re interested in it

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from the scientific point of

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view.

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Mhm.

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About saying, what can we

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actually capture that can lead

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us to some kind of indication

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that there is some kind of a

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life after physical death and

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demise.

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And while I was a member of
groups like that, what I see on

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TV and what I’ve seen from other
groups like that is that, you

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know, they will arrive on scene
and set up gobs of equipment

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and, and they’ll spend hours and
hours, sometimes a couple of

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days trying to capture some
evidence of what is, you know,

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something that will meet what
the client is complaining about.

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Right.

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And then at the end of it, a lot
of the groups will go, yeah, you

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wouldn’t believe it.

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We caught this voice.

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You know, we’ve been listening
to these recordings for two

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weeks now, and we got this one
voice on this one answer where

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the, you know, the guy said, get
out or leave me alone or buzz

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off or whatever.

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And then that’s it.

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That’s the end of the thing.

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See you later.

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Yes.

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Hey.

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You know.

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Yeah.

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Your house really is screwed up.

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You’re right.

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There’s something in here.

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We think that there might be
some evidence that something

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could possibly be going on, but
we really don’t know what it is

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because there’s no scientific
evidence and blah, blah, blah.

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But, hey, but thanks for letting
us come out.

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And I’m going.

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You know, that’s not enough for
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People are complaining.

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They need their problem solved.

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That’s what I do, is solve the
problems.

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And so I’m not disparaging any
group that’s going out there.

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Everybody needs to gather up the
evidence.

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And I think everyone needs to

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know the answers of what’s

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really happening and what’s

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going on.

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But I just talked to dead people
and tell them, you know, hey,

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you got to go.

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There’s a, there’s a, a path for
you to travel.

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And you’re, you’re stuck on this
rock and you got to go.

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And so not only do I allow the
decedent to experience their own

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peace and to further their
pursuit of their path in the

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overall existence of the the
life of their spirit.

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But I also bring peace and
resolution to the people who are

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living in the house, that all
they really want to do is just

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redo the bathroom, you know,
because oftentimes it, most of

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these, uh, you know, let’s just
say, for example, and let me

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just conjure up something here.

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You got a guy who dies at the

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age of seventy eight and he’s

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been living in that house since

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he got married at the age of

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twenty.

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So he has spent the entirety of

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his of his existence in that

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house, and he bought it when it

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was just a shack, and he spent

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his whole life putting

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everything he’s got into fixing

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up this house and making it

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better.

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Right.

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And, you know, retired twenty
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of money to fix it.

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So the carpet stated the
cabinets are, you know, still

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nineteen eighty three.

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And, you know, but he’s he’s
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He’s lived there his whole life.

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His wife is gone.

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And now his time to go and bam,
he’s dead.

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He unzips the meat suit and he
steps out.

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And, you know, within six
months, the kids come in and

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clean out the house and put it
up for sale, because they’d

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rather have the money than to
save the old man’s house, right?

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So some twenty year olds move in
there and, you know, let’s just

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say, you know, they they might
have a young kid with them.

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Uh, they might not have a

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lifestyle that might be pleasing

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to the seventy eight year old

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man.

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What is here?

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He is in his spirit.

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In his mind, he still is as
alive as he was before he

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unzipped the meat suit.

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And so he still is under the

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impression, yes, this is my

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house.

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And sure, I don’t have a body,

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so I can’t interact with it

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anymore.

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But I’m not leaving my house
behind.

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Mhm.

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And even, even whenever the

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light comes in and it gives him

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the opportunity to move on, he’s

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like, but no, I can’t leave my

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house.

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I have to watch after this.

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So then, you know, the light
kind of goes away.

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And he’s like, no, I’m going to
stay right here because this is

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where my home is.

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And then the younger couple
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the walls and pulling up the
carpets, and they start ripping

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down the cabinets and the old
man goes, hey, hey, hey.

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Right.

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Hold on.

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You know, I remember putting
those cabinets in by hand.

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And then next thing you know,
the salt shaker comes flying

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across the room.

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And then they call me up and
they go, oh, I have a demon.

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Like, no, you don’t have a
demon.

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You, you you don’t have a demon.

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I’ve been doing this for, for

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years, and I’ve only ever run

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into maybe three things that we

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would even apply the name demon

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to.

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Okay.

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And so, you know, you don’t have
a demon.

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You got a cranky old guy.

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And so I come over there and
tell him, okay, dude, seriously,

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it’s not your house anymore.

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Um, I’m going to call the light

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down, and it’s time for you to

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go in.

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And this is where you need to
go.

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Trust me.

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All the people you love are
there.

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Nothing that you love is here.

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This is where you have to go.

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You have to put this chapter of
the life of your spirit behind

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and become something new.

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The next time you have to come
back as a different person.

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Next time, you have to go in
here and go on to the next

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section of your travels.

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Whatever that is.

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You’ll understand it when you

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get there and they cross in the

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house settles down, the people

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are happy.

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I do an energetic cleansing of
the place.

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And then we’re out.

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We’re gone.

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Well, why do you think some
people decide to stay?

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Stick around and others move on

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without some sort of

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intervention.

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Like from someone like you?

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Um, there are a number of
reasons.

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And I teach this whenever I, I
go see people’s homes or like if

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I teach classes on paranormal
things like that.

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Some of the reasons are number
one, um, they’ve been taught

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their whole life that after you
die, God comes down and he

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judges your whole life.

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Mhm.

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And you’re either going to go to
hell forever, or you’re going to

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go to heaven, and you’re going
to play a harp on a cloud with a

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white, a white robe, and you’re
going to sing holy, holy, Holy

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all day, or you’re going to go
to hell and you’re going to get

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punished and everything’s going
to be miserable.

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And so they don’t want to they
don’t want to experience that

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judgment, because there’s no
human being that’s ever been

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alive on earth that can look
back on his life and say, I

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never made a mistake.

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I never did anything wrong.

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I never I mean.

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none of us can.

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And that’s the whole point of

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human life is that, yeah, we

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come here in order to learn

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these lives and in order to have

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these experiences because it’s,

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you know, it’s what we have to

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do.

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So a lot of these people don’t

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want to go into the light

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because they’re afraid of the

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judgment, okay?

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Because they’re not entirely
certain that they were good

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enough to get to heaven.

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And so they’re like, I’m not
going in there because I’m not

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going to go to hell.

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And some of them, they don’t

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want to go in because of an

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attachment to a person, place or

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thing.

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They become attached to, hey,
look, you know, this is my

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thirty two Ford and I’ve been,
I’ve been sanding and painting

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and, and working on this thing
my whole life.

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I’ve won a bunch of shows with
it.

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I’m not leaving this car.

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I don’t want something bad to
happen to it.

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And also have a choice of

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staying here to see what happens

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to their favorite car or their

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house.

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Or I’ve had a case like this

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before where the, um, there was

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an older couple in a house and

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one of them died before the

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other.

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And so the one who died first,
um, it was the old, it was the,

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uh, the husband.

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Mhm.

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He died first as as normally
happens, men die first.

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Right.

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I joke around and I say, you
know, the reason men die first

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is because we want to.

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So, so so the the guy died first
and he said, no, I’m not going

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to go because my wife is alive.

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I’m going to sit here and I’m

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going to I’m going to stay along

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with her.

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Well, she, being in flesh, still

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was unaware of these kinds of

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events transpiring.

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So she lived out the remaining
years of her life.

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Uh, the kids decided to put her
in a home somewhere.

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She soon after, therefore, uh,

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unzipped the meat suit and went

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on.

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But the guy, um, you know, he
had still stayed behind.

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She died.

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And she’s like, okay, I’m ready
to go be with Jesus.

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And she went right on in and he
got left behind here.

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And so he was stomping up and
down the halls in this house.

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And, um, he wasn’t entirely
pleased at, you know, being at

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the age that he was when he
went, he wasn’t pleased because

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of the culture and the time
period that he was raised in.

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A young lesbian couple had moved

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into his house and had their

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kids there.

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Okay.

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And he wasn’t really on board
with that kind of thing.

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Right.

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And so he was stomping around

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the house, and you could hear

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him moving up and down the

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halls.

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And I had to say, buddy, this
ain’t for you no more, right?

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Look, I know, I know you’ve
lived in this house for forty

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eight years, but it’s time for
you gotta go.

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And so, you know, I was able to
get him to move along.

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And look, here’s your wife.

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She’s over here on this other
side.

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You have to go there to be with.

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And once he realized, oh, you
know, jeez, I found my wife now.

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Now he can go.

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And so the house immediately
calmed down.

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Everything was cool.

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And and we left.

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So there’s, there’s another
reason why sometimes people

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don’t go and you’ll see this at
places like Gettysburg and, uh,

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Antietam and some of the other
Civil War battlefields is in the

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midst of battle.

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You know, they say you never
hear the bullet that kills you.

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You can hear all the other ones
zipping around you, but the one

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that gets you, you’re never
going to hear it.

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Well, sometimes they their life

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is snatched out of them so

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quickly that they don’t realize

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they’re dead.

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Or they do.

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And there’s a there’s this, this

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thing among brothers in the

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military.

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Like, I’m not leaving my buddy
behind.

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We’re never going to leave a man
behind.

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And so they’re like, boom, they
get shot.

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They’re immediately just,

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they’re dead at the age of

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00:14:21.879 –> 00:14:22.919
Speaker:
twenty.

437
00:14:22.919 –> 00:14:24.960
Speaker:
And they go, look, I’m not
leaving my buddy behind.

438
00:14:24.960 –> 00:14:28.159
Speaker:
I gotta watch after my, my, my
swim buddy, you know?

439
00:14:28.159 –> 00:14:32.639
Speaker:
And so they just don’t go, um,
sometimes.

440
00:14:32.639 –> 00:14:35.399
Speaker:
And we’ve seen this, um, there’s

441
00:14:35.399 –> 00:14:38.519
Speaker:
a hotel down in Louisville

442
00:14:38.519 –> 00:14:40.120
Speaker:
pretty famous for having a

443
00:14:40.120 –> 00:14:41.320
Speaker:
haunting there.

444
00:14:41.320 –> 00:14:46.279
Speaker:
Um, the, uh, couple a young

445
00:14:46.279 –> 00:14:48.919
Speaker:
couple years and years ago got

446
00:14:48.919 –> 00:14:51.580
Speaker:
married and the, the brand new

447
00:14:51.580 –> 00:14:54.799
Speaker:
husband, uh, somehow don’t know,

448
00:14:54.799 –> 00:14:56.240
Speaker:
but he fell down the elevator

449
00:14:56.240 –> 00:14:56.759
Speaker:
shaft.

450
00:14:56.759 –> 00:15:01.600
Speaker:
Oh, no. And she found out and
dived in after him.

451
00:15:01.600 –> 00:15:02.600
Speaker:
Okay.

452
00:15:02.600 –> 00:15:05.679
Speaker:
And so you can still see her
there in her wedding dress in

453
00:15:05.679 –> 00:15:07.799
Speaker:
the hotel down in in Louisville.

454
00:15:07.799 –> 00:15:08.639
Speaker:
Oh. Some people.

455
00:15:08.639 –> 00:15:10.639
Speaker:
Yeah, there have been sightings
of her.

456
00:15:10.639 –> 00:15:15.240
Speaker:
And so you have that kind of an
episode where that’s just not

457
00:15:15.240 –> 00:15:16.440
Speaker:
going to happen.

458
00:15:16.440 –> 00:15:17.840
Speaker:
So so I mean, in situations like

459
00:15:17.840 –> 00:15:19.960
Speaker:
that, where you are, are these

460
00:15:19.960 –> 00:15:21.440
Speaker:
people souls just constantly

461
00:15:21.440 –> 00:15:22.720
Speaker:
reliving, jumping down an

462
00:15:22.720 –> 00:15:23.519
Speaker:
elevator shaft?

463
00:15:23.519 –> 00:15:26.679
Speaker:
Or is this like a, some sort of
a imprint, like a spiritual

464
00:15:26.679 –> 00:15:28.159
Speaker:
imprint on space?

465
00:15:28.159 –> 00:15:29.279
Speaker:
Or like, what do you think is

466
00:15:29.279 –> 00:15:30.480
Speaker:
going on there when you, when

467
00:15:30.480 –> 00:15:31.960
Speaker:
people are seeing like a lady in

468
00:15:31.960 –> 00:15:34.350
Speaker:
a wedding dress jumping down an

469
00:15:34.350 –> 00:15:35.870
Speaker:
elevator shaft.

470
00:15:35.870 –> 00:15:38.710
Speaker:
Um, well, here’s the thing
there.

471
00:15:38.710 –> 00:15:40.830
Speaker:
Like we said, spiritual imprint.

472
00:15:40.830 –> 00:15:45.509
Speaker:
Whenever I go into a house, um,
there is a different energetic

473
00:15:45.509 –> 00:15:49.590
Speaker:
feel to whether this is a
residual print or residual

474
00:15:49.590 –> 00:15:55.690
Speaker:
energy, or if it’s an actual
active person who’s actually in

475
00:15:55.690 –> 00:16:01.490
Speaker:
the building, or what often
happens as well is they will,

476
00:16:01.490 –> 00:16:06.029
Speaker:
they will die, they will then go
into the light, but then choose

477
00:16:06.029 –> 00:16:09.509
Speaker:
to come back voluntarily to
visit their relatives.

478
00:16:09.509 –> 00:16:09.830
Speaker:
Mhm.

479
00:16:09.830 –> 00:16:10.789
Speaker:
Okay.

480
00:16:10.789 –> 00:16:13.190
Speaker:
And so that is entirely
possible.

481
00:16:13.190 –> 00:16:16.990
Speaker:
And because they’re coming from
the other side of the veil, they

482
00:16:16.990 –> 00:16:19.669
Speaker:
have more power to visit with.

483
00:16:19.669 –> 00:16:21.909
Speaker:
So if you’re just a spirit

484
00:16:21.909 –> 00:16:23.830
Speaker:
caught in a like a place like

485
00:16:23.830 –> 00:16:24.750
Speaker:
Waverly Hills.

486
00:16:24.750 –> 00:16:25.309
Speaker:
Okay.

487
00:16:25.309 –> 00:16:26.870
Speaker:
Mhm.

488
00:16:26.870 –> 00:16:30.230
Speaker:
Um, you have very little energy

489
00:16:30.230 –> 00:16:32.669
Speaker:
to tap into in order to make an

490
00:16:32.669 –> 00:16:33.470
Speaker:
appearance.

491
00:16:33.470 –> 00:16:35.710
Speaker:
So, which is why we see a lot of
shadows.

492
00:16:35.710 –> 00:16:37.269
Speaker:
And you’ll see that on on some

493
00:16:37.269 –> 00:16:39.789
Speaker:
of these TV shows on, on TV, you

494
00:16:39.789 –> 00:16:41.149
Speaker:
know, like Ghost adventures and,

495
00:16:41.149 –> 00:16:42.190
Speaker:
and some of these other shows

496
00:16:42.190 –> 00:16:42.990
Speaker:
like that where they’ll,

497
00:16:42.990 –> 00:16:44.830
Speaker:
they’ll, they’ll capture video

498
00:16:44.830 –> 00:16:46.149
Speaker:
of a shadow moving across a

499
00:16:46.149 –> 00:16:46.549
Speaker:
hall.

500
00:16:46.549 –> 00:16:47.669
Speaker:
Right.

501
00:16:47.669 –> 00:16:50.389
Speaker:
Well, that’s a shadow because

502
00:16:50.389 –> 00:16:52.429
Speaker:
there’s not enough energy for

503
00:16:52.429 –> 00:16:54.870
Speaker:
them to actually produce a

504
00:16:54.870 –> 00:16:57.509
Speaker:
clothed image of themselves in

505
00:16:57.509 –> 00:16:58.909
Speaker:
body in order for you to look

506
00:16:58.909 –> 00:16:59.549
Speaker:
at.

507
00:16:59.549 –> 00:17:00.950
Speaker:
So they’re pulling that.

508
00:17:00.950 –> 00:17:02.710
Speaker:
That’s why we get the cold spots
in the basement.

509
00:17:02.710 –> 00:17:05.029
Speaker:
So we get cold spots in hot
rooms or whatever.

510
00:17:05.029 –> 00:17:06.009
Speaker:
They’re actually pulling

511
00:17:06.009 –> 00:17:08.210
Speaker:
atmospheric energy in to try to

512
00:17:08.210 –> 00:17:10.589
Speaker:
create enough energy to manifest

513
00:17:10.589 –> 00:17:13.309
Speaker:
a visage of themselves in order

514
00:17:13.309 –> 00:17:15.990
Speaker:
to allow us to see them as a

515
00:17:15.990 –> 00:17:17.109
Speaker:
contact.

516
00:17:17.109 –> 00:17:19.269
Speaker:
And so I, sometimes the most

517
00:17:19.269 –> 00:17:20.390
Speaker:
they can conjure up is just

518
00:17:20.390 –> 00:17:21.630
Speaker:
enough to make a dark spot in

519
00:17:21.630 –> 00:17:22.309
Speaker:
the room.

520
00:17:22.309 –> 00:17:23.670
Speaker:
And then we go, oh my God, it’s
a demon.

521
00:17:23.670 –> 00:17:24.109
Speaker:
It’s a demon.

522
00:17:24.109 –> 00:17:25.150
Speaker:
It’s like, no, it’s Uncle Ned.

523
00:17:25.150 –> 00:17:26.670
Speaker:
I’m here to try to tell you
something.

524
00:17:26.670 –> 00:17:27.670
Speaker:
Okay?

525
00:17:27.670 –> 00:17:29.529
Speaker:
And is that is that why, like

526
00:17:29.529 –> 00:17:30.859
Speaker:
evp’s electronic voice

527
00:17:30.859 –> 00:17:31.299
Speaker:
phenomena.

528
00:17:31.299 –> 00:17:33.380
Speaker:
Is it like just an energy, you
know?

529
00:17:33.380 –> 00:17:36.460
Speaker:
Is that why some can maybe show
up as a shadow and others show

530
00:17:36.460 –> 00:17:39.900
Speaker:
up as a voice or some sort of a
noise or something like that?

531
00:17:39.900 –> 00:17:45.700
Speaker:
Well, um, the psychic medium,
John Edward and I, I, I’ve seen

532
00:17:45.700 –> 00:17:49.220
Speaker:
him, I’ve seen his shows before,
uh, in person, in person.

533
00:17:49.220 –> 00:17:51.079
Speaker:
And, uh, yeah, I’ve, I’ve, I

534
00:17:51.079 –> 00:17:52.859
Speaker:
have watched the line of people

535
00:17:52.859 –> 00:17:54.180
Speaker:
standing behind him waiting to

536
00:17:54.180 –> 00:17:55.339
Speaker:
get their turn to talk through

537
00:17:55.339 –> 00:17:55.539
Speaker:
him.

538
00:17:55.539 –> 00:17:57.740
Speaker:
It’s fascinating.

539
00:17:57.740 –> 00:17:59.740
Speaker:
And he described in one of his

540
00:17:59.740 –> 00:18:02.539
Speaker:
books, he said, for a departed

541
00:18:02.539 –> 00:18:04.180
Speaker:
relative, especially one who’s

542
00:18:04.180 –> 00:18:06.180
Speaker:
crossed over for them to come

543
00:18:06.180 –> 00:18:08.140
Speaker:
down and visit us and have any

544
00:18:08.140 –> 00:18:09.740
Speaker:
kind of a conversation with the

545
00:18:09.740 –> 00:18:11.099
Speaker:
living, because we’re on two

546
00:18:11.099 –> 00:18:12.500
Speaker:
different ends of the radio

547
00:18:12.500 –> 00:18:14.140
Speaker:
station here.

548
00:18:14.140 –> 00:18:15.660
Speaker:
In order for them to slow down

549
00:18:15.660 –> 00:18:17.259
Speaker:
enough to be able to make

550
00:18:17.259 –> 00:18:18.859
Speaker:
contact with us at this

551
00:18:18.859 –> 00:18:20.539
Speaker:
vibration level.

552
00:18:20.539 –> 00:18:21.980
Speaker:
It’s like trying to make a phone

553
00:18:21.980 –> 00:18:23.339
Speaker:
call at the bottom of an Olympic

554
00:18:23.339 –> 00:18:24.579
Speaker:
swimming pool.

555
00:18:24.579 –> 00:18:27.440
Speaker:
It takes all the energy you’ve
got just to get down there to

556
00:18:27.440 –> 00:18:30.819
Speaker:
the phone, and once you reach
it, you can’t stay very long and

557
00:18:30.819 –> 00:18:32.740
Speaker:
you can’t talk very much.

558
00:18:32.740 –> 00:18:39.059
Speaker:
So oftentimes, and this is why,
like if I get caught on tape, is

559
00:18:39.059 –> 00:18:44.619
Speaker:
because evp’s have a much
broader range of, um, gain, you

560
00:18:44.619 –> 00:18:47.740
Speaker:
know, your work radio shows, you
know, what gains on the mic are.

561
00:18:47.740 –> 00:18:48.180
Speaker:
Mhm.

562
00:18:48.180 –> 00:18:50.339
Speaker:
And so the gains on a mic are

563
00:18:50.339 –> 00:18:53.180
Speaker:
much broader than the gains of

564
00:18:53.180 –> 00:18:53.579
Speaker:
our ears.

565
00:18:53.579 –> 00:18:56.220
Speaker:
We only listen between twenty
and twenty thousand hertz.

566
00:18:56.220 –> 00:18:57.099
Speaker:
Mhm.

567
00:18:57.099 –> 00:18:57.859
Speaker:
Okay.

568
00:18:57.859 –> 00:19:01.740
Speaker:
The lowest radio station on your
radio in the car is eighty eight

569
00:19:01.740 –> 00:19:03.980
Speaker:
point one hertz.

570
00:19:03.980 –> 00:19:06.779
Speaker:
So that’s four times what we’re
allowed to hear.

571
00:19:06.779 –> 00:19:07.980
Speaker:
That’s why you have to have that

572
00:19:07.980 –> 00:19:10.019
Speaker:
device to slow those signals

573
00:19:10.019 –> 00:19:11.059
Speaker:
down to the point where the

574
00:19:11.059 –> 00:19:13.460
Speaker:
human ear can pick them up on a

575
00:19:13.460 –> 00:19:14.380
Speaker:
radio scale.

576
00:19:14.380 –> 00:19:18.220
Speaker:
Let’s just suppose that you and
I here, physically, our bodies

577
00:19:18.220 –> 00:19:20.579
Speaker:
are at eighty eight point one.

578
00:19:20.579 –> 00:19:22.700
Speaker:
Now the radio goes up to one

579
00:19:22.700 –> 00:19:23.859
Speaker:
hundred and seven point eight or

580
00:19:23.859 –> 00:19:24.660
Speaker:
whatever.

581
00:19:24.660 –> 00:19:28.289
Speaker:
But you see, dead people are
like for twenty one point five.

582
00:19:28.289 –> 00:19:30.609
Speaker:
They’re way up there.

583
00:19:30.609 –> 00:19:34.190
Speaker:
So we can’t listen to for twenty

584
00:19:34.190 –> 00:19:35.450
Speaker:
eight point five or whatever I

585
00:19:35.450 –> 00:19:35.930
Speaker:
said.

586
00:19:35.930 –> 00:19:38.410
Speaker:
So we’re on this one radio
station.

587
00:19:38.410 –> 00:19:42.369
Speaker:
And sometimes, you know, if
you’re trying to tune in with

588
00:19:42.369 –> 00:19:44.890
Speaker:
your car, the older cars that
have the knobs on them, and

589
00:19:44.890 –> 00:19:47.170
Speaker:
sometimes you turn the knob just
a little bit, you get a little

590
00:19:47.170 –> 00:19:50.450
Speaker:
fuzz and the stereo light will
blink on and off.

591
00:19:50.450 –> 00:19:53.250
Speaker:
You know, some of the younger
viewers with newer cars won’t

592
00:19:53.250 –> 00:19:58.309
Speaker:
understand this, but sometimes
when your knob is just not quite

593
00:19:58.309 –> 00:20:00.650
Speaker:
on, you get a little bit of
static, a little bit of fuzz,

594
00:20:00.650 –> 00:20:03.250
Speaker:
and the stereo, not light, is
blinking on and off.

595
00:20:03.250 –> 00:20:06.609
Speaker:
You’re not quite on it, but
you’re picking up other stuff.

596
00:20:06.609 –> 00:20:08.490
Speaker:
And some people can pick up
other stuff.

597
00:20:08.490 –> 00:20:09.910
Speaker:
And sometimes when the mind

598
00:20:09.910 –> 00:20:12.569
Speaker:
wanders, that’s when most people

599
00:20:12.569 –> 00:20:13.450
Speaker:
say that they’re picking up

600
00:20:13.450 –> 00:20:13.650
Speaker:
things.

601
00:20:13.650 –> 00:20:16.250
Speaker:
It’s like, okay, I’m settling
down for the night.

602
00:20:16.250 –> 00:20:17.569
Speaker:
I’m just sitting here just zoned

603
00:20:17.569 –> 00:20:18.890
Speaker:
out watching TV, and all of a

604
00:20:18.890 –> 00:20:20.009
Speaker:
sudden that’s when everything’s

605
00:20:20.009 –> 00:20:20.369
Speaker:
happening.

606
00:20:20.369 –> 00:20:22.049
Speaker:
I say, oh no, it’s always
happening.

607
00:20:22.049 –> 00:20:24.410
Speaker:
It’s just that’s when you’re
noticing it.

608
00:20:24.410 –> 00:20:29.190
Speaker:
But for a departed person have
slowed down from four twenty

609
00:20:29.190 –> 00:20:31.410
Speaker:
five point eight and come all
the way down.

610
00:20:31.410 –> 00:20:35.410
Speaker:
What really happens is they get
down to about one hundred.

611
00:20:35.410 –> 00:20:35.730
Speaker:
Okay.

612
00:20:35.730 –> 00:20:40.230
Speaker:
And so we have to try to speed
up our our vibration from eighty

613
00:20:40.230 –> 00:20:43.369
Speaker:
eight up to as closest to one
hundred as we can.

614
00:20:43.369 –> 00:20:47.049
Speaker:
And so what happens is there’s a
gap because if we could both

615
00:20:47.049 –> 00:20:51.130
Speaker:
meet at the same station, at the
same vibration, we would be able

616
00:20:51.130 –> 00:20:54.210
Speaker:
to have a walking, talking back
and forth conversation just like

617
00:20:54.210 –> 00:20:54.769
Speaker:
they were living.

618
00:20:54.769 –> 00:20:56.970
Speaker:
We’d be able to talk back and
forth no problem.

619
00:20:56.970 –> 00:20:58.769
Speaker:
But what happens is there’s a

620
00:20:58.769 –> 00:21:00.569
Speaker:
gap about how far they can slow

621
00:21:00.569 –> 00:21:02.410
Speaker:
down and how fast we can speed

622
00:21:02.410 –> 00:21:03.369
Speaker:
up.

623
00:21:03.369 –> 00:21:05.410
Speaker:
And so there’s this gap.

624
00:21:05.410 –> 00:21:07.089
Speaker:
Now, if you take that on a on a

625
00:21:07.089 –> 00:21:09.089
Speaker:
graph and you mark it over time,

626
00:21:09.089 –> 00:21:11.210
Speaker:
and time is the linear and the

627
00:21:11.210 –> 00:21:14.009
Speaker:
vibration speed is the vertical,

628
00:21:14.009 –> 00:21:17.349
Speaker:
then what you have is because of

629
00:21:17.349 –> 00:21:18.750
Speaker:
vibration, because of like

630
00:21:18.750 –> 00:21:20.890
Speaker:
electrical energy, it follows a

631
00:21:20.890 –> 00:21:21.809
Speaker:
sine wave.

632
00:21:21.809 –> 00:21:26.059
Speaker:
You have an up and down series
of frequency, and you have

633
00:21:26.059 –> 00:21:29.160
Speaker:
amplitude modulation where
there’s a different strength

634
00:21:29.160 –> 00:21:30.359
Speaker:
behind the signal.

635
00:21:31.400 –> 00:21:33.960
Speaker:
So if I’m trying to talk to a

636
00:21:33.960 –> 00:21:35.480
Speaker:
dead person, I’ve got my mind

637
00:21:35.480 –> 00:21:36.960
Speaker:
tuned into that channel, and I’m

638
00:21:36.960 –> 00:21:39.059
Speaker:
trying to get myself there to

639
00:21:39.059 –> 00:21:40.640
Speaker:
have some kind of a point of

640
00:21:40.640 –> 00:21:41.440
Speaker:
contact.

641
00:21:41.440 –> 00:21:43.319
Speaker:
And they are in the room, and

642
00:21:43.319 –> 00:21:44.720
Speaker:
they’re slowing down as much as

643
00:21:44.720 –> 00:21:45.400
Speaker:
they can.

644
00:21:45.400 –> 00:21:48.200
Speaker:
And we’ve got this gap over
time.

645
00:21:48.200 –> 00:21:54.400
Speaker:
The gap will close for blips
here and there.

646
00:21:54.400 –> 00:21:56.119
Speaker:
So what happens is if I’m trying

647
00:21:56.119 –> 00:21:57.799
Speaker:
to say, okay, somebody says,

648
00:21:57.799 –> 00:21:58.759
Speaker:
hey, look, I want to talk to

649
00:21:58.759 –> 00:21:59.559
Speaker:
Grandpa Jim.

650
00:21:59.559 –> 00:22:00.240
Speaker:
All right, fine.

651
00:22:00.240 –> 00:22:02.920
Speaker:
Grandpa Jim and I try to I try
to get, you know, hey, whatever

652
00:22:02.920 –> 00:22:06.559
Speaker:
you’re doing, if you got time to
come in here and talk, and over

653
00:22:06.559 –> 00:22:09.680
Speaker:
time, I will get vowel sounds.

654
00:22:09.680 –> 00:22:14.759
Speaker:
Over time, I might get a picture
of a dog or a car, or I might

655
00:22:14.759 –> 00:22:18.079
Speaker:
get a picture of a house, or I
might get a feeling about

656
00:22:18.079 –> 00:22:21.640
Speaker:
something, or there might be
some emotional content attached

657
00:22:21.640 –> 00:22:23.589
Speaker:
to something I’m being shown.

658
00:22:23.589 –> 00:22:26.309
Speaker:
And so I have to put all that
together like a jigsaw puzzle

659
00:22:26.309 –> 00:22:29.509
Speaker:
and go, okay, say, look, I’m
seeing a great big brown dog.

660
00:22:29.509 –> 00:22:33.029
Speaker:
It kind of looks like a Great
Dane, but beefier.

661
00:22:33.029 –> 00:22:34.269
Speaker:
And I go, oh yeah, that was that

662
00:22:34.269 –> 00:22:35.069
Speaker:
was, you know, that was

663
00:22:35.069 –> 00:22:35.789
Speaker:
grandpa’s dog.

664
00:22:35.789 –> 00:22:37.230
Speaker:
You know, his name was so and so
whatever.

665
00:22:37.230 –> 00:22:38.430
Speaker:
And that just recently happened
to me.

666
00:22:38.430 –> 00:22:40.710
Speaker:
I’m like, okay, why is this dog
running through the room now?

667
00:22:40.710 –> 00:22:41.710
Speaker:
Right?

668
00:22:41.710 –> 00:22:43.470
Speaker:
It’s, it’s not a Great Dane, but

669
00:22:43.470 –> 00:22:45.470
Speaker:
it’s not a Saint Bernard, but

670
00:22:45.470 –> 00:22:46.930
Speaker:
it’s a great big brown dog, a

671
00:22:46.930 –> 00:22:48.710
Speaker:
black dog with brown spots on

672
00:22:48.710 –> 00:22:48.990
Speaker:
it.

673
00:22:48.990 –> 00:22:52.390
Speaker:
It kind of looks like a Dobie or
a Rottweiler, but big.

674
00:22:52.390 –> 00:22:54.269
Speaker:
And I’m like, oh yeah, that was
that was, you know, that was

675
00:22:54.269 –> 00:22:56.269
Speaker:
dad’s dog, you know, blah, blah,
blah, blah, blah.

676
00:22:56.269 –> 00:22:58.630
Speaker:
Okay, so what about this truck
I’m seeing?

677
00:22:58.630 –> 00:22:59.470
Speaker:
It’s an older truck.

678
00:22:59.470 –> 00:23:01.910
Speaker:
It looks like it might have like
a tow winch out the back.

679
00:23:01.910 –> 00:23:02.509
Speaker:
Oh, yeah.

680
00:23:02.509 –> 00:23:03.549
Speaker:
You know, dad would go out and

681
00:23:03.549 –> 00:23:04.789
Speaker:
buy cars and he would come home

682
00:23:04.789 –> 00:23:05.710
Speaker:
and we’d fix them and blah,

683
00:23:05.710 –> 00:23:06.390
Speaker:
blah, blah.

684
00:23:06.390 –> 00:23:10.210
Speaker:
So it’s not like having this
back and forth conversation

685
00:23:10.210 –> 00:23:12.990
Speaker:
where two people can just sit
down and, you know, smoke a

686
00:23:12.990 –> 00:23:14.190
Speaker:
cigar and chew the fat.

687
00:23:14.190 –> 00:23:15.789
Speaker:
It’s more like I’m trying to put

688
00:23:15.789 –> 00:23:18.849
Speaker:
together the pieces of, okay, so

689
00:23:18.849 –> 00:23:20.150
Speaker:
I’m in this house and these

690
00:23:20.150 –> 00:23:21.269
Speaker:
people are complaining that

691
00:23:21.269 –> 00:23:22.430
Speaker:
there’s something in this house

692
00:23:22.430 –> 00:23:23.630
Speaker:
that’s not really happy with

693
00:23:23.630 –> 00:23:23.829
Speaker:
them.

694
00:23:23.829 –> 00:23:26.069
Speaker:
And I go, okay, can you tell me
a little bit about yourself?

695
00:23:26.069 –> 00:23:26.630
Speaker:
What’s your name?

696
00:23:26.630 –> 00:23:27.230
Speaker:
Why are you here?

697
00:23:27.230 –> 00:23:27.950
Speaker:
When did you die?

698
00:23:27.950 –> 00:23:28.710
Speaker:
How long you been here?

699
00:23:28.710 –> 00:23:29.549
Speaker:
And blah, blah, blah, blah.

700
00:23:29.549 –> 00:23:34.170
Speaker:
And I hear a vowel sound that
might sound like Fred or Ed or

701
00:23:34.170 –> 00:23:37.029
Speaker:
Ned or something like that.

702
00:23:37.029 –> 00:23:40.069
Speaker:
And so I got to figure out,
okay, I’m hearing this e sound,

703
00:23:40.069 –> 00:23:41.509
Speaker:
this, this vowel sound.

704
00:23:41.509 –> 00:23:42.549
Speaker:
So what does that mean?

705
00:23:42.549 –> 00:23:44.029
Speaker:
What, what does that actually
mean?

706
00:23:44.029 –> 00:23:44.910
Speaker:
What am I picking up?

707
00:23:44.910 –> 00:23:46.109
Speaker:
Right.

708
00:23:46.109 –> 00:23:47.710
Speaker:
And so then I have to ask the

709
00:23:47.710 –> 00:23:48.869
Speaker:
people who are living in the

710
00:23:48.869 –> 00:23:50.829
Speaker:
house is, is there do you know

711
00:23:50.829 –> 00:23:53.970
Speaker:
somebody named Fred Ned, Ed, uh,

712
00:23:53.970 –> 00:23:55.049
Speaker:
you know, any other kind of

713
00:23:55.049 –> 00:23:57.230
Speaker:
sound like that, Ted or, you

714
00:23:57.230 –> 00:23:58.829
Speaker:
know, does that mean anything

715
00:23:58.829 –> 00:23:59.069
Speaker:
here?

716
00:23:59.069 –> 00:24:01.710
Speaker:
And I’m like, no, you know, my
grandpa’s name was Ralph.

717
00:24:01.710 –> 00:24:02.829
Speaker:
I’m like, okay, well, then it’s

718
00:24:02.829 –> 00:24:05.190
Speaker:
nobody connected to you that we

719
00:24:05.190 –> 00:24:06.829
Speaker:
can that we can establish at

720
00:24:06.829 –> 00:24:07.509
Speaker:
this point.

721
00:24:07.509 –> 00:24:09.829
Speaker:
So I have to sit here and try to
figure out these puzzles.

722
00:24:09.829 –> 00:24:11.630
Speaker:
And when people come in with

723
00:24:11.630 –> 00:24:13.230
Speaker:
the, the equipment and they’re

724
00:24:13.230 –> 00:24:16.829
Speaker:
recording EVP and if you’ve done

725
00:24:16.829 –> 00:24:17.950
Speaker:
this, you’ll notice that like

726
00:24:17.950 –> 00:24:20.720
Speaker:
sometimes if you’re, you know,

727
00:24:20.720 –> 00:24:22.339
Speaker:
in order to catch EVP, you have

728
00:24:22.339 –> 00:24:23.859
Speaker:
to talk out and hopefully get a

729
00:24:23.859 –> 00:24:24.380
Speaker:
response.

730
00:24:24.380 –> 00:24:25.500
Speaker:
Mhm, mhm.

731
00:24:25.500 –> 00:24:29.619
Speaker:
And the good ones will actually
say one question and then shut

732
00:24:29.619 –> 00:24:32.940
Speaker:
up for ten or fifteen seconds.

733
00:24:32.940 –> 00:24:35.660
Speaker:
The bad ones will just like,
where are you?

734
00:24:35.660 –> 00:24:36.339
Speaker:
Who have you been?

735
00:24:36.339 –> 00:24:37.220
Speaker:
You know, what was your name?

736
00:24:37.220 –> 00:24:37.819
Speaker:
Where did you live?

737
00:24:37.819 –> 00:24:37.980
Speaker:
Here.

738
00:24:37.980 –> 00:24:38.700
Speaker:
Where did you die?

739
00:24:38.700 –> 00:24:39.259
Speaker:
What did you do?

740
00:24:39.259 –> 00:24:39.420
Speaker:
Like?

741
00:24:39.420 –> 00:24:41.299
Speaker:
Will you let him answer the
first question, man?

742
00:24:41.299 –> 00:24:42.539
Speaker:
Come on, give him some time.

743
00:24:42.539 –> 00:24:44.059
Speaker:
You know, like, slow it down.

744
00:24:44.059 –> 00:24:47.299
Speaker:
These people are still trying to
interact with this world yet.

745
00:24:47.299 –> 00:24:52.619
Speaker:
And so what happens is because
the wider gain of the microphone

746
00:24:52.619 –> 00:24:56.339
Speaker:
and the greater sensitivity of
what it’s able to pick up, these

747
00:24:56.339 –> 00:25:01.980
Speaker:
little blips can be captured on
that, that digital media.

748
00:25:01.980 –> 00:25:02.299
Speaker:
Okay.

749
00:25:02.299 –> 00:25:06.500
Speaker:
And so whenever we’re talking
back and forth with whatever

750
00:25:06.500 –> 00:25:09.140
Speaker:
could be in the room, we’re
getting these little blips of

751
00:25:09.140 –> 00:25:11.339
Speaker:
answers and audibly.

752
00:25:11.339 –> 00:25:15.900
Speaker:
Sometimes it only comes across
as a knock.

753
00:25:15.900 –> 00:25:16.700
Speaker:
Okay.

754
00:25:16.700 –> 00:25:19.460
Speaker:
Have you ever experienced that
where you’re you’re trying to

755
00:25:19.460 –> 00:25:22.740
Speaker:
record an EVP and you’re asking
a question and like down the

756
00:25:22.740 –> 00:25:26.579
Speaker:
hall, there might be a thump or
a knock or it sounds like like a

757
00:25:26.579 –> 00:25:29.019
Speaker:
shoe fell on the floor or
something like that.

758
00:25:29.019 –> 00:25:31.940
Speaker:
That is the actual answer.

759
00:25:31.940 –> 00:25:33.819
Speaker:
That’s what we can hear out of
that.

760
00:25:33.819 –> 00:25:35.500
Speaker:
But when when you slow that tape

761
00:25:35.500 –> 00:25:38.559
Speaker:
down, what you get is, you know,

762
00:25:38.559 –> 00:25:40.299
Speaker:
I died.

763
00:25:40.299 –> 00:25:41.460
Speaker:
That’s all you’ll get.

764
00:25:41.460 –> 00:25:45.059
Speaker:
And it comes across as a, a
knock like that, right.

765
00:25:45.059 –> 00:25:47.759
Speaker:
A knock and you’re like, okay,
you know, I heard a knock and

766
00:25:47.759 –> 00:25:49.099
Speaker:
you know, somebody go, oh my
God, it’s a demon.

767
00:25:49.099 –> 00:25:50.059
Speaker:
It’s like, no, it’s not a demon.

768
00:25:50.059 –> 00:25:50.900
Speaker:
That was the answer.

769
00:25:50.900 –> 00:25:52.059
Speaker:
I’m going to go play this tape

770
00:25:52.059 –> 00:25:53.380
Speaker:
back and sit here for the next

771
00:25:53.380 –> 00:25:54.660
Speaker:
six hours trying to play this

772
00:25:54.660 –> 00:25:55.019
Speaker:
back.

773
00:25:55.019 –> 00:25:56.220
Speaker:
And it’s going to come across as

774
00:25:56.220 –> 00:25:57.700
Speaker:
something really fuzzy that we

775
00:25:57.700 –> 00:25:58.339
Speaker:
can say.

776
00:25:58.339 –> 00:26:01.259
Speaker:
It kind of sounds like I died
here.

777
00:26:01.259 –> 00:26:01.980
Speaker:
That’s got to be really

778
00:26:01.980 –> 00:26:03.559
Speaker:
frustrating for the dead people,

779
00:26:03.559 –> 00:26:04.500
Speaker:
because you’re trying to like

780
00:26:04.500 –> 00:26:05.900
Speaker:
convey messages to the people in

781
00:26:05.900 –> 00:26:06.680
Speaker:
the house and it’s like, oh,

782
00:26:06.680 –> 00:26:07.420
Speaker:
they think, you know, like you

783
00:26:07.420 –> 00:26:08.539
Speaker:
said, it’s a demon or somebody’s

784
00:26:08.539 –> 00:26:09.460
Speaker:
trying to scare the hell out of

785
00:26:09.460 –> 00:26:09.619
Speaker:
me.

786
00:26:09.619 –> 00:26:13.420
Speaker:
But it’s just that has always
been the impression that I get

787
00:26:13.420 –> 00:26:17.369
Speaker:
when I go into houses and I’m
talking to spirits and all that.

788
00:26:17.369 –> 00:26:19.450
Speaker:
They get so incredibly
frustrated.

789
00:26:19.450 –> 00:26:22.089
Speaker:
I mean, because imagine you’re

790
00:26:22.089 –> 00:26:24.049
Speaker:
still like, right now, I still

791
00:26:24.049 –> 00:26:25.390
Speaker:
feel like I’m a twenty five year

792
00:26:25.390 –> 00:26:26.009
Speaker:
old man.

793
00:26:26.009 –> 00:26:28.410
Speaker:
I’m, I’m much, much older than
that.

794
00:26:28.410 –> 00:26:29.730
Speaker:
But I still feel young.

795
00:26:29.730 –> 00:26:31.289
Speaker:
I still feel vital, I still

796
00:26:31.289 –> 00:26:32.529
Speaker:
feel, I mean, I, I go out and

797
00:26:32.529 –> 00:26:34.230
Speaker:
run and I, you know, I work out

798
00:26:34.230 –> 00:26:38.069
Speaker:
and I, I’m in pretty good health

799
00:26:38.069 –> 00:26:40.490
Speaker:
and on the inside, I’m just as

800
00:26:40.490 –> 00:26:41.750
Speaker:
young as I was when I was twenty

801
00:26:41.750 –> 00:26:41.930
Speaker:
five.

802
00:26:41.930 –> 00:26:45.049
Speaker:
I’m just, I just over the years
now I have better and better

803
00:26:45.049 –> 00:26:50.410
Speaker:
experience of being twenty five,
but I don’t feel as old as I am.

804
00:26:50.410 –> 00:26:52.970
Speaker:
And so when I die and unzip this

805
00:26:52.970 –> 00:26:54.089
Speaker:
suit, I’m still going to feel

806
00:26:54.089 –> 00:26:55.289
Speaker:
like the person I am, even

807
00:26:55.289 –> 00:26:56.369
Speaker:
though I’m looking down on my

808
00:26:56.369 –> 00:26:58.009
Speaker:
own dead body, sitting there on

809
00:26:58.009 –> 00:26:59.529
Speaker:
the floor or in the hospital bed

810
00:26:59.529 –> 00:27:00.670
Speaker:
or wherever it’s going to be at

811
00:27:00.670 –> 00:27:02.690
Speaker:
that time, forty, forty years

812
00:27:02.690 –> 00:27:03.569
Speaker:
from now.

813
00:27:03.569 –> 00:27:05.750
Speaker:
And so I can look down and go,
yeah, that’s my that’s my

814
00:27:05.750 –> 00:27:06.529
Speaker:
freaking dead body.

815
00:27:06.529 –> 00:27:08.009
Speaker:
And here comes my, my adult

816
00:27:08.009 –> 00:27:09.529
Speaker:
children in here who are all,

817
00:27:09.529 –> 00:27:10.849
Speaker:
you know, fifty and sixty years

818
00:27:10.849 –> 00:27:11.809
Speaker:
old.

819
00:27:11.809 –> 00:27:13.490
Speaker:
And I’m going to try to talk to
them.

820
00:27:13.490 –> 00:27:15.450
Speaker:
It’s like, don’t worry,
everything’s cool.

821
00:27:15.450 –> 00:27:16.450
Speaker:
I’m right here with you.

822
00:27:16.450 –> 00:27:17.609
Speaker:
I’m going to be behind you.

823
00:27:17.609 –> 00:27:18.769
Speaker:
I’m taking care of you.

824
00:27:18.769 –> 00:27:20.730
Speaker:
And they’re like, oh my God,
dad’s dead.

825
00:27:20.730 –> 00:27:25.329
Speaker:
Like, no, I’m right here in the
room with you and the people

826
00:27:25.329 –> 00:27:28.490
Speaker:
that I have talked to, both
living and deceased.

827
00:27:28.490 –> 00:27:29.970
Speaker:
It is incredibly frustrating

828
00:27:29.970 –> 00:27:30.970
Speaker:
when they’re trying to get a

829
00:27:30.970 –> 00:27:33.869
Speaker:
message across and, um, just,

830
00:27:33.869 –> 00:27:36.289
Speaker:
you know, people are either, oh,

831
00:27:36.289 –> 00:27:38.609
Speaker:
it’s a demon or I think it’s my

832
00:27:38.609 –> 00:27:39.049
Speaker:
grandmother.

833
00:27:39.049 –> 00:27:40.210
Speaker:
I need you to make sure.

834
00:27:40.210 –> 00:27:41.809
Speaker:
And that’s the ones I really
enjoy.

835
00:27:41.809 –> 00:27:44.210
Speaker:
It’s like, okay, well, let’s
find out about grandma and let’s

836
00:27:44.210 –> 00:27:46.650
Speaker:
see if we can, you know, find
out who’s in the house and

837
00:27:46.650 –> 00:27:47.849
Speaker:
what’s going on with that.

838
00:27:47.849 –> 00:27:50.730
Speaker:
And we’ll try to answer those
questions for you.

839
00:27:50.730 –> 00:27:51.970
Speaker:
Now, how do you know?

840
00:27:51.970 –> 00:27:54.490
Speaker:
How can you tell the difference
between just a regular, you

841
00:27:54.490 –> 00:27:57.410
Speaker:
know, spirit of a human and a
demon because you said you have

842
00:27:57.410 –> 00:27:59.849
Speaker:
had a few experiences with what
you think are demons.

843
00:27:59.849 –> 00:28:01.369
Speaker:
Like, how do you know?

844
00:28:01.369 –> 00:28:03.529
Speaker:
Um, okay.

845
00:28:03.529 –> 00:28:05.390
Speaker:
That would be like, how do you

846
00:28:05.390 –> 00:28:06.890
Speaker:
know you’re listening to country

847
00:28:06.890 –> 00:28:08.390
Speaker:
on the radio versus listening to

848
00:28:08.390 –> 00:28:09.210
Speaker:
classic rock?

849
00:28:09.210 –> 00:28:12.039
Speaker:
Okay, it’s a different
wavelength.

850
00:28:12.039 –> 00:28:13.720
Speaker:
It’s a different energy.

851
00:28:13.720 –> 00:28:18.559
Speaker:
Um, people, as much addicts as
we can be to each other.

852
00:28:18.559 –> 00:28:20.759
Speaker:
And trust me, we can be dicks,
right?

853
00:28:22.680 –> 00:28:25.319
Speaker:
I don’t like to use the word
demon because it has too much

854
00:28:25.319 –> 00:28:26.680
Speaker:
church attached to it.

855
00:28:26.680 –> 00:28:28.359
Speaker:
And this isn’t about none of
this.

856
00:28:28.359 –> 00:28:30.200
Speaker:
It’s about religion.

857
00:28:30.200 –> 00:28:32.720
Speaker:
Because our religions here on
earth have nothing to do with

858
00:28:32.720 –> 00:28:34.920
Speaker:
these things that come in.

859
00:28:34.920 –> 00:28:36.119
Speaker:
And so I don’t like using the

860
00:28:36.119 –> 00:28:37.759
Speaker:
word demon and the word demon

861
00:28:37.759 –> 00:28:38.119
Speaker:
itself.

862
00:28:38.119 –> 00:28:40.920
Speaker:
There’s a whole history I could
talk about, about where that

863
00:28:40.920 –> 00:28:44.900
Speaker:
word came from and how it got
distorted and how the church

864
00:28:44.900 –> 00:28:46.519
Speaker:
during the Middle Ages.

865
00:28:48.440 –> 00:28:51.640
Speaker:
Altered the definition of that
word to make it something else.

866
00:28:51.640 –> 00:28:53.559
Speaker:
And we do that in the English
language a lot.

867
00:28:53.559 –> 00:28:56.640
Speaker:
And we we will change the
meanings of words to fit the

868
00:28:56.640 –> 00:28:58.359
Speaker:
times or the purpose.

869
00:28:58.359 –> 00:29:00.640
Speaker:
But if.

870
00:29:00.640 –> 00:29:07.039
Speaker:
Um, okay, let’s talk about a
house I went into, um, I got

871
00:29:07.039 –> 00:29:09.240
Speaker:
called into this house because
the people were complaining.

872
00:29:09.240 –> 00:29:11.799
Speaker:
There’s something really, really
bad here.

873
00:29:11.799 –> 00:29:15.279
Speaker:
Um, the fourteen or fifteen year
old daughter has been drawing

874
00:29:15.279 –> 00:29:20.180
Speaker:
some really, really scary
pictures and we were getting

875
00:29:20.180 –> 00:29:23.519
Speaker:
like, lights are turning off and
we’re getting a lot of really

876
00:29:23.519 –> 00:29:25.359
Speaker:
bad feeling in the house.

877
00:29:25.359 –> 00:29:29.359
Speaker:
And this, this really feels
horrible.

878
00:29:29.359 –> 00:29:31.279
Speaker:
It’s like nothing I could put my
finger on.

879
00:29:31.279 –> 00:29:33.119
Speaker:
It just really feels bad.

880
00:29:33.119 –> 00:29:37.279
Speaker:
And there’s just this really
this horrible emotional content

881
00:29:37.279 –> 00:29:39.079
Speaker:
in this house.

882
00:29:39.079 –> 00:29:43.759
Speaker:
So the friend of mine that knows
these people contacted me and

883
00:29:43.759 –> 00:29:46.160
Speaker:
says, hey, I think we got a
house we can go see.

884
00:29:46.160 –> 00:29:46.559
Speaker:
All right.

885
00:29:46.559 –> 00:29:46.960
Speaker:
Fine.

886
00:29:46.960 –> 00:29:49.720
Speaker:
Well, he is also gifted and I’ve
had him on some, uh,

887
00:29:49.720 –> 00:29:52.119
Speaker:
investigations with me.

888
00:29:52.119 –> 00:29:55.420
Speaker:
So he and my wife and I, the
three of us, go out and we go

889
00:29:55.420 –> 00:29:58.480
Speaker:
take a look at this house and.

890
00:30:01.599 –> 00:30:03.839
Speaker:
Let let me do some explaining

891
00:30:03.839 –> 00:30:05.579
Speaker:
first before I finish the story,

892
00:30:05.579 –> 00:30:06.640
Speaker:
okay.

893
00:30:06.640 –> 00:30:11.589
Speaker:
When these things are in
people’s homes.

894
00:30:12.829 –> 00:30:14.470
Speaker:
They are.

895
00:30:15.589 –> 00:30:16.829
Speaker:
Imagine it this way.

896
00:30:16.829 –> 00:30:19.230
Speaker:
So imagine that you are hurtling

897
00:30:19.230 –> 00:30:21.890
Speaker:
through space in a spaceship at

898
00:30:21.890 –> 00:30:24.750
Speaker:
a billion miles an hour, and

899
00:30:24.750 –> 00:30:25.109
Speaker:
you’re.

900
00:30:25.109 –> 00:30:26.589
Speaker:
You’re just screaming through

901
00:30:26.589 –> 00:30:28.430
Speaker:
space and all of a sudden, you

902
00:30:28.430 –> 00:30:29.910
Speaker:
know, you blow a gasket in your

903
00:30:29.910 –> 00:30:32.269
Speaker:
spaceship and there’s a planet

904
00:30:32.269 –> 00:30:34.730
Speaker:
nearby and, you know, you, you

905
00:30:34.730 –> 00:30:36.910
Speaker:
scan it and, hey, it can support

906
00:30:36.910 –> 00:30:37.509
Speaker:
you.

907
00:30:37.509 –> 00:30:39.710
Speaker:
You can breathe on this planet.

908
00:30:39.710 –> 00:30:40.109
Speaker:
All right.

909
00:30:40.109 –> 00:30:40.750
Speaker:
Fine.

910
00:30:40.750 –> 00:30:44.029
Speaker:
So you’re going to take your
smoking, squeaking, sparking

911
00:30:44.029 –> 00:30:47.950
Speaker:
spaceship, and you’re going to
crash land onto this planet.

912
00:30:47.950 –> 00:30:51.029
Speaker:
Now your ship is busted up and
you can’t get out.

913
00:30:51.029 –> 00:30:54.670
Speaker:
So you’re on this planet now,
far, far, far away from earth.

914
00:30:54.670 –> 00:30:55.829
Speaker:
And you step outside.

915
00:30:55.829 –> 00:30:59.109
Speaker:
And yes, you can breathe without
your spacesuit on.

916
00:30:59.109 –> 00:31:02.309
Speaker:
So now you’re wandering around
and this place looks an awful

917
00:31:02.309 –> 00:31:03.230
Speaker:
lot like earth.

918
00:31:03.230 –> 00:31:05.309
Speaker:
The plants are a little bit
different, but yeah, it’s okay.

919
00:31:05.309 –> 00:31:06.589
Speaker:
It’s the same.

920
00:31:06.589 –> 00:31:07.750
Speaker:
And you notice on top of the

921
00:31:07.750 –> 00:31:08.910
Speaker:
hill, there’s a farmhouse up

922
00:31:08.910 –> 00:31:09.470
Speaker:
there.

923
00:31:09.470 –> 00:31:09.950
Speaker:
Mhm.

924
00:31:09.950 –> 00:31:11.750
Speaker:
Now, as a human being, you know

925
00:31:11.750 –> 00:31:13.130
Speaker:
that you need certain things to

926
00:31:13.130 –> 00:31:13.630
Speaker:
survive.

927
00:31:13.630 –> 00:31:16.230
Speaker:
You need food and water now.

928
00:31:16.230 –> 00:31:18.269
Speaker:
You need clothing soon, and

929
00:31:18.269 –> 00:31:19.509
Speaker:
you’re going to need shelter

930
00:31:19.509 –> 00:31:20.430
Speaker:
eventually.

931
00:31:21.829 –> 00:31:27.430
Speaker:
So here you are wandering
through this.

932
00:31:27.430 –> 00:31:29.349
Speaker:
You know, you’re approaching

933
00:31:29.349 –> 00:31:31.109
Speaker:
this farmhouse and you notice

934
00:31:31.109 –> 00:31:33.849
Speaker:
outside on the clothesline,

935
00:31:33.849 –> 00:31:37.150
Speaker:
there’s bedsheets and there’s

936
00:31:37.150 –> 00:31:38.690
Speaker:
some, uh, some farmer’s

937
00:31:38.690 –> 00:31:40.109
Speaker:
overalls.

938
00:31:40.109 –> 00:31:43.069
Speaker:
And you go, okay, I’ve got
clothing and I’ve got sheets I

939
00:31:43.069 –> 00:31:44.589
Speaker:
can make a shelter out of.

940
00:31:44.589 –> 00:31:46.710
Speaker:
Now, are you evil?

941
00:31:46.710 –> 00:31:49.230
Speaker:
If you go up there and take the
bed sheets to make a shelter?

942
00:31:50.430 –> 00:31:51.450
Speaker:
I mean, honestly, are you

943
00:31:51.450 –> 00:31:53.109
Speaker:
sinister and evil and demonic

944
00:31:53.109 –> 00:31:54.410
Speaker:
because you took the bed sheets,

945
00:31:54.410 –> 00:31:55.069
Speaker:
right?

946
00:31:55.069 –> 00:31:56.029
Speaker:
I wouldn’t think so.

947
00:31:56.029 –> 00:31:56.630
Speaker:
Yeah.

948
00:31:56.630 –> 00:31:57.750
Speaker:
No you’re not.

949
00:31:57.750 –> 00:31:59.390
Speaker:
You’re not an evil, horrible

950
00:31:59.390 –> 00:32:00.950
Speaker:
demon who’s trying to steal

951
00:32:00.950 –> 00:32:01.789
Speaker:
someone’s soul.

952
00:32:01.789 –> 00:32:04.069
Speaker:
You’re just basically trying to
get by the night without

953
00:32:04.069 –> 00:32:05.859
Speaker:
freezing to death.

954
00:32:05.859 –> 00:32:10.259
Speaker:
You’re also not an evil,
sinister, soul sucking demon

955
00:32:10.259 –> 00:32:12.299
Speaker:
because you took the overalls.

956
00:32:13.339 –> 00:32:16.940
Speaker:
You’re also not a soul sucking
evil demon.

957
00:32:16.940 –> 00:32:22.079
Speaker:
If you notice that the lady of
the house has an apple pie

958
00:32:22.079 –> 00:32:27.019
Speaker:
cooling on the windowsill like
they used to do years ago, and

959
00:32:27.019 –> 00:32:31.220
Speaker:
you take the pie because man,
you gotta eat, right?

960
00:32:31.220 –> 00:32:32.819
Speaker:
But that doesn’t make you evil.

961
00:32:32.819 –> 00:32:35.220
Speaker:
I mean, sure, yeah, it’s a dick

962
00:32:35.220 –> 00:32:36.259
Speaker:
move to take food from other

963
00:32:36.259 –> 00:32:36.539
Speaker:
people.

964
00:32:36.539 –> 00:32:40.579
Speaker:
But I mean, it’s not like you’re
going to go to work, okay?

965
00:32:40.579 –> 00:32:41.940
Speaker:
Because you can’t really

966
00:32:41.940 –> 00:32:43.420
Speaker:
interact around this world too

967
00:32:43.420 –> 00:32:43.980
Speaker:
awful much.

968
00:32:43.980 –> 00:32:45.339
Speaker:
So, hey, there’s a pie there.

969
00:32:45.339 –> 00:32:46.579
Speaker:
You’re going to take the pie and
eat it.

970
00:32:46.579 –> 00:32:50.099
Speaker:
Okay, you’ve survived now, but
that doesn’t make you evil.

971
00:32:50.099 –> 00:32:51.819
Speaker:
So let’s translate that to some

972
00:32:51.819 –> 00:32:53.119
Speaker:
of these things that tend to

973
00:32:53.119 –> 00:32:56.059
Speaker:
come into our world by quantum

974
00:32:56.059 –> 00:32:56.579
Speaker:
physics.

975
00:32:56.579 –> 00:33:00.059
Speaker:
Our world is simply a
manifestation of the vibration

976
00:33:00.059 –> 00:33:03.970
Speaker:
of the energy that makes up the
entirety of the universe.

977
00:33:03.970 –> 00:33:07.730
Speaker:
Every planet, every beam of
light, every photon from every

978
00:33:07.730 –> 00:33:10.690
Speaker:
star in the sky is all made of
the same stuff.

979
00:33:10.690 –> 00:33:12.569
Speaker:
It’s basically energy vibrating

980
00:33:12.569 –> 00:33:14.549
Speaker:
at different speeds in order to

981
00:33:14.549 –> 00:33:16.289
Speaker:
construct different levels of

982
00:33:16.289 –> 00:33:17.210
Speaker:
matter.

983
00:33:17.210 –> 00:33:18.970
Speaker:
Your body is made up of the same

984
00:33:18.970 –> 00:33:20.289
Speaker:
thing as your chair you’re

985
00:33:20.289 –> 00:33:21.650
Speaker:
sitting in.

986
00:33:21.650 –> 00:33:22.890
Speaker:
This is quantum physics.

987
00:33:22.890 –> 00:33:27.009
Speaker:
It’s it’s not even equals MC
squared stuff.

988
00:33:27.009 –> 00:33:29.410
Speaker:
It is exactly the equals MC
squared.

989
00:33:29.410 –> 00:33:32.490
Speaker:
And that formula basically
states that matter is energy and

990
00:33:32.490 –> 00:33:33.970
Speaker:
energy is matter.

991
00:33:33.970 –> 00:33:36.769
Speaker:
Some of it has manifested into a
place where I can make dresser

992
00:33:36.769 –> 00:33:37.730
Speaker:
drawers out of it.

993
00:33:37.730 –> 00:33:41.410
Speaker:
And some of it is light beams
and photons which bounce off of

994
00:33:41.410 –> 00:33:44.049
Speaker:
stuff and come into my eyeball
so I can see the dresser that

995
00:33:44.049 –> 00:33:45.130
Speaker:
I’m looking at.

996
00:33:45.130 –> 00:33:47.210
Speaker:
And sometimes it’s, you know,

997
00:33:47.210 –> 00:33:49.430
Speaker:
even things like thought are

998
00:33:49.430 –> 00:33:50.490
Speaker:
quantum physics.

999
00:33:50.490 –> 00:33:52.890
Speaker:
We think things and they become
things.

1000
00:33:52.890 –> 00:33:57.410
Speaker:
So the entire universe is built

1001
00:33:57.410 –> 00:33:59.970
Speaker:
on vibration of energy operating

1002
00:33:59.970 –> 00:34:01.529
Speaker:
at different frequencies and

1003
00:34:01.529 –> 00:34:02.569
Speaker:
speeds.

1004
00:34:02.569 –> 00:34:07.109
Speaker:
Now, this particular earth that
you and I are standing on,

1005
00:34:07.109 –> 00:34:09.170
Speaker:
you’re in your spot, wherever it
is that you are.

1006
00:34:09.170 –> 00:34:13.409
Speaker:
And I’m standing here in my spot
where I am, this earth and all

1007
00:34:13.409 –> 00:34:17.210
Speaker:
the the stars and skies around
us and all the planets and

1008
00:34:17.210 –> 00:34:22.449
Speaker:
everything on this universe is
operating at a specific

1009
00:34:22.449 –> 00:34:25.690
Speaker:
bandwidth of frequency.

1010
00:34:25.690 –> 00:34:27.130
Speaker:
There are more stations on the

1011
00:34:27.130 –> 00:34:29.409
Speaker:
radio, which means that yes, as

1012
00:34:29.409 –> 00:34:31.250
Speaker:
we exist here, the multiverse

1013
00:34:31.250 –> 00:34:32.769
Speaker:
theory says that there are other

1014
00:34:32.769 –> 00:34:34.610
Speaker:
vibrations and other universes

1015
00:34:34.610 –> 00:34:35.969
Speaker:
in other places where other

1016
00:34:35.969 –> 00:34:37.449
Speaker:
things can exist on those

1017
00:34:37.449 –> 00:34:38.690
Speaker:
locations.

1018
00:34:38.690 –> 00:34:40.329
Speaker:
We are not all that there is in

1019
00:34:40.329 –> 00:34:42.329
Speaker:
the universe, and I’ve never,

1020
00:34:42.329 –> 00:34:43.730
Speaker:
ever once tried to believe that

1021
00:34:43.730 –> 00:34:44.929
Speaker:
we are.

1022
00:34:44.929 –> 00:34:47.809
Speaker:
So there are other things on
other dimensions.

1023
00:34:47.809 –> 00:34:51.289
Speaker:
Sometimes in the fabric of this

1024
00:34:51.289 –> 00:34:54.130
Speaker:
time and place, sometimes

1025
00:34:54.130 –> 00:34:56.170
Speaker:
there’s gaps and holes and tears

1026
00:34:56.170 –> 00:34:58.489
Speaker:
in our world, and sometimes some

1027
00:34:58.489 –> 00:34:59.945
Speaker:
things get through from other

1028
00:34:59.945 –> 00:35:01.480
Speaker:
places and can’t find their way

1029
00:35:01.480 –> 00:35:03.320
Speaker:
back, and they become the

1030
00:35:03.320 –> 00:35:05.360
Speaker:
stranded astronomer or an

1031
00:35:05.360 –> 00:35:06.400
Speaker:
astronaut.

1032
00:35:06.400 –> 00:35:07.519
Speaker:
I see.

1033
00:35:07.519 –> 00:35:08.960
Speaker:
Okay, so now they’re in this

1034
00:35:08.960 –> 00:35:13.039
Speaker:
realm and well, at best you

1035
00:35:13.039 –> 00:35:14.239
Speaker:
might see a shadow moving

1036
00:35:14.239 –> 00:35:14.599
Speaker:
around.

1037
00:35:14.599 –> 00:35:17.000
Speaker:
So now I have to determine if
that’s a shadow from a dead

1038
00:35:17.000 –> 00:35:19.440
Speaker:
person trying to manifest, or if
that’s a shadow from something

1039
00:35:19.440 –> 00:35:22.559
Speaker:
that broke into this time and
place and is trying to survive.

1040
00:35:22.559 –> 00:35:26.679
Speaker:
Now, some of these things that
come in from other places, they

1041
00:35:26.679 –> 00:35:30.599
Speaker:
realize that the real fast food,
the McDonald’s food that they

1042
00:35:30.599 –> 00:35:35.320
Speaker:
can get Ahold of real quickly
here is emotional energy.

1043
00:35:35.320 –> 00:35:38.239
Speaker:
So now in order to eat, they
have to be able to conjure up

1044
00:35:38.239 –> 00:35:41.039
Speaker:
emotions out of these little
beings that are scurrying around

1045
00:35:41.039 –> 00:35:42.719
Speaker:
on this planet.

1046
00:35:42.719 –> 00:35:48.679
Speaker:
So now if I wanted to make you
feel something, it is much

1047
00:35:48.679 –> 00:35:54.480
Speaker:
easier for me to make you feel
fear than it is to make you feel

1048
00:35:54.480 –> 00:35:56.440
Speaker:
joy or love.

1049
00:35:56.440 –> 00:35:57.239
Speaker:
Okay.

1050
00:35:57.239 –> 00:35:58.880
Speaker:
That’s true.

1051
00:35:58.880 –> 00:35:59.719
Speaker:
Okay.

1052
00:35:59.719 –> 00:36:02.119
Speaker:
Because if you and I were
standing in a room and I lunged

1053
00:36:02.119 –> 00:36:05.119
Speaker:
at you really quickly, you would
be fearful, right?

1054
00:36:05.119 –> 00:36:06.519
Speaker:
Right.

1055
00:36:06.519 –> 00:36:07.079
Speaker:
Instantly.

1056
00:36:07.079 –> 00:36:08.320
Speaker:
Even if I come, even if I were

1057
00:36:08.320 –> 00:36:09.960
Speaker:
to come in for a hug, you would

1058
00:36:09.960 –> 00:36:11.380
Speaker:
startle at first, like, okay,

1059
00:36:11.380 –> 00:36:11.960
Speaker:
what’s what?

1060
00:36:11.960 –> 00:36:12.440
Speaker:
You know?

1061
00:36:12.440 –> 00:36:13.119
Speaker:
Wow.

1062
00:36:13.119 –> 00:36:14.000
Speaker:
Yeah, that was quick.

1063
00:36:14.000 –> 00:36:15.440
Speaker:
That was a abrupt.

1064
00:36:15.440 –> 00:36:20.280
Speaker:
That was, you know, as I say,
you know, unsettling.

1065
00:36:20.280 –> 00:36:21.360
Speaker:
Now I can eat.

1066
00:36:23.000 –> 00:36:24.639
Speaker:
So if I’m this little thing that

1067
00:36:24.639 –> 00:36:26.320
Speaker:
comes in from some other place

1068
00:36:26.320 –> 00:36:28.480
Speaker:
in the world and I need to eat,

1069
00:36:28.480 –> 00:36:29.760
Speaker:
all I really have to do is

1070
00:36:29.760 –> 00:36:31.719
Speaker:
conjure up enough energy to make

1071
00:36:31.719 –> 00:36:37.019
Speaker:
a sound or stomp my foot or, uh,

1072
00:36:37.019 –> 00:36:38.719
Speaker:
knock something over and you’re

1073
00:36:38.719 –> 00:36:39.639
Speaker:
going to go, Holy shit, it’s a

1074
00:36:39.639 –> 00:36:39.920
Speaker:
demon!

1075
00:36:39.920 –> 00:36:41.800
Speaker:
Oh my God, oh my God, it’s a
demon, right?

1076
00:36:41.800 –> 00:36:43.880
Speaker:
And then like, okay, now I get
to eat.

1077
00:36:45.039 –> 00:36:48.079
Speaker:
So it’s like the apple pie is
the fear.

1078
00:36:48.079 –> 00:36:49.480
Speaker:
Exactly.

1079
00:36:49.480 –> 00:36:50.360
Speaker:
Exactly.

1080
00:36:50.360 –> 00:36:50.599
Speaker:
Wow.

1081
00:36:50.599 –> 00:36:51.159
Speaker:
Okay.

1082
00:36:51.159 –> 00:36:56.760
Speaker:
Now there are just like, there
are, you know, hey, look, I’m

1083
00:36:56.760 –> 00:37:01.150
Speaker:
not going to try to to, you
know, whitewash this.

1084
00:37:01.150 –> 00:37:02.989
Speaker:
There are some people on this

1085
00:37:02.989 –> 00:37:05.170
Speaker:
earth who have jobs that are of

1086
00:37:05.170 –> 00:37:07.389
Speaker:
a of a different level than

1087
00:37:07.389 –> 00:37:08.190
Speaker:
other jobs.

1088
00:37:08.190 –> 00:37:11.130
Speaker:
You know, we have generals and
we have senators and, you know,

1089
00:37:11.130 –> 00:37:14.909
Speaker:
we have CEOs of major
corporations, and we have people

1090
00:37:14.909 –> 00:37:18.710
Speaker:
that, you know, they, they take
out the, uh, the trash at the

1091
00:37:18.710 –> 00:37:19.150
Speaker:
end of the day.

1092
00:37:19.150 –> 00:37:21.550
Speaker:
So that way the place can
operate cleanly, right?

1093
00:37:21.550 –> 00:37:25.070
Speaker:
So we, we have different levels
of different kinds of things

1094
00:37:25.070 –> 00:37:27.349
Speaker:
that happen here on earth.

1095
00:37:27.349 –> 00:37:29.710
Speaker:
There are different levels of
these different kinds of things

1096
00:37:29.710 –> 00:37:34.309
Speaker:
that happen, that tend to break
into our world and inhabit here.

1097
00:37:34.309 –> 00:37:36.610
Speaker:
Now, some of these things are

1098
00:37:36.610 –> 00:37:38.030
Speaker:
what I call commander level

1099
00:37:38.030 –> 00:37:38.670
Speaker:
beings.

1100
00:37:38.670 –> 00:37:40.789
Speaker:
These guys, they can boss
through these other little ones

1101
00:37:40.789 –> 00:37:42.869
Speaker:
around and tell them what to do.

1102
00:37:42.869 –> 00:37:45.389
Speaker:
And, uh, and I’ve seen that
happen.

1103
00:37:45.389 –> 00:37:48.030
Speaker:
So knowing all of this, let’s go

1104
00:37:48.030 –> 00:37:49.309
Speaker:
back to this house I had to

1105
00:37:49.309 –> 00:37:50.909
Speaker:
visit.

1106
00:37:50.909 –> 00:37:53.110
Speaker:
So we go in there and we’re

1107
00:37:53.110 –> 00:37:55.769
Speaker:
looking around the house And I

1108
00:37:55.769 –> 00:37:58.630
Speaker:
see two horribly hideous looking

1109
00:37:58.630 –> 00:38:00.670
Speaker:
little dog like creatures in

1110
00:38:00.670 –> 00:38:01.949
Speaker:
this house.

1111
00:38:01.949 –> 00:38:04.690
Speaker:
And my buddy, he sees them too,

1112
00:38:04.690 –> 00:38:06.409
Speaker:
and they look really nasty,

1113
00:38:06.409 –> 00:38:07.030
Speaker:
vicious.

1114
00:38:07.030 –> 00:38:09.389
Speaker:
You know, they have, like,
disjointed elbows.

1115
00:38:09.389 –> 00:38:12.389
Speaker:
Like their front legs look like
a Cloverfield.

1116
00:38:12.389 –> 00:38:15.650
Speaker:
You know, the elbows are all
kind of jacked up, but the head

1117
00:38:15.650 –> 00:38:17.230
Speaker:
is kind of like upside down.

1118
00:38:17.230 –> 00:38:18.429
Speaker:
It kind of looks almost like a

1119
00:38:18.429 –> 00:38:19.789
Speaker:
person, but almost kind of like

1120
00:38:19.789 –> 00:38:21.789
Speaker:
a dog or almost like a wolf or

1121
00:38:21.789 –> 00:38:22.869
Speaker:
something.

1122
00:38:22.869 –> 00:38:26.210
Speaker:
And the, uh, the torso is really

1123
00:38:26.210 –> 00:38:28.389
Speaker:
the thin when the ribs are

1124
00:38:28.389 –> 00:38:30.769
Speaker:
sticking out and it’s got spiky,

1125
00:38:30.769 –> 00:38:32.269
Speaker:
uh, spine bones sticking out of

1126
00:38:32.269 –> 00:38:32.349
Speaker:
it.

1127
00:38:32.349 –> 00:38:33.750
Speaker:
It’s really nasty.

1128
00:38:33.750 –> 00:38:34.869
Speaker:
And so I’m like, well, what the

1129
00:38:34.869 –> 00:38:36.090
Speaker:
heck are these things doing in

1130
00:38:36.090 –> 00:38:36.909
Speaker:
the house?

1131
00:38:36.909 –> 00:38:38.989
Speaker:
So my buddy and I, we, we get

1132
00:38:38.989 –> 00:38:40.550
Speaker:
down and we basically get rid of

1133
00:38:40.550 –> 00:38:41.070
Speaker:
these things.

1134
00:38:41.070 –> 00:38:41.989
Speaker:
All right.

1135
00:38:41.989 –> 00:38:42.710
Speaker:
Okay.

1136
00:38:42.710 –> 00:38:45.030
Speaker:
And we’re going through the
whole house and we’re cleaning

1137
00:38:45.030 –> 00:38:48.110
Speaker:
everything out and there’s
nobody to pass on.

1138
00:38:48.110 –> 00:38:50.909
Speaker:
There’s just a whole lot of
really bad energy in this house.

1139
00:38:50.909 –> 00:38:51.949
Speaker:
And I looked at him and I go,

1140
00:38:51.949 –> 00:38:52.989
Speaker:
there’s something else happening

1141
00:38:52.989 –> 00:38:53.300
Speaker:
here.

1142
00:38:53.300 –> 00:38:58.460
Speaker:
There’s something else in this
house, and I can’t find it.

1143
00:38:58.460 –> 00:38:59.619
Speaker:
And he says, I’ve been feeling

1144
00:38:59.619 –> 00:39:00.739
Speaker:
that way the whole time we’ve

1145
00:39:00.739 –> 00:39:01.539
Speaker:
been here.

1146
00:39:01.539 –> 00:39:04.139
Speaker:
And I said, there’s something
else, and I cannot leave because

1147
00:39:04.139 –> 00:39:06.659
Speaker:
something else is in this house
and it’s hiding from me.

1148
00:39:07.980 –> 00:39:11.840
Speaker:
So I gathered everybody in the
house up the mom, her daughter,

1149
00:39:11.840 –> 00:39:13.300
Speaker:
uh, the new boyfriend.

1150
00:39:13.300 –> 00:39:15.260
Speaker:
And I said, I need everybody to
come in here in the living room,

1151
00:39:15.260 –> 00:39:16.260
Speaker:
sit down for a second.

1152
00:39:16.260 –> 00:39:17.380
Speaker:
I need everybody to just be

1153
00:39:17.380 –> 00:39:18.519
Speaker:
quiet, because I got to go to

1154
00:39:18.519 –> 00:39:19.780
Speaker:
another place to find this

1155
00:39:19.780 –> 00:39:20.380
Speaker:
thing.

1156
00:39:20.380 –> 00:39:22.539
Speaker:
And I pulled a kitchen chair
out, and I sat it in the middle

1157
00:39:22.539 –> 00:39:25.599
Speaker:
of the floor, and I said, I just
need everybody just to sit still

1158
00:39:25.599 –> 00:39:26.940
Speaker:
and just hang on.

1159
00:39:27.980 –> 00:39:32.619
Speaker:
So I kind of went astral for a
little bit, and I went to a

1160
00:39:32.619 –> 00:39:36.900
Speaker:
different level of existence for
a moment to try to find what

1161
00:39:36.900 –> 00:39:41.059
Speaker:
this thing was in the house, and
I never could find it.

1162
00:39:41.059 –> 00:39:48.820
Speaker:
Um, what I found myself in was a
huge, um, a huge room and there

1163
00:39:48.820 –> 00:39:51.820
Speaker:
were like tapestries hanging
from the ceiling.

1164
00:39:51.820 –> 00:39:54.099
Speaker:
huge long tapestries and they

1165
00:39:54.099 –> 00:39:56.019
Speaker:
would move and create an ever

1166
00:39:56.019 –> 00:39:57.619
Speaker:
evolving labyrinth.

1167
00:39:59.539 –> 00:40:01.300
Speaker:
So as I’m walking through this,

1168
00:40:01.300 –> 00:40:03.739
Speaker:
I hear a voice who says, she’s

1169
00:40:03.739 –> 00:40:04.099
Speaker:
mine.

1170
00:40:04.099 –> 00:40:06.139
Speaker:
You’re never going to get her
back.

1171
00:40:06.139 –> 00:40:09.260
Speaker:
And I said, you don’t understand
who you’re dealing with.

1172
00:40:09.260 –> 00:40:12.059
Speaker:
Once I get through this maze and
I find you, you’re going to be

1173
00:40:12.059 –> 00:40:13.139
Speaker:
in a world of hurt.

1174
00:40:13.139 –> 00:40:15.619
Speaker:
And yes, you will be letting go
of her.

1175
00:40:15.619 –> 00:40:17.099
Speaker:
We’re taking her back.

1176
00:40:17.099 –> 00:40:17.980
Speaker:
Mhm.

1177
00:40:17.980 –> 00:40:20.820
Speaker:
And he says you will never get
her back.

1178
00:40:20.820 –> 00:40:23.659
Speaker:
She’s mine, and I’m keeping her.

1179
00:40:23.659 –> 00:40:27.420
Speaker:
And I said, buddy, you just said
the wrong words.

1180
00:40:27.420 –> 00:40:30.659
Speaker:
Well, I have kind of like a

1181
00:40:30.659 –> 00:40:32.780
Speaker:
working agreement with the

1182
00:40:32.780 –> 00:40:35.460
Speaker:
Archangel Michael who does this

1183
00:40:35.460 –> 00:40:37.139
Speaker:
kind of stuff because it’s his

1184
00:40:37.139 –> 00:40:37.820
Speaker:
job.

1185
00:40:39.059 –> 00:40:41.460
Speaker:
And he and about twenty of his

1186
00:40:41.460 –> 00:40:43.860
Speaker:
fellows came in and whooshed

1187
00:40:43.860 –> 00:40:46.219
Speaker:
over my shoulder and went in and

1188
00:40:46.219 –> 00:40:48.420
Speaker:
everything disappeared.

1189
00:40:48.420 –> 00:40:51.329
Speaker:
And I’m like, okay, I want to
get into some of that too.

1190
00:40:51.329 –> 00:40:52.329
Speaker:
Hey, this is my fight.

1191
00:40:52.329 –> 00:40:53.369
Speaker:
I was the one who showed up

1192
00:40:53.369 –> 00:40:55.289
Speaker:
here, and I started going

1193
00:40:55.289 –> 00:40:55.610
Speaker:
forward.

1194
00:40:55.610 –> 00:40:57.530
Speaker:
I was like, I’m going to follow
them in there, and I want to get

1195
00:40:57.530 –> 00:40:59.289
Speaker:
my taste of this right.

1196
00:40:59.289 –> 00:41:01.929
Speaker:
Well, another angel came in and
grabbed me and she said, you

1197
00:41:01.929 –> 00:41:02.610
Speaker:
can’t go in there.

1198
00:41:02.610 –> 00:41:04.969
Speaker:
And I go, no, wait, this is my
job.

1199
00:41:04.969 –> 00:41:06.170
Speaker:
This is what I do.

1200
00:41:06.170 –> 00:41:08.329
Speaker:
This is what I’m going to, I’m
going to have fun with this.

1201
00:41:08.329 –> 00:41:09.650
Speaker:
This guy defied me.

1202
00:41:09.650 –> 00:41:12.690
Speaker:
I’m going to go in there and I’m
going to take my licks out too.

1203
00:41:12.690 –> 00:41:15.730
Speaker:
And she said, you were never
supposed to take care of this.

1204
00:41:15.730 –> 00:41:19.210
Speaker:
We just needed you to open the
doors so we could get to it.

1205
00:41:19.210 –> 00:41:19.969
Speaker:
Mhm.

1206
00:41:19.969 –> 00:41:20.530
Speaker:
Okay.

1207
00:41:20.530 –> 00:41:22.929
Speaker:
And I said, well, that’s kind of
no fun on my part.

1208
00:41:22.929 –> 00:41:24.610
Speaker:
And she goes, no, no, no, you

1209
00:41:24.610 –> 00:41:26.329
Speaker:
allowed this to be taken care of

1210
00:41:26.329 –> 00:41:26.650
Speaker:
tonight.

1211
00:41:26.650 –> 00:41:28.210
Speaker:
It was because of you and your

1212
00:41:28.210 –> 00:41:30.110
Speaker:
abilities that you allowed us to

1213
00:41:30.110 –> 00:41:31.610
Speaker:
get in the door so we could go

1214
00:41:31.610 –> 00:41:32.670
Speaker:
in there and get this thing out

1215
00:41:32.670 –> 00:41:32.969
Speaker:
of here.

1216
00:41:32.969 –> 00:41:34.090
Speaker:
Trust me, it’s over.

1217
00:41:34.090 –> 00:41:35.329
Speaker:
You said it in motion.

1218
00:41:35.329 –> 00:41:36.090
Speaker:
Yeah.

1219
00:41:36.090 –> 00:41:36.809
Speaker:
Yes.

1220
00:41:36.809 –> 00:41:40.210
Speaker:
You were the the key that
unlocked the door, that allowed

1221
00:41:40.210 –> 00:41:42.170
Speaker:
us to make this happen.

1222
00:41:42.170 –> 00:41:44.969
Speaker:
And I said, okay, as long as I
did some good tonight, then

1223
00:41:44.969 –> 00:41:45.769
Speaker:
that’s all I care about.

1224
00:41:45.769 –> 00:41:46.849
Speaker:
You know, I just wanted to make
good.

1225
00:41:46.849 –> 00:41:49.650
Speaker:
But trust me, I wanted to get my
licks in on this thing, right?

1226
00:41:50.849 –> 00:41:55.210
Speaker:
So now next thing I know, I’m
back in my chair and I’m looking

1227
00:41:55.210 –> 00:41:58.050
Speaker:
around the room and everyone is
gawking at me.

1228
00:41:58.050 –> 00:42:01.210
Speaker:
I mean, they’re looking at me
like I just grew horns, right?

1229
00:42:01.210 –> 00:42:02.570
Speaker:
And I’m like, what?

1230
00:42:02.570 –> 00:42:03.010
Speaker:
What?

1231
00:42:03.010 –> 00:42:04.929
Speaker:
What are you all staring at?

1232
00:42:04.929 –> 00:42:07.409
Speaker:
And they’re like, wherever you
went, whatever you did.

1233
00:42:07.409 –> 00:42:12.210
Speaker:
We felt that in this room, this
room changed the tone, the

1234
00:42:12.210 –> 00:42:15.690
Speaker:
humidity, the temperature, the
lighting, everything in this

1235
00:42:15.690 –> 00:42:17.690
Speaker:
room became so much different.

1236
00:42:17.690 –> 00:42:21.369
Speaker:
Wherever it was, you went
affected here.

1237
00:42:21.369 –> 00:42:24.690
Speaker:
And I went, well, okay, well,
then I know I’m not making that

1238
00:42:24.690 –> 00:42:25.610
Speaker:
crap up, right?

1239
00:42:25.610 –> 00:42:31.929
Speaker:
Right now, the girl, the
fourteen or fifteen year old

1240
00:42:31.929 –> 00:42:36.289
Speaker:
girl that was there when we
showed up that night, she had

1241
00:42:36.289 –> 00:42:39.650
Speaker:
about the mental capacity of an
eight or nine year old.

1242
00:42:39.650 –> 00:42:41.369
Speaker:
Psychologically speaking, and

1243
00:42:41.369 –> 00:42:42.809
Speaker:
you can talk to some

1244
00:42:42.809 –> 00:42:44.730
Speaker:
psychiatrists and psychologists

1245
00:42:44.730 –> 00:42:45.849
Speaker:
about this.

1246
00:42:45.849 –> 00:42:48.880
Speaker:
Oftentimes, if you have a person
who is not acting their

1247
00:42:48.880 –> 00:42:55.079
Speaker:
biological age, it sometimes can
indicate in some instances, I’m

1248
00:42:55.079 –> 00:42:57.239
Speaker:
not going to say it’s always.

1249
00:42:57.239 –> 00:43:01.400
Speaker:
Sometimes it refers to some kind
of abuse as a child.

1250
00:43:01.400 –> 00:43:05.840
Speaker:
And so because the child had to
endure some kind of abuse at a

1251
00:43:05.840 –> 00:43:09.119
Speaker:
particular age, they kind of,
you know, had to, like, go

1252
00:43:09.119 –> 00:43:11.360
Speaker:
someplace else in their mind for
a while while things were

1253
00:43:11.360 –> 00:43:13.239
Speaker:
happening to them.

1254
00:43:13.239 –> 00:43:18.559
Speaker:
And so oftentimes they don’t
emotionally mature past that

1255
00:43:18.559 –> 00:43:20.880
Speaker:
point to very far.

1256
00:43:20.880 –> 00:43:23.920
Speaker:
So when I showed up that night,
I’m like, okay, I wonder what’s

1257
00:43:23.920 –> 00:43:27.159
Speaker:
been happening with this person
because she’s not acting

1258
00:43:27.159 –> 00:43:29.039
Speaker:
fourteen or fifteen.

1259
00:43:29.039 –> 00:43:31.599
Speaker:
She’s acting nine.

1260
00:43:31.599 –> 00:43:33.360
Speaker:
And I thought, okay, well, I

1261
00:43:33.360 –> 00:43:34.559
Speaker:
can’t say anything about this

1262
00:43:34.559 –> 00:43:36.239
Speaker:
right now, but, uh, this is

1263
00:43:36.239 –> 00:43:37.000
Speaker:
something that’s very

1264
00:43:37.000 –> 00:43:37.679
Speaker:
interesting.

1265
00:43:37.679 –> 00:43:42.559
Speaker:
Well, by the end of the night,
after I had gone in there and,

1266
00:43:42.559 –> 00:43:47.079
Speaker:
and done all that extra work
Suddenly now there was a fifteen

1267
00:43:47.079 –> 00:43:48.320
Speaker:
year old girl in the room.

1268
00:43:49.440 –> 00:43:50.719
Speaker:
I know it sounds crazy.

1269
00:43:50.719 –> 00:43:51.800
Speaker:
I know it sounds weird.

1270
00:43:51.800 –> 00:43:55.159
Speaker:
And I’m sure to your listeners,
it sounds like I’m making this

1271
00:43:55.159 –> 00:43:55.760
Speaker:
whole thing up.

1272
00:43:55.760 –> 00:44:01.760
Speaker:
But there’s there were three
other people in that house that

1273
00:44:01.760 –> 00:44:03.119
Speaker:
all saw the same thing.

1274
00:44:03.119 –> 00:44:06.079
Speaker:
And it’s like, okay, this girl
has returned back to normal.

1275
00:44:06.079 –> 00:44:09.679
Speaker:
Now she’s acting her age now.

1276
00:44:09.679 –> 00:44:10.880
Speaker:
And it was just, it was just one

1277
00:44:10.880 –> 00:44:12.440
Speaker:
of those very weird instances

1278
00:44:12.440 –> 00:44:14.500
Speaker:
where I can say, yeah, you know,

1279
00:44:14.500 –> 00:44:15.719
Speaker:
over the course of time of doing

1280
00:44:15.719 –> 00:44:17.679
Speaker:
this, I’ve run into some, some

1281
00:44:17.679 –> 00:44:20.480
Speaker:
really weird, goofy, wicked

1282
00:44:20.480 –> 00:44:21.320
Speaker:
stuff.

1283
00:44:21.320 –> 00:44:22.400
Speaker:
And that was one of those times

1284
00:44:22.400 –> 00:44:25.039
Speaker:
where I can say, yeah, this is

1285
00:44:25.039 –> 00:44:27.440
Speaker:
why I do this job is because of

1286
00:44:27.440 –> 00:44:27.920
Speaker:
this.

1287
00:44:27.920 –> 00:44:32.440
Speaker:
Wow, this, this is why I took on
this role is because I can save

1288
00:44:32.440 –> 00:44:33.679
Speaker:
people from that.

1289
00:44:33.679 –> 00:44:34.360
Speaker:
Mhm.

1290
00:44:34.360 –> 00:44:35.360
Speaker:
Where you’re making an actual

1291
00:44:35.360 –> 00:44:36.840
Speaker:
difference in their lives, you

1292
00:44:36.840 –> 00:44:37.840
Speaker:
know, you’re making a

1293
00:44:37.840 –> 00:44:38.239
Speaker:
difference.

1294
00:44:38.239 –> 00:44:42.699
Speaker:
I’m improving the conditions of
people’s existence in a way that

1295
00:44:42.699 –> 00:44:46.510
Speaker:
it Very few people can can
affect in that way.

1296
00:44:46.510 –> 00:44:49.869
Speaker:
And so I go, okay, this is this
is why I’m here.

1297
00:44:49.869 –> 00:44:53.630
Speaker:
And so that’s why I do these
things.

1298
00:44:53.630 –> 00:44:55.909
Speaker:
And you’ve done a how many cases

1299
00:44:55.909 –> 00:44:57.190
Speaker:
have you done in the area over

1300
00:44:57.190 –> 00:44:58.670
Speaker:
the years?

1301
00:44:58.670 –> 00:44:59.989
Speaker:
Oh, geez.

1302
00:45:01.429 –> 00:45:03.949
Speaker:
Probably probably one hundred
and fifty.

1303
00:45:03.949 –> 00:45:04.630
Speaker:
Oh wow.

1304
00:45:04.630 –> 00:45:05.190
Speaker:
That many.

1305
00:45:05.190 –> 00:45:05.909
Speaker:
Wow.

1306
00:45:05.909 –> 00:45:06.429
Speaker:
Yeah.

1307
00:45:06.429 –> 00:45:10.949
Speaker:
I, I used to I used to keep like
a running journal of them.

1308
00:45:10.949 –> 00:45:12.030
Speaker:
And it just got to the point

1309
00:45:12.030 –> 00:45:13.670
Speaker:
where, okay, I, I’m not even

1310
00:45:13.670 –> 00:45:14.829
Speaker:
writing them down anymore

1311
00:45:14.829 –> 00:45:16.110
Speaker:
because we would go and we’ll be

1312
00:45:16.110 –> 00:45:17.010
Speaker:
there for like an hour and a

1313
00:45:17.010 –> 00:45:17.190
Speaker:
half.

1314
00:45:17.190 –> 00:45:18.150
Speaker:
I was like, oh, yeah, yeah.

1315
00:45:18.150 –> 00:45:19.510
Speaker:
You got somebody to cross over
here?

1316
00:45:19.510 –> 00:45:19.949
Speaker:
Bingo.

1317
00:45:19.949 –> 00:45:20.789
Speaker:
Get them across.

1318
00:45:20.789 –> 00:45:22.230
Speaker:
And and that’s it.

1319
00:45:22.230 –> 00:45:24.630
Speaker:
And I used to write them down.

1320
00:45:24.630 –> 00:45:25.389
Speaker:
And then I just started

1321
00:45:25.389 –> 00:45:26.670
Speaker:
forgetting to come in and write

1322
00:45:26.670 –> 00:45:27.469
Speaker:
them down.

1323
00:45:27.469 –> 00:45:29.269
Speaker:
And the next thing you know, I
was like, okay, what was the

1324
00:45:29.269 –> 00:45:30.869
Speaker:
last six houses we just did?

1325
00:45:30.869 –> 00:45:32.230
Speaker:
And my wife were like, I can’t
remember.

1326
00:45:32.230 –> 00:45:34.750
Speaker:
There was that one dude with
that one place and that one

1327
00:45:34.750 –> 00:45:38.030
Speaker:
thing, just another paranormal
investigation, you know?

1328
00:45:38.030 –> 00:45:38.829
Speaker:
Yeah.

1329
00:45:38.829 –> 00:45:42.940
Speaker:
Uh, actually, um, I think it was
a year ago.

1330
00:45:42.940 –> 00:45:47.340
Speaker:
Uh, my wife and I went to a
house, uh, at another smaller

1331
00:45:47.340 –> 00:45:48.619
Speaker:
town east of here.

1332
00:45:48.619 –> 00:45:49.219
Speaker:
Mhm.

1333
00:45:49.219 –> 00:45:53.500
Speaker:
And, um, it was, uh, it was in
Boonville.

1334
00:45:53.500 –> 00:45:54.340
Speaker:
And.

1335
00:45:54.340 –> 00:45:54.860
Speaker:
Okay.

1336
00:45:54.860 –> 00:45:56.019
Speaker:
There was this eighty year old

1337
00:45:56.019 –> 00:45:58.739
Speaker:
guy there, and his wife had

1338
00:45:58.739 –> 00:46:03.099
Speaker:
died, and he and his wife had

1339
00:46:03.099 –> 00:46:04.099
Speaker:
always felt like there was some

1340
00:46:04.099 –> 00:46:05.219
Speaker:
stuff happening in the house

1341
00:46:05.219 –> 00:46:06.340
Speaker:
anyway.

1342
00:46:06.340 –> 00:46:07.179
Speaker:
And.

1343
00:46:07.179 –> 00:46:07.460
Speaker:
Okay.

1344
00:46:07.460 –> 00:46:08.780
Speaker:
You know, it happens in every
house.

1345
00:46:08.780 –> 00:46:11.139
Speaker:
I mean, people it people are

1346
00:46:11.139 –> 00:46:12.579
Speaker:
under the impression nowadays

1347
00:46:12.579 –> 00:46:15.260
Speaker:
that, like, when you die, you go

1348
00:46:15.260 –> 00:46:15.860
Speaker:
someplace else.

1349
00:46:15.860 –> 00:46:17.780
Speaker:
Way, way far away on the other
side of the universe.

1350
00:46:17.780 –> 00:46:20.820
Speaker:
You’re someplace totally
different that’s not even here.

1351
00:46:20.820 –> 00:46:23.539
Speaker:
And you’re over there somewhere,
wearing a white robe, playing a

1352
00:46:23.539 –> 00:46:25.940
Speaker:
harp, and you’re on a cloud and
everything is just glorious and

1353
00:46:25.940 –> 00:46:27.860
Speaker:
happy and and romantic.

1354
00:46:27.860 –> 00:46:30.059
Speaker:
And that’s not how it is.

1355
00:46:30.059 –> 00:46:31.340
Speaker:
You unzip the meat soup and

1356
00:46:31.340 –> 00:46:32.420
Speaker:
you’re still walking around

1357
00:46:32.420 –> 00:46:33.300
Speaker:
here.

1358
00:46:33.300 –> 00:46:35.099
Speaker:
I mean, you can go to any

1359
00:46:35.099 –> 00:46:36.340
Speaker:
restaurant and kind of open up

1360
00:46:36.340 –> 00:46:37.420
Speaker:
your senses.

1361
00:46:37.420 –> 00:46:41.059
Speaker:
And there might be eight people
eating in the restaurant, and

1362
00:46:41.059 –> 00:46:43.460
Speaker:
four of them might have somebody
standing next to them.

1363
00:46:45.099 –> 00:46:48.059
Speaker:
And so it’s not like, oh, jeez,

1364
00:46:48.059 –> 00:46:49.059
Speaker:
there’s a dead person in the

1365
00:46:49.059 –> 00:46:49.260
Speaker:
room.

1366
00:46:49.260 –> 00:46:50.059
Speaker:
How unique.

1367
00:46:50.059 –> 00:46:51.940
Speaker:
And like, no, it’s not unique at
all.

1368
00:46:51.940 –> 00:46:54.460
Speaker:
It’s this is every day.

1369
00:46:54.460 –> 00:46:57.659
Speaker:
So we go to this house and, you
know, this, this eighty year old

1370
00:46:57.659 –> 00:47:00.019
Speaker:
guy, he’s, you know, he’s, I got
my wife has died.

1371
00:47:00.019 –> 00:47:02.539
Speaker:
And, you know, things have kind
of ramped up since then.

1372
00:47:02.539 –> 00:47:04.900
Speaker:
And I got this, this, this new
girlfriend.

1373
00:47:04.900 –> 00:47:09.699
Speaker:
And, and I’m, I’m, I’m looking
at the new girlfriend and she’s

1374
00:47:09.699 –> 00:47:12.699
Speaker:
like, younger than me, okay.

1375
00:47:12.699 –> 00:47:14.619
Speaker:
And I, I mean, it’s not, it’s

1376
00:47:14.619 –> 00:47:16.019
Speaker:
not too difficult to figure the

1377
00:47:16.019 –> 00:47:16.619
Speaker:
picture out.

1378
00:47:16.619 –> 00:47:17.980
Speaker:
No, she’s.

1379
00:47:17.980 –> 00:47:19.380
Speaker:
Yeah, yeah.

1380
00:47:19.380 –> 00:47:22.659
Speaker:
You know, the old lady is kind
of messed up about this.

1381
00:47:22.659 –> 00:47:23.579
Speaker:
And I’m like, okay.

1382
00:47:23.579 –> 00:47:24.739
Speaker:
And I’m looking at my wife and

1383
00:47:24.739 –> 00:47:26.260
Speaker:
we’re both thinking gold digger,

1384
00:47:26.260 –> 00:47:28.059
Speaker:
you know, she’s, she’s like

1385
00:47:28.059 –> 00:47:28.699
Speaker:
fifty.

1386
00:47:28.699 –> 00:47:29.699
Speaker:
He’s eighty.

1387
00:47:29.699 –> 00:47:31.260
Speaker:
She’s sitting there smoking
cigarettes.

1388
00:47:31.260 –> 00:47:33.579
Speaker:
And you’re like, yeah, we got
you pegged, babe.

1389
00:47:33.579 –> 00:47:34.659
Speaker:
We’ve got, you know, we’ve got

1390
00:47:34.659 –> 00:47:36.099
Speaker:
your, we got your number written

1391
00:47:36.099 –> 00:47:36.699
Speaker:
out.

1392
00:47:36.699 –> 00:47:38.289
Speaker:
And so they’re like.

1393
00:47:38.289 –> 00:47:41.929
Speaker:
MM. And you feel kind of like
your, your dead wife is, uh,

1394
00:47:41.929 –> 00:47:44.650
Speaker:
kind of in the house kind of
throwing things around at you.

1395
00:47:44.650 –> 00:47:45.449
Speaker:
Huh.

1396
00:47:45.449 –> 00:47:47.489
Speaker:
And he, he, he’s not really
getting it.

1397
00:47:47.489 –> 00:47:48.769
Speaker:
And we’re hinting around about

1398
00:47:48.769 –> 00:47:50.250
Speaker:
it and he’s like, well, I think

1399
00:47:50.250 –> 00:47:51.570
Speaker:
she’s, I think she’s kind of

1400
00:47:51.570 –> 00:47:52.789
Speaker:
pissed because I’m, you know,

1401
00:47:52.789 –> 00:47:55.250
Speaker:
um, well, this weekend we’re

1402
00:47:55.250 –> 00:47:56.369
Speaker:
going to go to Vegas and get

1403
00:47:56.369 –> 00:47:56.650
Speaker:
married.

1404
00:47:56.650 –> 00:47:59.849
Speaker:
And I’m like, oh, you think, are
you serious?

1405
00:47:59.849 –> 00:48:02.130
Speaker:
And we’re looking at each other
like, oh, this is this is

1406
00:48:02.130 –> 00:48:03.849
Speaker:
glorious, you know?

1407
00:48:03.849 –> 00:48:04.050
Speaker:
Yeah.

1408
00:48:04.050 –> 00:48:04.489
Speaker:
Okay.

1409
00:48:04.489 –> 00:48:08.130
Speaker:
So I can’t imagine why the, the

1410
00:48:08.130 –> 00:48:09.610
Speaker:
old lady who spent her life with

1411
00:48:09.610 –> 00:48:11.449
Speaker:
this guy would be pissed that

1412
00:48:11.449 –> 00:48:13.210
Speaker:
he’s now, you know, being duped

1413
00:48:13.210 –> 00:48:14.570
Speaker:
by this gold digger who’s going

1414
00:48:14.570 –> 00:48:15.849
Speaker:
to come in there and take his

1415
00:48:15.849 –> 00:48:17.329
Speaker:
his house and his fortune and

1416
00:48:17.329 –> 00:48:18.130
Speaker:
everything else, because, you

1417
00:48:18.130 –> 00:48:19.190
Speaker:
know, he’s not got many more

1418
00:48:19.190 –> 00:48:20.690
Speaker:
years left.

1419
00:48:20.690 –> 00:48:25.570
Speaker:
And, uh, so, you know, okay, so
but there’s more to this story.

1420
00:48:25.570 –> 00:48:27.969
Speaker:
I keep feeling that there’s more
layers going on.

1421
00:48:27.969 –> 00:48:29.210
Speaker:
And he says, the whole time I’ve

1422
00:48:29.210 –> 00:48:30.329
Speaker:
lived in this house, I felt like

1423
00:48:30.329 –> 00:48:31.610
Speaker:
there’s a couple of guys here

1424
00:48:31.610 –> 00:48:32.730
Speaker:
that were some really, really

1425
00:48:32.730 –> 00:48:33.289
Speaker:
mean guys.

1426
00:48:33.289 –> 00:48:34.409
Speaker:
And they’re not they’re not

1427
00:48:34.409 –> 00:48:36.010
Speaker:
really happy with me here

1428
00:48:36.010 –> 00:48:37.449
Speaker:
either.

1429
00:48:37.449 –> 00:48:37.690
Speaker:
man.

1430
00:48:37.690 –> 00:48:40.010
Speaker:
I’m walking through this little
house and I’m like, yeah.

1431
00:48:40.010 –> 00:48:40.289
Speaker:
Yep.

1432
00:48:40.289 –> 00:48:42.650
Speaker:
I kind of feel that, too.

1433
00:48:42.650 –> 00:48:43.730
Speaker:
I know these guys weren’t

1434
00:48:43.730 –> 00:48:45.250
Speaker:
really, really awesome when they

1435
00:48:45.250 –> 00:48:45.769
Speaker:
were alive.

1436
00:48:45.769 –> 00:48:47.849
Speaker:
These guys were real, you know,
meatheads.

1437
00:48:47.849 –> 00:48:48.289
Speaker:
Mhm.

1438
00:48:48.289 –> 00:48:52.809
Speaker:
And they didn’t live any time
soon.

1439
00:48:52.809 –> 00:48:55.110
Speaker:
These guys are, you know,

1440
00:48:55.110 –> 00:48:56.969
Speaker:
seventeen, eighteen hundreds or

1441
00:48:56.969 –> 00:48:57.690
Speaker:
whatever.

1442
00:48:58.769 –> 00:49:01.730
Speaker:
Come to find out, by the time we
get done with this, we were

1443
00:49:01.730 –> 00:49:03.329
Speaker:
there for three hours.

1444
00:49:04.409 –> 00:49:08.170
Speaker:
These were the sons of a white

1445
00:49:08.170 –> 00:49:10.489
Speaker:
settler who had come into this

1446
00:49:10.489 –> 00:49:11.610
Speaker:
area.

1447
00:49:11.610 –> 00:49:13.110
Speaker:
And the old man had said, yeah,

1448
00:49:13.110 –> 00:49:14.590
Speaker:
there’s one hundred and sixty

1449
00:49:14.590 –> 00:49:16.389
Speaker:
acres attached to this house,

1450
00:49:16.389 –> 00:49:17.769
Speaker:
but I don’t go to any of them

1451
00:49:17.769 –> 00:49:18.730
Speaker:
because I don’t like being on

1452
00:49:18.730 –> 00:49:19.210
Speaker:
the property.

1453
00:49:19.210 –> 00:49:22.210
Speaker:
I stay in the house because I
feel better here.

1454
00:49:24.050 –> 00:49:27.130
Speaker:
And so there’s one hundred and
sixty acres here in this, this,

1455
00:49:27.130 –> 00:49:30.929
Speaker:
this whole plot of land.

1456
00:49:30.929 –> 00:49:34.530
Speaker:
These two guys who were still in
this house were the sons of this

1457
00:49:34.530 –> 00:49:39.519
Speaker:
white settler who had come in
from the East and decided this

1458
00:49:39.519 –> 00:49:42.960
Speaker:
was the perfect plot of land,
and he’s just going to take it.

1459
00:49:42.960 –> 00:49:45.280
Speaker:
Well, there happened to be a
small little tribe of Indians

1460
00:49:45.280 –> 00:49:49.159
Speaker:
here, probably about one hundred
to two hundred Native Americans

1461
00:49:49.159 –> 00:49:51.940
Speaker:
who were living here, and their
people had been here for

1462
00:49:51.940 –> 00:49:55.039
Speaker:
thousands of years, and they had
lived on the land and raised

1463
00:49:55.039 –> 00:49:56.559
Speaker:
their horses and all that.

1464
00:49:57.760 –> 00:49:58.760
Speaker:
And in the middle of the night,

1465
00:49:58.760 –> 00:50:01.079
Speaker:
one night, this guy come in and

1466
00:50:01.079 –> 00:50:01.980
Speaker:
slaughtered the whole damn

1467
00:50:01.980 –> 00:50:02.760
Speaker:
tribe.

1468
00:50:02.760 –> 00:50:04.000
Speaker:
Oh, wow.

1469
00:50:04.000 –> 00:50:05.559
Speaker:
Lined them all up, slaughtered

1470
00:50:05.559 –> 00:50:08.000
Speaker:
them, and instead of giving them

1471
00:50:08.000 –> 00:50:09.800
Speaker:
their proper burial, he just

1472
00:50:09.800 –> 00:50:10.960
Speaker:
piled them all up and burnt

1473
00:50:10.960 –> 00:50:11.920
Speaker:
them.

1474
00:50:11.920 –> 00:50:13.639
Speaker:
So now, as we.

1475
00:50:13.639 –> 00:50:15.079
Speaker:
He says, yeah.

1476
00:50:15.079 –> 00:50:17.800
Speaker:
He says, if I if if you go out
the back door there.

1477
00:50:17.800 –> 00:50:18.880
Speaker:
See where that swing is?

1478
00:50:18.880 –> 00:50:20.320
Speaker:
He goes, you go a little bit
further than that.

1479
00:50:20.320 –> 00:50:21.639
Speaker:
You’re going to feel what I’m
talking about.

1480
00:50:21.639 –> 00:50:23.519
Speaker:
He goes, it don’t feel right out
there.

1481
00:50:23.519 –> 00:50:25.300
Speaker:
So my wife and I go out and oh

1482
00:50:25.300 –> 00:50:26.559
Speaker:
my God, you want to talk about

1483
00:50:26.559 –> 00:50:28.079
Speaker:
the misery and sorrow and the

1484
00:50:28.079 –> 00:50:30.760
Speaker:
absolute, just the anger and the

1485
00:50:30.760 –> 00:50:32.699
Speaker:
fury and the hatred and the

1486
00:50:32.699 –> 00:50:33.800
Speaker:
Grief.

1487
00:50:35.280 –> 00:50:37.320
Speaker:
And so I’m looking around and I
go, Holy cow.

1488
00:50:37.320 –> 00:50:38.679
Speaker:
We picked up on the the whole

1489
00:50:38.679 –> 00:50:40.039
Speaker:
picture like he slaughtered

1490
00:50:40.039 –> 00:50:41.920
Speaker:
these people.

1491
00:50:41.920 –> 00:50:45.639
Speaker:
This dude, he lined them all up
in the middle of the night and

1492
00:50:45.639 –> 00:50:46.400
Speaker:
just went out.

1493
00:50:46.400 –> 00:50:49.840
Speaker:
He just, you know, he went up
out of him like Pol Pot.

1494
00:50:49.840 –> 00:50:51.920
Speaker:
He just lined him up and just
shot him all.

1495
00:50:51.920 –> 00:50:55.119
Speaker:
And then just, just put him in a
heap and burn them and said,

1496
00:50:55.119 –> 00:50:56.440
Speaker:
what’s my land now?

1497
00:50:58.440 –> 00:51:03.360
Speaker:
And so my wife and I, we put out
the call that day, and we called

1498
00:51:03.360 –> 00:51:07.280
Speaker:
in the light and said, okay, you
can’t have your mound.

1499
00:51:07.280 –> 00:51:08.559
Speaker:
That time has passed, but we’re

1500
00:51:08.559 –> 00:51:09.599
Speaker:
going to let you go to the Great

1501
00:51:09.599 –> 00:51:11.280
Speaker:
Spirit.

1502
00:51:11.280 –> 00:51:16.400
Speaker:
And we looked out and what we
could see was mothers gathering

1503
00:51:16.400 –> 00:51:17.440
Speaker:
up their children.

1504
00:51:17.440 –> 00:51:20.159
Speaker:
We could see the men stomping
out the campfires.

1505
00:51:20.159 –> 00:51:23.440
Speaker:
We saw people gathering up their
drums and rattles, and they were

1506
00:51:23.440 –> 00:51:26.559
Speaker:
all heading in toward the light
and going home.

1507
00:51:26.559 –> 00:51:29.139
Speaker:
And there was probably a, I

1508
00:51:29.139 –> 00:51:30.300
Speaker:
would say, at least one hundred

1509
00:51:30.300 –> 00:51:32.150
Speaker:
and fifty, maybe bordering on

1510
00:51:32.150 –> 00:51:34.510
Speaker:
two hundred people men, women

1511
00:51:34.510 –> 00:51:36.389
Speaker:
and children, all basically

1512
00:51:36.389 –> 00:51:37.510
Speaker:
gathering up their stuff and

1513
00:51:37.510 –> 00:51:39.030
Speaker:
going home.

1514
00:51:39.030 –> 00:51:40.809
Speaker:
And we sat there for like twenty

1515
00:51:40.809 –> 00:51:42.110
Speaker:
five minutes while they were

1516
00:51:42.110 –> 00:51:44.230
Speaker:
parading past us and just

1517
00:51:44.230 –> 00:51:44.949
Speaker:
sobbed.

1518
00:51:46.590 –> 00:51:48.110
Speaker:
It’s actually making me tear up

1519
00:51:48.110 –> 00:51:49.349
Speaker:
a little bit just talking about

1520
00:51:49.349 –> 00:51:49.829
Speaker:
it.

1521
00:51:49.829 –> 00:51:53.389
Speaker:
It was, um, it was really
emotional.

1522
00:51:54.510 –> 00:51:56.630
Speaker:
And of course, you know, we went
back into the house and we were

1523
00:51:56.630 –> 00:51:58.869
Speaker:
talking to the guy like, I think
we’ve, I think we’ve got

1524
00:51:58.869 –> 00:52:00.710
Speaker:
everything taken care of out
there in the yard.

1525
00:52:00.710 –> 00:52:02.989
Speaker:
I think you’re going to be okay
from now on.

1526
00:52:02.989 –> 00:52:08.550
Speaker:
And, uh, you know, we, it was
something that probably just

1527
00:52:08.550 –> 00:52:13.090
Speaker:
needed to be kept to ourselves
at that point, but it was, um,

1528
00:52:13.090 –> 00:52:17.150
Speaker:
that was the first time we’d
ever crossed more than like one

1529
00:52:17.150 –> 00:52:18.829
Speaker:
or two people at one time.

1530
00:52:19.989 –> 00:52:24.630
Speaker:
And, um, that was a, you know,
that was a horrific event that

1531
00:52:24.630 –> 00:52:29.550
Speaker:
we had to go clean up because
somebody else had done something

1532
00:52:29.550 –> 00:52:34.150
Speaker:
so nefarious and so horrifying
that people still couldn’t find

1533
00:52:34.150 –> 00:52:35.789
Speaker:
their way home after that.

1534
00:52:35.789 –> 00:52:38.070
Speaker:
And so not only are you doing a
service for the living, you’re

1535
00:52:38.070 –> 00:52:40.829
Speaker:
also doing a service for those
who have passed like these.

1536
00:52:40.829 –> 00:52:41.949
Speaker:
These Native Americans are just

1537
00:52:41.949 –> 00:52:43.130
Speaker:
kind of stuck in this limbo

1538
00:52:43.130 –> 00:52:44.110
Speaker:
world where, you know, for

1539
00:52:44.110 –> 00:52:45.889
Speaker:
hundreds of years and, and you

1540
00:52:45.889 –> 00:52:46.909
Speaker:
allowed them to be able to move

1541
00:52:46.909 –> 00:52:47.869
Speaker:
on and.

1542
00:52:47.869 –> 00:52:49.190
Speaker:
Yes.

1543
00:52:49.190 –> 00:52:49.590
Speaker:
Yes.

1544
00:52:49.590 –> 00:52:51.030
Speaker:
That’s amazing.

1545
00:52:51.030 –> 00:52:53.550
Speaker:
And that, you know, that’s what
I tell people on the phone.

1546
00:52:53.550 –> 00:52:54.590
Speaker:
And then whenever they say,

1547
00:52:54.590 –> 00:52:55.750
Speaker:
look, I think I got a demon in

1548
00:52:55.750 –> 00:52:57.230
Speaker:
my house and like, no, no, you

1549
00:52:57.230 –> 00:52:58.469
Speaker:
probably don’t.

1550
00:52:58.469 –> 00:52:59.670
Speaker:
You probably just have an angry

1551
00:52:59.670 –> 00:53:00.949
Speaker:
person in your home, but we’re

1552
00:53:00.949 –> 00:53:02.289
Speaker:
going to bring peace to you and

1553
00:53:02.289 –> 00:53:04.230
Speaker:
them, and we’re going to do it

1554
00:53:04.230 –> 00:53:06.230
Speaker:
in a way that’s ethical and it’s

1555
00:53:06.230 –> 00:53:08.869
Speaker:
moral, and that allows everyone

1556
00:53:08.869 –> 00:53:11.429
Speaker:
to, you know, to come to terms

1557
00:53:11.429 –> 00:53:12.630
Speaker:
with where they are and what’s

1558
00:53:12.630 –> 00:53:14.190
Speaker:
going on and, and find their

1559
00:53:14.190 –> 00:53:14.750
Speaker:
peace.

1560
00:53:14.750 –> 00:53:16.190
Speaker:
And that’s what we do.

1561
00:53:16.190 –> 00:53:21.989
Speaker:
That’s what my wife and I do at
epic is, is bring peace to the

1562
00:53:21.989 –> 00:53:26.429
Speaker:
living and the dead in a way
that, that, you know, some, some

1563
00:53:26.429 –> 00:53:31.340
Speaker:
people might not be able to have
access to being able to do.

1564
00:53:31.340 –> 00:53:36.539
Speaker:
I think that most people can be
trained to do this.

1565
00:53:36.539 –> 00:53:39.820
Speaker:
If they open up their mind and
put away certain preconceived

1566
00:53:39.820 –> 00:53:43.539
Speaker:
notions about how things are and
accept how things really are.

1567
00:53:43.539 –> 00:53:50.940
Speaker:
And I think that that if the
human body and the human spirit

1568
00:53:50.940 –> 00:53:54.980
Speaker:
are built in a way that no one
can be excluded from this kind

1569
00:53:54.980 –> 00:53:58.440
Speaker:
of thing happening, or being
able to learn how to at least

1570
00:53:58.440 –> 00:54:00.059
Speaker:
see and communicate.

1571
00:54:00.059 –> 00:54:04.619
Speaker:
And this is not something where
I say, oh no, no, I’m special.

1572
00:54:04.619 –> 00:54:06.179
Speaker:
Only I can do these things.

1573
00:54:06.179 –> 00:54:08.900
Speaker:
I’m a, you know, I’m a better
and gifted person than everybody

1574
00:54:08.900 –> 00:54:10.139
Speaker:
else because that’s bull.

1575
00:54:10.139 –> 00:54:13.820
Speaker:
I was taught, you know, I saw
these things from a kid.

1576
00:54:13.820 –> 00:54:15.659
Speaker:
I mean, I, I can remember as a

1577
00:54:15.659 –> 00:54:17.659
Speaker:
kid seeing stuff like this and I

1578
00:54:17.659 –> 00:54:18.980
Speaker:
just thought it was normal to do

1579
00:54:18.980 –> 00:54:19.739
Speaker:
that.

1580
00:54:19.739 –> 00:54:22.500
Speaker:
But I’m not I’m not exceptional
by any means.

1581
00:54:22.500 –> 00:54:26.699
Speaker:
I just have a, you know, a more,

1582
00:54:26.699 –> 00:54:29.739
Speaker:
Uh, readily available acceptance

1583
00:54:29.739 –> 00:54:32.219
Speaker:
of the way the universe is

1584
00:54:32.219 –> 00:54:32.579
Speaker:
built.

1585
00:54:32.579 –> 00:54:33.860
Speaker:
And I understand it from a

1586
00:54:33.860 –> 00:54:35.940
Speaker:
spiritual and a scientific point

1587
00:54:35.940 –> 00:54:36.260
Speaker:
of view.

1588
00:54:36.260 –> 00:54:37.659
Speaker:
Or like this is quantum, this is

1589
00:54:37.659 –> 00:54:38.500
Speaker:
how the universe was

1590
00:54:38.500 –> 00:54:39.699
Speaker:
constructed.

1591
00:54:39.699 –> 00:54:41.460
Speaker:
We’re not an accident.

1592
00:54:41.460 –> 00:54:44.300
Speaker:
We’re, you know, I’ve heard
people say we’re nothing more

1593
00:54:44.300 –> 00:54:46.380
Speaker:
than just beetles scurrying
across the earth.

1594
00:54:46.380 –> 00:54:47.360
Speaker:
And when we’re dead, when

1595
00:54:47.360 –> 00:54:49.800
Speaker:
biological death occurs, we are

1596
00:54:49.800 –> 00:54:50.260
Speaker:
gone.

1597
00:54:50.260 –> 00:54:53.619
Speaker:
And I’m like, no, no, dude, I’ve
talked to enough dead people.

1598
00:54:53.619 –> 00:54:54.900
Speaker:
I disagree with you.

1599
00:54:54.900 –> 00:54:58.900
Speaker:
I, you know, and, you know, I’ve
got a real good, uh, friend of

1600
00:54:58.900 –> 00:55:04.460
Speaker:
mine who, uh, um, he teaches
metaphysics, um, at a college

1601
00:55:04.460 –> 00:55:08.860
Speaker:
around here, but he teaches it
from the Immanuel Kant.

1602
00:55:08.860 –> 00:55:10.699
Speaker:
Uh, you know, Heidegger, you

1603
00:55:10.699 –> 00:55:13.340
Speaker:
know, the moral and ethical

1604
00:55:13.340 –> 00:55:16.460
Speaker:
metaphysics of, uh, the idea of

1605
00:55:16.460 –> 00:55:17.340
Speaker:
ethics.

1606
00:55:18.340 –> 00:55:22.420
Speaker:
And, you know, his idea is
biological death is death.

1607
00:55:22.420 –> 00:55:23.179
Speaker:
That’s it.

1608
00:55:23.179 –> 00:55:25.769
Speaker:
There is no, you know, he goes.

1609
00:55:25.769 –> 00:55:27.329
Speaker:
Deepak Chopra is wrong.

1610
00:55:27.329 –> 00:55:28.449
Speaker:
There is no Atman.

1611
00:55:28.449 –> 00:55:29.369
Speaker:
There is no this and that.

1612
00:55:29.369 –> 00:55:31.690
Speaker:
He goes, he he was there’s
nothing.

1613
00:55:31.690 –> 00:55:33.329
Speaker:
We are nothing more than.

1614
00:55:33.329 –> 00:55:35.570
Speaker:
Our personalities are a series

1615
00:55:35.570 –> 00:55:36.929
Speaker:
of biological events that have

1616
00:55:36.929 –> 00:55:38.170
Speaker:
been laid down in tracts of

1617
00:55:38.170 –> 00:55:38.530
Speaker:
memory.

1618
00:55:38.530 –> 00:55:41.050
Speaker:
And once that is done, it’s
over.

1619
00:55:42.090 –> 00:55:44.250
Speaker:
And I go, okay, you know, I
respect your opinion.

1620
00:55:44.250 –> 00:55:46.929
Speaker:
I, I get that and I get why you

1621
00:55:46.929 –> 00:55:47.710
Speaker:
would think that, you know,

1622
00:55:47.710 –> 00:55:48.969
Speaker:
whenever you see mom die and

1623
00:55:48.969 –> 00:55:49.929
Speaker:
mom’s laying there on the bed

1624
00:55:49.929 –> 00:55:51.170
Speaker:
and she was breathing one moment

1625
00:55:51.170 –> 00:55:52.389
Speaker:
and the next moment the color

1626
00:55:52.389 –> 00:55:53.530
Speaker:
goes out.

1627
00:55:53.530 –> 00:55:54.090
Speaker:
Yeah.

1628
00:55:54.090 –> 00:55:56.769
Speaker:
It’s easy to say once you’re
dead, you’re frigging dead.

1629
00:55:56.769 –> 00:55:57.570
Speaker:
And that’s it.

1630
00:55:57.570 –> 00:55:58.090
Speaker:
It’s over.

1631
00:55:58.090 –> 00:56:00.170
Speaker:
But I’ve talked to enough dead

1632
00:56:00.170 –> 00:56:02.190
Speaker:
people where I, I kind of I

1633
00:56:02.190 –> 00:56:03.409
Speaker:
disagree with that, and I’m

1634
00:56:03.409 –> 00:56:04.289
Speaker:
allowed to.

1635
00:56:04.289 –> 00:56:05.610
Speaker:
Absolutely.

1636
00:56:05.610 –> 00:56:10.570
Speaker:
And when did you actually when
did you actually realize that

1637
00:56:10.570 –> 00:56:13.190
Speaker:
you had this ability to
communicate with the dead and

1638
00:56:13.190 –> 00:56:16.650
Speaker:
like, start seeing people had
passed and you said you were

1639
00:56:16.650 –> 00:56:18.369
Speaker:
very young, a child.

1640
00:56:18.369 –> 00:56:20.769
Speaker:
Oh, it’s actually kind of funny.

1641
00:56:20.769 –> 00:56:24.880
Speaker:
Um, so when I was a kid, I had
all kinds of psychic visions and

1642
00:56:24.880 –> 00:56:28.360
Speaker:
all that, and I could see aura
and color and and I had all

1643
00:56:28.360 –> 00:56:29.199
Speaker:
kinds of things.

1644
00:56:29.199 –> 00:56:33.920
Speaker:
And I, I can remember, you know,
um, one day I woke up and I

1645
00:56:33.920 –> 00:56:37.639
Speaker:
said, uh, I told my mom that,
hey, dad came in the room this

1646
00:56:37.639 –> 00:56:38.800
Speaker:
morning and talked to me.

1647
00:56:38.800 –> 00:56:40.119
Speaker:
And she said, no, he didn’t.

1648
00:56:40.119 –> 00:56:41.360
Speaker:
He never goes in your room.

1649
00:56:41.360 –> 00:56:44.960
Speaker:
In the morning, he wakes up at
five a m and there’s no way he

1650
00:56:44.960 –> 00:56:48.000
Speaker:
walked into your room and I said
he was wearing this shirt and he

1651
00:56:48.000 –> 00:56:49.480
Speaker:
was wearing this tie.

1652
00:56:49.480 –> 00:56:52.480
Speaker:
But the thing was, he didn’t
have legs, okay?

1653
00:56:52.480 –> 00:56:55.920
Speaker:
I said he looked like an oval
portrait frame was around him.

1654
00:56:55.920 –> 00:56:58.840
Speaker:
And everything around that
portrait frame was my room.

1655
00:56:58.840 –> 00:57:02.199
Speaker:
But in the portrait frame was
dad and all.

1656
00:57:02.199 –> 00:57:05.239
Speaker:
You could see what was in the
portrait frame, which was from

1657
00:57:05.239 –> 00:57:06.519
Speaker:
about the chest up.

1658
00:57:07.639 –> 00:57:09.800
Speaker:
So she said, well, I’ll prove
you wrong.

1659
00:57:09.800 –> 00:57:12.360
Speaker:
And she calls into work and
talks to my dad and she goes,

1660
00:57:12.360 –> 00:57:13.840
Speaker:
what shirt are you wearing?

1661
00:57:13.840 –> 00:57:15.119
Speaker:
And it was the shirt.

1662
00:57:15.119 –> 00:57:16.559
Speaker:
And what time are you wearing?

1663
00:57:16.559 –> 00:57:18.199
Speaker:
It was the tie.

1664
00:57:18.199 –> 00:57:19.800
Speaker:
And she said, did you go in and
hit that?

1665
00:57:19.800 –> 00:57:21.360
Speaker:
Did you go in the boys room?

1666
00:57:21.360 –> 00:57:24.079
Speaker:
He goes, I would never go in
there and wake those kids up.

1667
00:57:25.239 –> 00:57:27.039
Speaker:
And she says, how did you know
what shirt he was wearing?

1668
00:57:27.039 –> 00:57:28.039
Speaker:
I said, I’m telling you.

1669
00:57:28.039 –> 00:57:30.440
Speaker:
He came into the room, but he
didn’t have legs.

1670
00:57:32.239 –> 00:57:33.719
Speaker:
And there was another time where

1671
00:57:33.719 –> 00:57:35.880
Speaker:
she’s standing there watering

1672
00:57:35.880 –> 00:57:37.079
Speaker:
the plants while I’m having my

1673
00:57:37.079 –> 00:57:37.639
Speaker:
breakfast.

1674
00:57:37.639 –> 00:57:38.519
Speaker:
It was summertime.

1675
00:57:38.519 –> 00:57:39.559
Speaker:
I was eating breakfast a little

1676
00:57:39.559 –> 00:57:40.440
Speaker:
bit late because I’m going to go

1677
00:57:40.440 –> 00:57:41.320
Speaker:
out and spend the whole day

1678
00:57:41.320 –> 00:57:41.840
Speaker:
outside.

1679
00:57:41.840 –> 00:57:45.559
Speaker:
I’ll come back after dinner, you
know, and I’m standing there and

1680
00:57:45.559 –> 00:57:48.400
Speaker:
her aura was completely red, and
there was like flecks of yellow

1681
00:57:48.400 –> 00:57:50.199
Speaker:
and orange in it and all that.

1682
00:57:50.199 –> 00:57:51.780
Speaker:
And I said, hey, you know,

1683
00:57:51.780 –> 00:57:53.800
Speaker:
around you, like, you’re totally

1684
00:57:53.800 –> 00:57:55.559
Speaker:
putting off this, this red vibe

1685
00:57:55.559 –> 00:57:56.320
Speaker:
around you.

1686
00:57:56.320 –> 00:57:57.440
Speaker:
And there’s like flecks of

1687
00:57:57.440 –> 00:57:58.760
Speaker:
different colors moving around

1688
00:57:58.760 –> 00:57:59.559
Speaker:
in it.

1689
00:57:59.559 –> 00:58:02.320
Speaker:
And she looked over at me and
she goes, close your eyes.

1690
00:58:02.320 –> 00:58:03.320
Speaker:
You’re not seeing that.

1691
00:58:03.320 –> 00:58:06.880
Speaker:
Now shut your face, eat your
cereal and go outside and play.

1692
00:58:06.880 –> 00:58:08.000
Speaker:
Mhm.

1693
00:58:08.000 –> 00:58:09.719
Speaker:
And I stopped seeing it in color
after that.

1694
00:58:09.719 –> 00:58:12.800
Speaker:
I just stopped looking at it
that way.

1695
00:58:12.800 –> 00:58:15.159
Speaker:
So that was always happening.

1696
00:58:15.159 –> 00:58:17.119
Speaker:
I could always kind of just, you

1697
00:58:17.119 –> 00:58:18.699
Speaker:
know, you’re always sensitive to

1698
00:58:18.699 –> 00:58:18.920
Speaker:
that.

1699
00:58:18.920 –> 00:58:20.750
Speaker:
Then I was always sensitive to
it.

1700
00:58:20.750 –> 00:58:23.429
Speaker:
So I got older and started
working.

1701
00:58:23.429 –> 00:58:27.510
Speaker:
And, you know, third shift is,
you know, pays more some places.

1702
00:58:27.510 –> 00:58:32.269
Speaker:
And so I get on the police
department and I don’t know that

1703
00:58:32.269 –> 00:58:32.750
Speaker:
I’m doing it.

1704
00:58:32.750 –> 00:58:35.650
Speaker:
I, I didn’t even realize I was
still tuned in to that kind of

1705
00:58:35.650 –> 00:58:38.909
Speaker:
thing happening, but I could
always tell when someone’s going

1706
00:58:38.909 –> 00:58:40.030
Speaker:
to attack me.

1707
00:58:40.030 –> 00:58:40.349
Speaker:
Oh, wow.

1708
00:58:40.349 –> 00:58:41.989
Speaker:
That’s a good that’s a good
trait to have.

1709
00:58:41.989 –> 00:58:43.869
Speaker:
Then it’s a good trait to have.

1710
00:58:43.869 –> 00:58:44.989
Speaker:
You know, I might be standing

1711
00:58:44.989 –> 00:58:46.429
Speaker:
next to somebody or, you know,

1712
00:58:46.429 –> 00:58:47.670
Speaker:
standing with somebody next to a

1713
00:58:47.670 –> 00:58:48.630
Speaker:
car and I say, why don’t you

1714
00:58:48.630 –> 00:58:49.349
Speaker:
reach in there and get your

1715
00:58:49.349 –> 00:58:50.550
Speaker:
wallet out, let me see your I.D.

1716
00:58:50.550 –> 00:58:51.949
Speaker:
or whatever.

1717
00:58:51.949 –> 00:58:54.269
Speaker:
And they would reach in and I
would just like, you know, the

1718
00:58:54.269 –> 00:58:56.750
Speaker:
whole Spidey sense thing where
you could tell when things are.

1719
00:58:56.750 –> 00:58:59.750
Speaker:
And I would just take a shift
over to my left or to my right,

1720
00:58:59.750 –> 00:59:01.949
Speaker:
and I wouldn’t be where they
thought they left me.

1721
00:59:01.949 –> 00:59:05.510
Speaker:
And they would turn around and
be like, aha, you know, and so I

1722
00:59:05.510 –> 00:59:08.670
Speaker:
always had that, you know,
something bad’s about to happen.

1723
00:59:08.670 –> 00:59:13.590
Speaker:
I have found people in places
where other cops didn’t think a

1724
00:59:13.590 –> 00:59:14.150
Speaker:
guy could hide.

1725
00:59:14.150 –> 00:59:15.550
Speaker:
I’m like, no, he’s right in
this.

1726
00:59:15.550 –> 00:59:17.389
Speaker:
He’s right here.

1727
00:59:17.389 –> 00:59:19.590
Speaker:
And I would call out like,
seriously, dude, if you don’t

1728
00:59:19.590 –> 00:59:21.869
Speaker:
stand up and show yourself and I
have to come in there and get

1729
00:59:21.869 –> 00:59:24.670
Speaker:
you, you’re going to hate me and
then come right out.

1730
00:59:24.670 –> 00:59:25.389
Speaker:
Like, how’d you do that?

1731
00:59:25.389 –> 00:59:27.590
Speaker:
Like I knew he was in there.

1732
00:59:27.590 –> 00:59:29.030
Speaker:
Like I knew that guy was in
there.

1733
00:59:29.030 –> 00:59:29.429
Speaker:
Wow.

1734
00:59:29.429 –> 00:59:33.710
Speaker:
And so I do that and, you know,
cops do this thing.

1735
00:59:33.710 –> 00:59:36.750
Speaker:
Uh, it came off of an old Joseph
Wambaugh book.

1736
00:59:36.750 –> 00:59:37.809
Speaker:
It’s called Choir Practice,

1737
00:59:37.809 –> 00:59:38.869
Speaker:
where dudes just sit around and

1738
00:59:38.869 –> 00:59:40.349
Speaker:
kind of shoot, shoot the breeze

1739
00:59:40.349 –> 00:59:42.269
Speaker:
after a run or whatever, and

1740
00:59:42.269 –> 00:59:43.869
Speaker:
just kind of, hey, what was that

1741
00:59:43.869 –> 00:59:44.869
Speaker:
run you had over there on Third

1742
00:59:44.869 –> 00:59:45.389
Speaker:
Avenue?

1743
00:59:45.389 –> 00:59:47.389
Speaker:
Like, oh yeah, you know, this
guy was doing this or whatever.

1744
00:59:47.389 –> 00:59:48.489
Speaker:
So we’ll just kind of sit there,

1745
00:59:48.489 –> 00:59:49.550
Speaker:
we’ll take a run and we’ll go

1746
00:59:49.550 –> 00:59:50.710
Speaker:
back out to our cars and just

1747
00:59:50.710 –> 00:59:51.630
Speaker:
kind of stand there for a few

1748
00:59:51.630 –> 00:59:52.710
Speaker:
minutes and gab a little bit,

1749
00:59:52.710 –> 00:59:53.550
Speaker:
and then get in our cars and

1750
00:59:53.550 –> 00:59:55.030
Speaker:
drive away.

1751
00:59:55.030 –> 00:59:56.510
Speaker:
And so the whole time, my whole

1752
00:59:56.510 –> 00:59:58.989
Speaker:
career on third shift, I talked

1753
00:59:58.989 –> 01:00:00.570
Speaker:
to somebody and lo and behold,

1754
01:00:00.570 –> 01:00:01.590
Speaker:
you know, there’s a shadow that

1755
01:00:01.590 –> 01:00:02.869
Speaker:
moves from the garage to the

1756
01:00:02.869 –> 01:00:03.190
Speaker:
tree.

1757
01:00:03.190 –> 01:00:04.469
Speaker:
Hey, did you see that guy?

1758
01:00:04.469 –> 01:00:07.429
Speaker:
No. You didn’t see that guy move
behind that tree?

1759
01:00:07.429 –> 01:00:08.750
Speaker:
No. And I would look.

1760
01:00:08.750 –> 01:00:09.610
Speaker:
And there’s another shadow

1761
01:00:09.610 –> 01:00:11.190
Speaker:
moving from a car over to a

1762
01:00:11.190 –> 01:00:12.070
Speaker:
garage.

1763
01:00:12.070 –> 01:00:13.989
Speaker:
Like you didn’t just see that
guy over there.

1764
01:00:13.989 –> 01:00:15.909
Speaker:
So I just quit asking, okay?

1765
01:00:15.909 –> 01:00:18.380
Speaker:
It’s like, okay, fine, whatever.

1766
01:00:18.380 –> 01:00:20.420
Speaker:
So the whole time that I’m, I’m

1767
01:00:20.420 –> 01:00:22.099
Speaker:
working on the police

1768
01:00:22.099 –> 01:00:23.940
Speaker:
department, I’m also teaching

1769
01:00:23.940 –> 01:00:24.940
Speaker:
martial arts.

1770
01:00:24.940 –> 01:00:26.340
Speaker:
And the martial arts that I

1771
01:00:26.340 –> 01:00:27.900
Speaker:
teach is based on pressure

1772
01:00:27.900 –> 01:00:28.460
Speaker:
points.

1773
01:00:28.460 –> 01:00:32.539
Speaker:
It’s the George Dillman Karate
International.

1774
01:00:32.539 –> 01:00:37.860
Speaker:
And so the idea is that the kata
that they would develop in

1775
01:00:37.860 –> 01:00:42.719
Speaker:
China, Okinawa and Japan, the
movements in that kata aren’t

1776
01:00:42.719 –> 01:00:44.539
Speaker:
the movements that they tell you
that they are.

1777
01:00:44.539 –> 01:00:47.619
Speaker:
They actually map out like where
to attack the next pressure

1778
01:00:47.619 –> 01:00:50.699
Speaker:
point in line in order to
disable the attacker.

1779
01:00:50.699 –> 01:00:52.199
Speaker:
So he can’t fight anymore

1780
01:00:52.199 –> 01:00:53.179
Speaker:
normally because they’re

1781
01:00:53.179 –> 01:00:54.340
Speaker:
unconscious.

1782
01:00:54.340 –> 01:00:57.699
Speaker:
So we would practice after class

1783
01:00:57.699 –> 01:00:59.179
Speaker:
and we sent all the the lower

1784
01:00:59.179 –> 01:01:01.380
Speaker:
belts home, all of us black

1785
01:01:01.380 –> 01:01:02.699
Speaker:
belts and instructors, we’d all

1786
01:01:02.699 –> 01:01:03.780
Speaker:
sit around and kind of practice

1787
01:01:03.780 –> 01:01:04.940
Speaker:
on knockouts.

1788
01:01:04.940 –> 01:01:07.699
Speaker:
And so you’d, you’d like, you
know, put your arm out like

1789
01:01:07.699 –> 01:01:09.659
Speaker:
you’re punching somebody and
say, okay, I want to hit this

1790
01:01:09.659 –> 01:01:11.820
Speaker:
point, this point and this
point, and it should short

1791
01:01:11.820 –> 01:01:13.980
Speaker:
circuit you and you’ll pass out
and we would do it.

1792
01:01:13.980 –> 01:01:14.699
Speaker:
And hey, look at that.

1793
01:01:14.699 –> 01:01:15.900
Speaker:
Wake him back up.

1794
01:01:15.900 –> 01:01:18.579
Speaker:
And so we did that for years.

1795
01:01:18.579 –> 01:01:20.940
Speaker:
And I wanted to be able to do it
better.

1796
01:01:20.940 –> 01:01:23.420
Speaker:
So I ran into a guy who was
teaching Tai chi and he was able

1797
01:01:23.420 –> 01:01:25.539
Speaker:
to move energy and okay, fine.

1798
01:01:25.539 –> 01:01:28.019
Speaker:
So I trained with him for a year
and he says, have you ever heard

1799
01:01:28.019 –> 01:01:29.139
Speaker:
of this stuff called Reiki?

1800
01:01:29.139 –> 01:01:31.099
Speaker:
I said, nope, I haven’t heard of
it.

1801
01:01:31.099 –> 01:01:32.460
Speaker:
You know, I, I’ve heard of stuff

1802
01:01:32.460 –> 01:01:33.860
Speaker:
called violating Indiana state

1803
01:01:33.860 –> 01:01:34.860
Speaker:
law.

1804
01:01:34.860 –> 01:01:36.260
Speaker:
Right?

1805
01:01:36.260 –> 01:01:39.380
Speaker:
So he says, okay, well, why
don’t you come over to my house?

1806
01:01:39.380 –> 01:01:42.260
Speaker:
He says, I will do a Reiki
session on you because I was

1807
01:01:42.260 –> 01:01:44.300
Speaker:
telling him what I was feeling
while I was doing tai Chi.

1808
01:01:44.300 –> 01:01:46.780
Speaker:
He’s like, man, my hands are on
fire and I can feel this thing

1809
01:01:46.780 –> 01:01:48.300
Speaker:
going up my spine and all that.

1810
01:01:48.300 –> 01:01:49.500
Speaker:
He goes, why don’t you come out
to the house?

1811
01:01:49.500 –> 01:01:50.340
Speaker:
I’ll do Reiki on you.

1812
01:01:50.340 –> 01:01:52.139
Speaker:
I think you’d be good at it.

1813
01:01:52.139 –> 01:01:54.219
Speaker:
So he does Reiki on me.

1814
01:01:54.219 –> 01:01:57.619
Speaker:
And I went, Holy moly, that is
incredible.

1815
01:01:57.619 –> 01:02:00.019
Speaker:
I’ve never felt anything like
that.

1816
01:02:00.019 –> 01:02:02.980
Speaker:
So he taught me how to do it.

1817
01:02:02.980 –> 01:02:05.420
Speaker:
And so in March of two thousand

1818
01:02:05.420 –> 01:02:06.860
Speaker:
and nine, I finished training

1819
01:02:06.860 –> 01:02:09.099
Speaker:
with him on Reiki, and I went

1820
01:02:09.099 –> 01:02:10.059
Speaker:
into business right then and

1821
01:02:10.059 –> 01:02:10.179
Speaker:
there.

1822
01:02:10.179 –> 01:02:11.219
Speaker:
Everybody I could talk to was

1823
01:02:11.219 –> 01:02:12.260
Speaker:
like, you got to try this thing

1824
01:02:12.260 –> 01:02:12.820
Speaker:
out.

1825
01:02:12.820 –> 01:02:16.050
Speaker:
And so I started doing Reiki on
everybody I could find.

1826
01:02:16.050 –> 01:02:17.849
Speaker:
And I was renting spaces from

1827
01:02:17.849 –> 01:02:20.250
Speaker:
yoga studios and bookstores and,

1828
01:02:20.250 –> 01:02:21.969
Speaker:
and chiropractic offices and all

1829
01:02:21.969 –> 01:02:22.090
Speaker:
that.

1830
01:02:22.090 –> 01:02:23.769
Speaker:
And I’ve been doing this since
two thousand and nine.

1831
01:02:23.769 –> 01:02:25.090
Speaker:
And now I’ve got this, this

1832
01:02:25.090 –> 01:02:26.409
Speaker:
thing that I do tri state

1833
01:02:26.409 –> 01:02:27.530
Speaker:
holistic wellness where I do

1834
01:02:27.530 –> 01:02:27.889
Speaker:
everything.

1835
01:02:27.889 –> 01:02:31.090
Speaker:
And right now I’m going to
college for therapeutic massage.

1836
01:02:31.090 –> 01:02:35.210
Speaker:
So in the process of that, Reiki

1837
01:02:35.210 –> 01:02:36.690
Speaker:
is the transmission of energy

1838
01:02:36.690 –> 01:02:38.510
Speaker:
from the universe in order to

1839
01:02:38.510 –> 01:02:40.050
Speaker:
help kind of get you lined back

1840
01:02:40.050 –> 01:02:41.170
Speaker:
out again.

1841
01:02:41.170 –> 01:02:42.170
Speaker:
Okay.

1842
01:02:42.170 –> 01:02:45.090
Speaker:
It’s, it’s kind of like, okay,
yeah, my car is dirty.

1843
01:02:45.090 –> 01:02:47.730
Speaker:
I’m going to wash it down with
water to get the dirt off of it.

1844
01:02:47.730 –> 01:02:49.409
Speaker:
And now look, it’s shiny.

1845
01:02:49.409 –> 01:02:51.809
Speaker:
Well, it’s kind of like that on
the inside.

1846
01:02:51.809 –> 01:02:55.090
Speaker:
I’m bringing, I’m bringing in
energy from the universe.

1847
01:02:55.090 –> 01:02:56.969
Speaker:
I’m going to wash you out on the
inside.

1848
01:02:56.969 –> 01:02:59.329
Speaker:
I’m going to get the energy
moving in the channels in the

1849
01:02:59.329 –> 01:03:00.929
Speaker:
direction that it needs to go.

1850
01:03:00.929 –> 01:03:02.369
Speaker:
And that way you’re all clean on

1851
01:03:02.369 –> 01:03:03.530
Speaker:
the inside and you can operate

1852
01:03:03.530 –> 01:03:05.570
Speaker:
again, right?

1853
01:03:05.570 –> 01:03:07.329
Speaker:
So in the process of tapping

1854
01:03:07.329 –> 01:03:08.530
Speaker:
into that energy, I started

1855
01:03:08.530 –> 01:03:09.530
Speaker:
seeing all kinds of things

1856
01:03:09.530 –> 01:03:10.650
Speaker:
happening.

1857
01:03:10.650 –> 01:03:12.170
Speaker:
And I would, I would tell some

1858
01:03:12.170 –> 01:03:13.610
Speaker:
of the people that I would, you

1859
01:03:13.610 –> 01:03:14.849
Speaker:
know, work with and some other

1860
01:03:14.849 –> 01:03:15.130
Speaker:
things.

1861
01:03:15.130 –> 01:03:18.409
Speaker:
And I, I had a friend of mine
who was a psychic medium.

1862
01:03:18.409 –> 01:03:22.369
Speaker:
He says, uh, you know, I would
tell him, yes.

1863
01:03:22.369 –> 01:03:25.369
Speaker:
Looking on somebody and her dead
dad came in the room and we were

1864
01:03:25.369 –> 01:03:26.849
Speaker:
able to make peace about that.

1865
01:03:26.849 –> 01:03:27.809
Speaker:
And he goes, okay, well, you

1866
01:03:27.809 –> 01:03:28.809
Speaker:
need to sit down with me and I

1867
01:03:28.809 –> 01:03:29.690
Speaker:
need to teach you how to do

1868
01:03:29.690 –> 01:03:30.489
Speaker:
this.

1869
01:03:30.489 –> 01:03:33.449
Speaker:
And so he was teaching me how to
get into that.

1870
01:03:33.449 –> 01:03:34.730
Speaker:
And we would go out to lunch and

1871
01:03:34.730 –> 01:03:35.730
Speaker:
we would go out to dinner and

1872
01:03:35.730 –> 01:03:37.010
Speaker:
he’d say, okay, look around the

1873
01:03:37.010 –> 01:03:37.170
Speaker:
room.

1874
01:03:37.170 –> 01:03:38.489
Speaker:
How many people are in the room?

1875
01:03:38.489 –> 01:03:39.969
Speaker:
Like, um, there’s like ten

1876
01:03:39.969 –> 01:03:40.969
Speaker:
people in the room plus two

1877
01:03:40.969 –> 01:03:41.570
Speaker:
waitresses.

1878
01:03:41.570 –> 01:03:43.409
Speaker:
And he goes, no, no, no. Now

1879
01:03:43.409 –> 01:03:44.969
Speaker:
blink your eyes and tell me how

1880
01:03:44.969 –> 01:03:46.210
Speaker:
many people are really in the

1881
01:03:46.210 –> 01:03:47.090
Speaker:
room.

1882
01:03:47.090 –> 01:03:48.650
Speaker:
And I was like, oh, wow.

1883
01:03:48.650 –> 01:03:51.690
Speaker:
Yeah, there’s like eight dead
people in here.

1884
01:03:51.690 –> 01:03:53.409
Speaker:
And he’s like, yeah, okay,
that’s what you do.

1885
01:03:53.409 –> 01:03:56.329
Speaker:
And so we would go on house
clearings and we would go into

1886
01:03:56.329 –> 01:03:59.369
Speaker:
people’s homes and say, okay,
let’s, let’s go cross these

1887
01:03:59.369 –> 01:04:02.289
Speaker:
people over and let’s, uh,
smudge the place and let’s get

1888
01:04:02.289 –> 01:04:03.170
Speaker:
all this going on.

1889
01:04:03.170 –> 01:04:06.210
Speaker:
And so that’s how I got learning
how to do that.

1890
01:04:06.210 –> 01:04:07.889
Speaker:
And now I do that on my own.

1891
01:04:07.889 –> 01:04:12.639
Speaker:
And, and I, I go into people’s
homes and I just try to

1892
01:04:12.639 –> 01:04:13.920
Speaker:
establish the peace there.

1893
01:04:13.920 –> 01:04:14.440
Speaker:
That’s awesome.

1894
01:04:14.440 –> 01:04:15.480
Speaker:
Now, you mentioned smudge

1895
01:04:15.480 –> 01:04:16.719
Speaker:
earlier to what I was meant to

1896
01:04:16.719 –> 01:04:17.039
Speaker:
ask you.

1897
01:04:17.039 –> 01:04:20.039
Speaker:
What what do you mean when you
say you smudge the home?

1898
01:04:20.039 –> 01:04:24.000
Speaker:
Smudging is an ancient, uh,
practice.

1899
01:04:24.000 –> 01:04:25.519
Speaker:
This is like thousands and

1900
01:04:25.519 –> 01:04:28.079
Speaker:
thousands of years old, uh, like

1901
01:04:28.079 –> 01:04:30.380
Speaker:
ten to thirty thousand years,

1902
01:04:30.380 –> 01:04:31.639
Speaker:
uh, old.

1903
01:04:31.639 –> 01:04:34.239
Speaker:
And what you do is you’re
burning specific elements

1904
01:04:34.239 –> 01:04:38.719
Speaker:
because the smoke, uh, helps to
clear a space.

1905
01:04:38.719 –> 01:04:40.920
Speaker:
And so, uh, smoke in and of

1906
01:04:40.920 –> 01:04:43.000
Speaker:
itself whenever you’re doing

1907
01:04:43.000 –> 01:04:44.840
Speaker:
things like burning incense or

1908
01:04:44.840 –> 01:04:46.659
Speaker:
you’re burning sage or whatever,

1909
01:04:46.659 –> 01:04:49.480
Speaker:
smoke is a molecule that carries

1910
01:04:49.480 –> 01:04:50.679
Speaker:
light.

1911
01:04:50.679 –> 01:04:53.159
Speaker:
And so what happens is, um, you

1912
01:04:53.159 –> 01:04:55.320
Speaker:
ever like had an old muffler and

1913
01:04:55.320 –> 01:04:56.280
Speaker:
you knock on it and you could

1914
01:04:56.280 –> 01:04:57.559
Speaker:
hear the rust inside falling

1915
01:04:57.559 –> 01:04:57.760
Speaker:
down.

1916
01:04:57.760 –> 01:04:58.119
Speaker:
Oh, yeah.

1917
01:04:58.119 –> 01:04:58.840
Speaker:
Mhm.

1918
01:04:58.840 –> 01:05:00.159
Speaker:
Okay.

1919
01:05:00.159 –> 01:05:03.639
Speaker:
So picture a light bulb.

1920
01:05:03.639 –> 01:05:05.800
Speaker:
A light bulb works because

1921
01:05:05.800 –> 01:05:08.079
Speaker:
you’re taking twelve lanes of LA

1922
01:05:08.079 –> 01:05:09.920
Speaker:
freeway traffic and trying to

1923
01:05:09.920 –> 01:05:11.599
Speaker:
convert that down to a dirt goat

1924
01:05:11.599 –> 01:05:12.280
Speaker:
path.

1925
01:05:13.480 –> 01:05:14.440
Speaker:
So what you’re doing is you’re

1926
01:05:14.440 –> 01:05:16.039
Speaker:
taking a lot of electrons that

1927
01:05:16.039 –> 01:05:17.519
Speaker:
have been flying across these

1928
01:05:17.519 –> 01:05:19.920
Speaker:
lamp cords and across the, the

1929
01:05:19.920 –> 01:05:21.480
Speaker:
romex, in your, in the walls of

1930
01:05:21.480 –> 01:05:22.519
Speaker:
your house.

1931
01:05:22.519 –> 01:05:25.880
Speaker:
And you’re trying to jam all
that down.

1932
01:05:25.880 –> 01:05:28.380
Speaker:
So only one molecule at a time
will fit through that little

1933
01:05:28.380 –> 01:05:30.079
Speaker:
bitty tiny element.

1934
01:05:30.079 –> 01:05:35.239
Speaker:
Those, those collisions,
whatever you collide, those

1935
01:05:35.239 –> 01:05:38.440
Speaker:
electrons like that, what they
do is they put off light and

1936
01:05:38.440 –> 01:05:41.079
Speaker:
heat, which is why the bulbs
burn out, because the filament

1937
01:05:41.079 –> 01:05:43.880
Speaker:
can’t take heat for that long.

1938
01:05:43.880 –> 01:05:45.800
Speaker:
So what you’re doing is you’re

1939
01:05:45.800 –> 01:05:47.559
Speaker:
jamming all that energy into a

1940
01:05:47.559 –> 01:05:48.599
Speaker:
small space.

1941
01:05:48.599 –> 01:05:50.039
Speaker:
It puts off light and heat.

1942
01:05:50.039 –> 01:05:54.519
Speaker:
Now, if the light that was
putting off by that filament did

1943
01:05:54.519 –> 01:06:01.019
Speaker:
not go past the glass, it would
be called a dark bulb because

1944
01:06:01.019 –> 01:06:03.880
Speaker:
yeah, it’s putting off light,
but I can’t see it out here.

1945
01:06:05.159 –> 01:06:07.309
Speaker:
Your body is the same way.

1946
01:06:07.309 –> 01:06:11.429
Speaker:
You’ve got like seventy five
trillion cells in your body.

1947
01:06:11.429 –> 01:06:13.750
Speaker:
Each one of those is like a
small city.

1948
01:06:13.750 –> 01:06:15.909
Speaker:
There’s a mayor’s office,
there’s a sewage department.

1949
01:06:15.909 –> 01:06:18.829
Speaker:
There’s a production, uh,
factory.

1950
01:06:18.829 –> 01:06:20.050
Speaker:
There’s actually like fifteen

1951
01:06:20.050 –> 01:06:21.349
Speaker:
hundred production factories in

1952
01:06:21.349 –> 01:06:22.469
Speaker:
every cell.

1953
01:06:22.469 –> 01:06:25.269
Speaker:
And there’s proteins being made.

1954
01:06:25.269 –> 01:06:28.710
Speaker:
There’s a sensory things being,
you know, done by the membranes.

1955
01:06:28.710 –> 01:06:31.989
Speaker:
You got seventy five to one
hundred trillion cells that are

1956
01:06:31.989 –> 01:06:35.949
Speaker:
all acting like these individual
little cities that are all

1957
01:06:35.949 –> 01:06:38.510
Speaker:
connected together to make
organs and tissues.

1958
01:06:38.510 –> 01:06:44.110
Speaker:
Now the energy they put off is
not contained within the skin.

1959
01:06:44.110 –> 01:06:45.429
Speaker:
It goes out past that.

1960
01:06:45.429 –> 01:06:46.429
Speaker:
That’s our aura.

1961
01:06:46.429 –> 01:06:50.030
Speaker:
That’s the energy that we
produce out away from us, which

1962
01:06:50.030 –> 01:06:53.570
Speaker:
is why, you know, in America, we
have this thing about, you know,

1963
01:06:53.570 –> 01:06:54.750
Speaker:
don’t stand that close to me.

1964
01:06:54.750 –> 01:06:56.630
Speaker:
It’s uncomfortable.

1965
01:06:56.630 –> 01:06:58.829
Speaker:
You know, we have this personal
space thing in America.

1966
01:06:58.829 –> 01:07:02.829
Speaker:
In some countries, that personal
space is much, much closer.

1967
01:07:02.829 –> 01:07:06.219
Speaker:
And Americans got to get, you
know, we get kind of unnerved if

1968
01:07:06.219 –> 01:07:10.920
Speaker:
someone from the Middle East or
Europe or or Eurasia wants to

1969
01:07:10.920 –> 01:07:13.619
Speaker:
stand right next to us to talk
to us, it’s like, dude, you got

1970
01:07:13.619 –> 01:07:14.139
Speaker:
to back off.

1971
01:07:14.139 –> 01:07:15.860
Speaker:
You know, those are fighting
distances right there.

1972
01:07:15.860 –> 01:07:17.659
Speaker:
You know, you keep stepping into
me like this.

1973
01:07:17.659 –> 01:07:19.099
Speaker:
I’m going to swing.

1974
01:07:19.099 –> 01:07:20.820
Speaker:
Because in America, like, you

1975
01:07:20.820 –> 01:07:22.179
Speaker:
know, you don’t stand that close

1976
01:07:22.179 –> 01:07:22.460
Speaker:
to me.

1977
01:07:22.460 –> 01:07:26.659
Speaker:
You stand out here and you can
watch a crowd of people.

1978
01:07:26.659 –> 01:07:28.940
Speaker:
And if there’s two people
standing next to each other, one

1979
01:07:28.940 –> 01:07:30.099
Speaker:
of them will shift.

1980
01:07:31.659 –> 01:07:34.059
Speaker:
So it’s because of the energy we
put off.

1981
01:07:34.059 –> 01:07:36.940
Speaker:
There’s a there’s a comfort zone
of that.

1982
01:07:36.940 –> 01:07:41.179
Speaker:
And so what happens is your
emotions.

1983
01:07:41.179 –> 01:07:44.139
Speaker:
Now remember I said earlier,
emotions are real.

1984
01:07:44.139 –> 01:07:45.219
Speaker:
Thoughts are real.

1985
01:07:45.219 –> 01:07:48.539
Speaker:
They are a quantum value.

1986
01:07:48.539 –> 01:07:52.860
Speaker:
I actually read in a book that
scientists have now determined

1987
01:07:52.860 –> 01:07:55.260
Speaker:
that emotions have mass.

1988
01:07:55.260 –> 01:07:58.460
Speaker:
They actually affect the world
around us.

1989
01:07:58.460 –> 01:08:01.139
Speaker:
So, you know, if you if you
listen to books like The Secret

1990
01:08:01.139 –> 01:08:03.500
Speaker:
or you watch the movie The
Secret, or you know anything

1991
01:08:03.500 –> 01:08:07.480
Speaker:
about the Law of Attraction, or
if you’ve read The Kybalion,

1992
01:08:07.480 –> 01:08:10.340
Speaker:
your thoughts become things.

1993
01:08:10.340 –> 01:08:13.059
Speaker:
If you think the world is crap,
the world is going to give you

1994
01:08:13.059 –> 01:08:15.019
Speaker:
more crap to think about.

1995
01:08:15.019 –> 01:08:16.520
Speaker:
If you think the world is an

1996
01:08:16.520 –> 01:08:18.859
Speaker:
abundant opportunity, then what

1997
01:08:18.859 –> 01:08:19.819
Speaker:
you’re going to see around you

1998
01:08:19.819 –> 01:08:20.779
Speaker:
is opportunities.

1999
01:08:20.779 –> 01:08:22.340
Speaker:
Everything you put out comes
back.

2000
01:08:22.340 –> 01:08:24.020
Speaker:
And we see that with a lot of
people we know.

2001
01:08:24.020 –> 01:08:25.699
Speaker:
You know, it’s always the guy
that complains.

2002
01:08:25.699 –> 01:08:26.819
Speaker:
Everything happens to me.

2003
01:08:26.819 –> 01:08:28.760
Speaker:
The Eeyore of the of the bunch,

2004
01:08:28.760 –> 01:08:30.460
Speaker:
absolutely crap does happen to

2005
01:08:30.460 –> 01:08:30.819
Speaker:
this guy.

2006
01:08:30.819 –> 01:08:32.500
Speaker:
And, you know, bad stuff does
happen to everybody.

2007
01:08:32.500 –> 01:08:33.420
Speaker:
But it’s like some people, it’s

2008
01:08:33.420 –> 01:08:34.380
Speaker:
like, what the hell’s going on

2009
01:08:34.380 –> 01:08:34.739
Speaker:
over here?

2010
01:08:34.739 –> 01:08:36.699
Speaker:
But it’s that law of attraction

2011
01:08:36.699 –> 01:08:38.319
Speaker:
where it’s like, you know,

2012
01:08:38.319 –> 01:08:39.420
Speaker:
there’s a reason that’s

2013
01:08:39.420 –> 01:08:39.739
Speaker:
happening.

2014
01:08:39.739 –> 01:08:43.020
Speaker:
I think sometimes, yes, in this
world you’ve got the eeyores and

2015
01:08:43.020 –> 01:08:46.020
Speaker:
you’ve got the Elon Musk where
everything is an opportunity.

2016
01:08:46.020 –> 01:08:46.699
Speaker:
You’re okay.

2017
01:08:46.699 –> 01:08:48.300
Speaker:
And it’s not because he’s
brilliant.

2018
01:08:48.300 –> 01:08:50.220
Speaker:
I mean, he is, but it’s because

2019
01:08:50.220 –> 01:08:51.699
Speaker:
he uses his brilliance and he

2020
01:08:51.699 –> 01:08:53.140
Speaker:
doesn’t go well, gee, the

2021
01:08:53.140 –> 01:08:54.260
Speaker:
world’s a great big pile of

2022
01:08:54.260 –> 01:08:54.859
Speaker:
crap.

2023
01:08:54.859 –> 01:08:56.460
Speaker:
He looks at it like, okay, well,

2024
01:08:56.460 –> 01:08:57.659
Speaker:
this needs to be done in the

2025
01:08:57.659 –> 01:08:57.939
Speaker:
world.

2026
01:08:57.939 –> 01:08:59.380
Speaker:
How do we get that finished?

2027
01:08:59.380 –> 01:09:00.300
Speaker:
MM. Absolutely.

2028
01:09:00.300 –> 01:09:00.979
Speaker:
Yeah.

2029
01:09:00.979 –> 01:09:04.210
Speaker:
And so, you know, if he were an
E or he could not do those

2030
01:09:04.210 –> 01:09:07.649
Speaker:
things right now, he may be
weird and eccentric and most

2031
01:09:07.649 –> 01:09:11.149
Speaker:
people like that are, you know,
there’s a very, very fine, uh,

2032
01:09:11.149 –> 01:09:13.930
Speaker:
thin of a razor’s edge between
insanity and genius.

2033
01:09:13.930 –> 01:09:15.329
Speaker:
And we all know this.

2034
01:09:15.329 –> 01:09:18.090
Speaker:
Okay, so we put off energy

2035
01:09:18.090 –> 01:09:19.649
Speaker:
everywhere we go, which is why

2036
01:09:19.649 –> 01:09:20.970
Speaker:
empaths can pick up on other

2037
01:09:20.970 –> 01:09:22.449
Speaker:
people’s emotional states

2038
01:09:22.449 –> 01:09:23.609
Speaker:
immediately because of the

2039
01:09:23.609 –> 01:09:24.649
Speaker:
energy they’re feeling from

2040
01:09:24.649 –> 01:09:25.649
Speaker:
other people.

2041
01:09:25.649 –> 01:09:27.409
Speaker:
The difference is that a lot of

2042
01:09:27.409 –> 01:09:29.930
Speaker:
empaths will take on those

2043
01:09:29.930 –> 01:09:31.289
Speaker:
feelings, and if they’re in a

2044
01:09:31.289 –> 01:09:32.569
Speaker:
room full of people, they start

2045
01:09:32.569 –> 01:09:34.050
Speaker:
losing track of where their

2046
01:09:34.050 –> 01:09:35.569
Speaker:
feelings end and someone else’s

2047
01:09:35.569 –> 01:09:37.050
Speaker:
feelings begin.

2048
01:09:37.050 –> 01:09:39.170
Speaker:
Which is why you’ll see a lot of
people say, I don’t like crowds.

2049
01:09:39.170 –> 01:09:40.050
Speaker:
I don’t want to be in a room.

2050
01:09:40.050 –> 01:09:40.890
Speaker:
I don’t like to go to parties.

2051
01:09:40.890 –> 01:09:43.369
Speaker:
I don’t like to be in all that
stuff and blah, blah, blah.

2052
01:09:43.369 –> 01:09:46.090
Speaker:
And it’s like, no, because in
about twenty minutes, I don’t

2053
01:09:46.090 –> 01:09:48.609
Speaker:
know who I am anymore because
I’m everybody else.

2054
01:09:49.609 –> 01:09:56.529
Speaker:
Okay, so now if you take that
concept and say, okay, every day

2055
01:09:56.529 –> 01:09:59.689
Speaker:
that you come home from work,
you spend the first hour stitch

2056
01:09:59.689 –> 01:10:02.529
Speaker:
into your wife about your day at
work and your boss and this

2057
01:10:02.529 –> 01:10:05.250
Speaker:
project you had to do, and how
this coworker backstabbed you.

2058
01:10:05.250 –> 01:10:06.609
Speaker:
And the client’s an idiot and

2059
01:10:06.609 –> 01:10:07.729
Speaker:
doesn’t even understand what you

2060
01:10:07.729 –> 01:10:09.010
Speaker:
produce here and blah, blah,

2061
01:10:09.010 –> 01:10:09.369
Speaker:
blah.

2062
01:10:09.369 –> 01:10:11.569
Speaker:
And that’s what you do is you
come home and then she says,

2063
01:10:11.569 –> 01:10:12.529
Speaker:
yeah, that might be fine.

2064
01:10:12.529 –> 01:10:13.529
Speaker:
You’ve had a bad day.

2065
01:10:13.529 –> 01:10:16.010
Speaker:
But I’ve had this with the kids
and the car broke down and I had

2066
01:10:16.010 –> 01:10:17.890
Speaker:
to have this and we had to tow
the car here and blah, blah,

2067
01:10:17.890 –> 01:10:18.529
Speaker:
blah, blah, blah.

2068
01:10:18.529 –> 01:10:21.010
Speaker:
And by the way, we got this bill
coming up and your mother called

2069
01:10:21.010 –> 01:10:23.210
Speaker:
and she wants this and blah,
blah, blah, blah, blah.

2070
01:10:23.210 –> 01:10:26.810
Speaker:
And so now it turns into this
huge argument, right?

2071
01:10:26.810 –> 01:10:29.850
Speaker:
That energy gets put out between

2072
01:10:29.850 –> 01:10:32.369
Speaker:
the two of you and it goes and

2073
01:10:32.369 –> 01:10:34.529
Speaker:
it collects into the material

2074
01:10:34.529 –> 01:10:35.649
Speaker:
structure of the wall of the

2075
01:10:35.649 –> 01:10:37.210
Speaker:
house.

2076
01:10:37.210 –> 01:10:39.609
Speaker:
Remember, the walls of your
house are nothing more than

2077
01:10:39.609 –> 01:10:42.090
Speaker:
electrons jiggling around.

2078
01:10:42.090 –> 01:10:47.369
Speaker:
The emotions you put off of you
are electrons jiggling around.

2079
01:10:47.369 –> 01:10:50.649
Speaker:
They just match up and they meet
in places.

2080
01:10:50.649 –> 01:10:53.810
Speaker:
Store things.

2081
01:10:53.810 –> 01:10:56.449
Speaker:
Now let me prove it to you

2082
01:10:56.449 –> 01:10:58.119
Speaker:
because, I mean, it sounds kind

2083
01:10:58.119 –> 01:10:59.800
Speaker:
of goofy, but let me put let me

2084
01:10:59.800 –> 01:11:00.560
Speaker:
prove it.

2085
01:11:01.920 –> 01:11:05.520
Speaker:
Tell me if you don’t immediately
notice the difference between

2086
01:11:05.520 –> 01:11:09.960
Speaker:
walking into a hospital, walking
into a funeral home, and walking

2087
01:11:09.960 –> 01:11:11.920
Speaker:
into a cathedral.

2088
01:11:11.920 –> 01:11:14.920
Speaker:
You definitely do notice there’s
the the air changes.

2089
01:11:14.920 –> 01:11:16.680
Speaker:
Just everything about the whole
mood.

2090
01:11:16.680 –> 01:11:19.359
Speaker:
Your emotional state kind of
changes too.

2091
01:11:19.359 –> 01:11:21.079
Speaker:
Um, yes.

2092
01:11:21.079 –> 01:11:22.539
Speaker:
And now I have not been to

2093
01:11:22.539 –> 01:11:24.960
Speaker:
Europe, but what I have heard

2094
01:11:24.960 –> 01:11:27.680
Speaker:
from people who have is these

2095
01:11:27.680 –> 01:11:29.500
Speaker:
cathedrals in Europe you go to,

2096
01:11:29.500 –> 01:11:30.239
Speaker:
you know, Saint Peter’s

2097
01:11:30.239 –> 01:11:33.359
Speaker:
Basilica, that is a humongous

2098
01:11:33.359 –> 01:11:34.399
Speaker:
edifice.

2099
01:11:34.399 –> 01:11:37.920
Speaker:
And it has it’s like fifteen
hundred years old.

2100
01:11:37.920 –> 01:11:40.479
Speaker:
I mean, it’s, you know, it’s a
thousand years old.

2101
01:11:40.479 –> 01:11:41.880
Speaker:
And people walk into there.

2102
01:11:41.880 –> 01:11:44.159
Speaker:
What state of mind are they when
they walk in there?

2103
01:11:44.159 –> 01:11:45.840
Speaker:
They’re just in awe.

2104
01:11:45.840 –> 01:11:46.640
Speaker:
They’re in awe.

2105
01:11:46.640 –> 01:11:48.960
Speaker:
And they are, well, they’re
they’re coming in there to get

2106
01:11:48.960 –> 01:11:53.119
Speaker:
close to God, you know, whatever
that you whatever you think that

2107
01:11:53.119 –> 01:11:56.720
Speaker:
that is, whatever version of
God, you know, appeals to you.

2108
01:11:56.720 –> 01:11:58.239
Speaker:
Whatever that is for you.

2109
01:11:58.239 –> 01:12:00.359
Speaker:
They go in there to get close to
that.

2110
01:12:00.359 –> 01:12:02.640
Speaker:
So they’re in a reference state
of mind.

2111
01:12:02.640 –> 01:12:04.800
Speaker:
They’re in a pious state of
mind.

2112
01:12:04.800 –> 01:12:07.760
Speaker:
They’re in a forgiveness state
of mind.

2113
01:12:07.760 –> 01:12:11.920
Speaker:
They’re in a, uh, I want to just
achieve peace state of mind.

2114
01:12:11.920 –> 01:12:12.840
Speaker:
Right.

2115
01:12:12.840 –> 01:12:14.520
Speaker:
And so when you walk into those

2116
01:12:14.520 –> 01:12:16.079
Speaker:
enormous cathedrals all across

2117
01:12:16.079 –> 01:12:17.960
Speaker:
Europe, you walk in there and

2118
01:12:17.960 –> 01:12:19.439
Speaker:
that energy is in the room and

2119
01:12:19.439 –> 01:12:21.079
Speaker:
it’s been there for a thousand

2120
01:12:21.079 –> 01:12:21.640
Speaker:
years.

2121
01:12:21.640 –> 01:12:25.600
Speaker:
You can’t walk into those
buildings and be pissed.

2122
01:12:25.600 –> 01:12:28.239
Speaker:
Now walk into a funeral home.

2123
01:12:28.239 –> 01:12:30.000
Speaker:
What happens in funeral homes?

2124
01:12:30.000 –> 01:12:32.680
Speaker:
A you’ve got people sad that
someone passed.

2125
01:12:32.680 –> 01:12:33.840
Speaker:
Mhm.

2126
01:12:33.840 –> 01:12:36.000
Speaker:
And now you’ve got you’re
dealing with friends and

2127
01:12:36.000 –> 01:12:39.199
Speaker:
relatives that you might not
have seen for a while.

2128
01:12:39.199 –> 01:12:40.560
Speaker:
You might also be dealing with

2129
01:12:40.560 –> 01:12:42.220
Speaker:
siblings that are fighting over

2130
01:12:42.220 –> 01:12:43.680
Speaker:
what’s left.

2131
01:12:43.680 –> 01:12:45.420
Speaker:
Uh, and you’ve got, you know,

2132
01:12:45.420 –> 01:12:46.640
Speaker:
brothers that haven’t spoken for

2133
01:12:46.640 –> 01:12:47.840
Speaker:
twenty years that don’t like

2134
01:12:47.840 –> 01:12:48.920
Speaker:
each other, but, you know, mom

2135
01:12:48.920 –> 01:12:49.159
Speaker:
died.

2136
01:12:49.159 –> 01:12:50.039
Speaker:
We got to be here.

2137
01:12:50.039 –> 01:12:52.159
Speaker:
Hey, can you at least put up
with me for an hour?

2138
01:12:52.159 –> 01:12:52.840
Speaker:
Exactly.

2139
01:12:52.840 –> 01:12:53.239
Speaker:
Mhm.

2140
01:12:53.239 –> 01:12:55.510
Speaker:
Okay, so you’ve got that energy
in the room.

2141
01:12:55.510 –> 01:12:57.310
Speaker:
It’s not you.

2142
01:12:57.310 –> 01:13:00.470
Speaker:
Funeral homes don’t feel that
way because of the dead people.

2143
01:13:00.470 –> 01:13:02.989
Speaker:
They feel that way because of
the live people.

2144
01:13:04.390 –> 01:13:05.869
Speaker:
Think about what’s happening in
a hospital.

2145
01:13:05.869 –> 01:13:08.750
Speaker:
You’ve got sick people that
don’t want to be there.

2146
01:13:08.750 –> 01:13:12.069
Speaker:
You’ve got visitors that don’t
want to be there.

2147
01:13:12.069 –> 01:13:14.869
Speaker:
You’ve got overworked,
understaffed nurses that are

2148
01:13:14.869 –> 01:13:16.069
Speaker:
dealing with both.

2149
01:13:17.550 –> 01:13:19.149
Speaker:
You’ve got all that energy in
the hospital.

2150
01:13:19.149 –> 01:13:20.630
Speaker:
Everybody says, well, how are
you going to hospitals?

2151
01:13:20.630 –> 01:13:22.710
Speaker:
Well, I ain’t going to hospitals
too, because I know what energy

2152
01:13:22.710 –> 01:13:25.029
Speaker:
is going to be in there and
waiting for me.

2153
01:13:25.029 –> 01:13:28.189
Speaker:
So now now we get to go back to
smudging.

2154
01:13:28.189 –> 01:13:31.869
Speaker:
We know that buildings store
that energy, and we know that

2155
01:13:31.869 –> 01:13:34.390
Speaker:
when people come home to the
sanctity of their home.

2156
01:13:34.390 –> 01:13:36.909
Speaker:
They’re as real as they’re going
to be.

2157
01:13:36.909 –> 01:13:38.229
Speaker:
And the energy that’s coming off

2158
01:13:38.229 –> 01:13:39.310
Speaker:
of them is going to be where it

2159
01:13:39.310 –> 01:13:39.789
Speaker:
is.

2160
01:13:39.789 –> 01:13:43.590
Speaker:
And if you drink or you do
drugs, that energy coming out is

2161
01:13:43.590 –> 01:13:44.949
Speaker:
going to stay in that home.

2162
01:13:45.989 –> 01:13:49.390
Speaker:
Smudging is like tapping on the

2163
01:13:49.390 –> 01:13:50.829
Speaker:
muffler and letting the rust

2164
01:13:50.829 –> 01:13:52.510
Speaker:
fall.

2165
01:13:52.510 –> 01:13:54.310
Speaker:
The smoke goes up.

2166
01:13:54.310 –> 01:13:58.710
Speaker:
And what I do is I go around the
walls of the house and I let the

2167
01:13:58.710 –> 01:14:00.229
Speaker:
smoke waft up.

2168
01:14:00.229 –> 01:14:04.270
Speaker:
And what it does is it breaks
loose all that emotional energy

2169
01:14:04.270 –> 01:14:07.310
Speaker:
and lets it fall to the ground
and be destroyed.

2170
01:14:08.470 –> 01:14:11.590
Speaker:
It’s like washing the car.

2171
01:14:11.590 –> 01:14:13.430
Speaker:
Now everything’s shiny.

2172
01:14:13.430 –> 01:14:16.310
Speaker:
Now from this point forward,
what you bring into the house,

2173
01:14:16.310 –> 01:14:18.390
Speaker:
that’s up to you.

2174
01:14:18.390 –> 01:14:20.550
Speaker:
You want to come home and shoot
up or.

2175
01:14:20.550 –> 01:14:23.189
Speaker:
Or you want to drink and fight
and punch your wife in the head.

2176
01:14:23.189 –> 01:14:24.670
Speaker:
That energy is on you.

2177
01:14:24.670 –> 01:14:25.829
Speaker:
But I’ve cleaned the place.

2178
01:14:25.829 –> 01:14:26.029
Speaker:
Now.

2179
01:14:26.029 –> 01:14:29.510
Speaker:
We’ve tapped on the muffler and
the rust has fallen down.

2180
01:14:29.510 –> 01:14:31.390
Speaker:
And now we’re in a good place
here.

2181
01:14:32.470 –> 01:14:35.949
Speaker:
Now the smoke is only half the
job.

2182
01:14:35.949 –> 01:14:39.829
Speaker:
My emotional intention is the
other half of the job.

2183
01:14:39.829 –> 01:14:43.109
Speaker:
And the intention is I want to
break up all this energy and I

2184
01:14:43.109 –> 01:14:44.109
Speaker:
want it to dissipate.

2185
01:14:44.109 –> 01:14:45.430
Speaker:
I want it to be destroyed.

2186
01:14:45.430 –> 01:14:48.069
Speaker:
I want it to go away because it
doesn’t belong here anymore.

2187
01:14:48.069 –> 01:14:51.939
Speaker:
We want to clean it all out now,
just like the same way.

2188
01:14:51.939 –> 01:14:54.720
Speaker:
If you’ve ever seen those
pictures of a fighter jet

2189
01:14:54.720 –> 01:15:00.819
Speaker:
running through space, and he’s
right at the speed of sound, and

2190
01:15:00.819 –> 01:15:03.420
Speaker:
you’ve seen those where they got
those venticular clouds right in

2191
01:15:03.420 –> 01:15:04.220
Speaker:
front of the jet.

2192
01:15:04.220 –> 01:15:05.699
Speaker:
That’s like those those sound

2193
01:15:05.699 –> 01:15:07.100
Speaker:
waves that get backed up because

2194
01:15:07.100 –> 01:15:08.380
Speaker:
the sound he’s putting out away

2195
01:15:08.380 –> 01:15:10.380
Speaker:
from him, he’s actually at the

2196
01:15:10.380 –> 01:15:12.659
Speaker:
same speed of them until he

2197
01:15:12.659 –> 01:15:15.260
Speaker:
crosses just past the speed of

2198
01:15:15.260 –> 01:15:15.739
Speaker:
sound.

2199
01:15:15.739 –> 01:15:18.420
Speaker:
And you hear that crack and the
clouds blow away.

2200
01:15:18.420 –> 01:15:20.659
Speaker:
And from down here, we hear the
thunder of this.

2201
01:15:20.659 –> 01:15:23.460
Speaker:
Oh, yeah, another jet just broke
the speed barrier, right?

2202
01:15:23.460 –> 01:15:24.020
Speaker:
Yeah, yeah.

2203
01:15:24.020 –> 01:15:24.859
Speaker:
Live in San Diego.

2204
01:15:24.859 –> 01:15:27.420
Speaker:
And tell me how often, you know,
you get to hear that, right?

2205
01:15:27.420 –> 01:15:27.779
Speaker:
Right.

2206
01:15:27.779 –> 01:15:29.779
Speaker:
You know, we’re I’m over here in
Indiana.

2207
01:15:29.779 –> 01:15:31.579
Speaker:
We are all our jets are way up
in the air.

2208
01:15:31.579 –> 01:15:34.180
Speaker:
And they’ve got, you know, you
know, one hundred and fifty

2209
01:15:34.180 –> 01:15:35.020
Speaker:
people on them.

2210
01:15:35.020 –> 01:15:37.899
Speaker:
So think about whenever you’re

2211
01:15:37.899 –> 01:15:39.300
Speaker:
smudging the house as you’re

2212
01:15:39.300 –> 01:15:40.659
Speaker:
walking through the house with

2213
01:15:40.659 –> 01:15:42.180
Speaker:
the smudge going on, you’re

2214
01:15:42.180 –> 01:15:43.460
Speaker:
collecting all that energy in

2215
01:15:43.460 –> 01:15:44.300
Speaker:
front of you, just like a

2216
01:15:44.300 –> 01:15:45.539
Speaker:
fighter jet collecting sound

2217
01:15:45.539 –> 01:15:46.859
Speaker:
waves.

2218
01:15:46.859 –> 01:15:49.079
Speaker:
And just like that, also think

2219
01:15:49.079 –> 01:15:50.979
Speaker:
about as you’re smudging the

2220
01:15:50.979 –> 01:15:52.420
Speaker:
house.

2221
01:15:52.420 –> 01:15:56.859
Speaker:
Um, imagine the Zamboni driver
at the hockey game, right?

2222
01:15:56.859 –> 01:15:58.140
Speaker:
He doesn’t just get out on the

2223
01:15:58.140 –> 01:15:59.819
Speaker:
Zamboni and just drive around in

2224
01:15:59.819 –> 01:16:01.020
Speaker:
circles and just kind of just,

2225
01:16:01.020 –> 01:16:02.500
Speaker:
you know, do this drunken thing

2226
01:16:02.500 –> 01:16:03.619
Speaker:
where he just goes wherever he

2227
01:16:03.619 –> 01:16:04.659
Speaker:
wants, right?

2228
01:16:04.659 –> 01:16:10.260
Speaker:
Because if he leaves one little
patch of non smoothed ice, one

2229
01:16:10.260 –> 01:16:13.420
Speaker:
little patch of rough ice can
break a guy’s ankle.

2230
01:16:13.420 –> 01:16:15.500
Speaker:
It could cause a major calamity.

2231
01:16:15.500 –> 01:16:17.239
Speaker:
So he has to use a pattern to

2232
01:16:17.239 –> 01:16:20.300
Speaker:
keep all the broken ice in front

2233
01:16:20.300 –> 01:16:22.060
Speaker:
of him, and leave the smooth ice

2234
01:16:22.060 –> 01:16:23.340
Speaker:
behind.

2235
01:16:23.340 –> 01:16:26.500
Speaker:
In the exact same way that the
guy who comes out at halftime

2236
01:16:26.500 –> 01:16:30.779
Speaker:
during a basketball game, he’s
got the dust, my broom, and he’s

2237
01:16:30.779 –> 01:16:31.819
Speaker:
going up and down.

2238
01:16:31.819 –> 01:16:32.779
Speaker:
Because if he leaves a little

2239
01:16:32.779 –> 01:16:33.939
Speaker:
bit of dust behind, somebody

2240
01:16:33.939 –> 01:16:35.500
Speaker:
could slide and throw out an

2241
01:16:35.500 –> 01:16:36.699
Speaker:
ACL.

2242
01:16:36.699 –> 01:16:38.380
Speaker:
So when I’m smudging, I’m

2243
01:16:38.380 –> 01:16:40.020
Speaker:
thinking about all this stays in

2244
01:16:40.020 –> 01:16:41.340
Speaker:
front of me and I don’t leave

2245
01:16:41.340 –> 01:16:42.539
Speaker:
anything behind.

2246
01:16:42.539 –> 01:16:45.060
Speaker:
And whenever I get finished with
the whole house, it goes right

2247
01:16:45.060 –> 01:16:46.859
Speaker:
out the front door.

2248
01:16:46.859 –> 01:16:48.489
Speaker:
So now I’ve swept the house.

2249
01:16:48.489 –> 01:16:49.210
Speaker:
It’s clear.

2250
01:16:49.210 –> 01:16:50.210
Speaker:
It’s clean.

2251
01:16:51.449 –> 01:16:53.090
Speaker:
Okay, that explains that.

2252
01:16:53.090 –> 01:16:56.329
Speaker:
I’d never heard the term smudge
before, so that’s awesome.

2253
01:16:56.329 –> 01:16:57.850
Speaker:
Well, a lot of people call it
Saging.

2254
01:16:57.850 –> 01:16:58.250
Speaker:
Saging.

2255
01:16:58.250 –> 01:16:58.609
Speaker:
I’ve heard.

2256
01:16:58.609 –> 01:16:58.930
Speaker:
Yeah.

2257
01:16:58.930 –> 01:16:59.449
Speaker:
Okay.

2258
01:16:59.449 –> 01:17:03.050
Speaker:
Yeah, well, you can use a lot of
different things besides sage.

2259
01:17:03.050 –> 01:17:03.409
Speaker:
Yeah.

2260
01:17:03.409 –> 01:17:07.329
Speaker:
The four elements of the Native
Americans was tobacco, sage,

2261
01:17:07.329 –> 01:17:09.170
Speaker:
sweetgrass and cedar.

2262
01:17:09.170 –> 01:17:13.850
Speaker:
And if they wanted to, uh, they,
if they wanted to have a moment

2263
01:17:13.850 –> 01:17:15.729
Speaker:
where they would say, right,
here’s where we’re going to

2264
01:17:15.729 –> 01:17:18.489
Speaker:
build a spot where we’re going
to talk to Great Spirit, they

2265
01:17:18.489 –> 01:17:21.810
Speaker:
would have to clear that space
out first, and then they would

2266
01:17:21.810 –> 01:17:23.050
Speaker:
have to bless that space.

2267
01:17:23.050 –> 01:17:24.449
Speaker:
So it would be nice and clean.

2268
01:17:24.449 –> 01:17:26.729
Speaker:
And then they would burn
sweetgrass and say, hey, great

2269
01:17:26.729 –> 01:17:29.329
Speaker:
spirits, come down here and talk
with us and be with us.

2270
01:17:29.329 –> 01:17:33.010
Speaker:
And so it was a it was a big
process, though oftentimes in a

2271
01:17:33.010 –> 01:17:36.770
Speaker:
sweat lodge, they will coat the
floor with sage leaves.

2272
01:17:36.770 –> 01:17:38.130
Speaker:
So that way as they’re burning

2273
01:17:38.130 –> 01:17:40.489
Speaker:
the rocks and that that water is

2274
01:17:40.489 –> 01:17:41.770
Speaker:
being evaporated out of the

2275
01:17:41.770 –> 01:17:44.050
Speaker:
central pit, it is wafting all

2276
01:17:44.050 –> 01:17:45.805
Speaker:
that sage up and you get to

2277
01:17:45.805 –> 01:17:48.420
Speaker:
enjoy that moment of being

2278
01:17:48.420 –> 01:17:49.880
Speaker:
immersed in that sage and

2279
01:17:49.880 –> 01:17:50.800
Speaker:
cleansing you.

2280
01:17:50.800 –> 01:17:52.520
Speaker:
So that way, whenever you are in

2281
01:17:52.520 –> 01:17:54.039
Speaker:
the midst of your suffering and

2282
01:17:54.039 –> 01:17:56.560
Speaker:
the sweat, your prayers can be

2283
01:17:56.560 –> 01:17:57.119
Speaker:
heard.

2284
01:17:57.119 –> 01:17:57.800
Speaker:
I see.

2285
01:17:57.800 –> 01:17:59.439
Speaker:
Okay, that makes sense.

2286
01:17:59.439 –> 01:18:00.399
Speaker:
And that’s the same thing.

2287
01:18:00.399 –> 01:18:01.079
Speaker:
Okay.

2288
01:18:01.079 –> 01:18:05.319
Speaker:
Take a look at, um, the typical
prayer position, right?

2289
01:18:05.319 –> 01:18:06.840
Speaker:
What’s prayer position?

2290
01:18:06.840 –> 01:18:10.399
Speaker:
Well, I mean, you’re basically
kneeling or crossing your hands

2291
01:18:10.399 –> 01:18:14.119
Speaker:
and you usually have palms
together, palms together.

2292
01:18:14.119 –> 01:18:17.399
Speaker:
They’re usually they’re usually
somewhere near your upper chest.

2293
01:18:17.399 –> 01:18:19.039
Speaker:
Your hands may either be with

2294
01:18:19.039 –> 01:18:20.680
Speaker:
straight fingers or with fingers

2295
01:18:20.680 –> 01:18:21.720
Speaker:
latched.

2296
01:18:21.720 –> 01:18:23.800
Speaker:
Why did that come about?

2297
01:18:23.800 –> 01:18:25.600
Speaker:
Why do we have so many paintings

2298
01:18:25.600 –> 01:18:28.359
Speaker:
of people with their hands

2299
01:18:28.359 –> 01:18:30.319
Speaker:
pressed together at their upper

2300
01:18:30.319 –> 01:18:31.800
Speaker:
chest?

2301
01:18:31.800 –> 01:18:35.239
Speaker:
Why did that become the prayer
position?

2302
01:18:35.239 –> 01:18:37.159
Speaker:
They even do it at the end of
yoga.

2303
01:18:37.159 –> 01:18:38.199
Speaker:
Stand with your feet together.

2304
01:18:38.199 –> 01:18:39.279
Speaker:
Hands up in prayer position.

2305
01:18:39.279 –> 01:18:39.760
Speaker:
Now bow.

2306
01:18:39.760 –> 01:18:40.880
Speaker:
Namaste.

2307
01:18:40.880 –> 01:18:47.840
Speaker:
Okay, that came about because At
the time referred to in the

2308
01:18:47.840 –> 01:18:51.300
Speaker:
Bible during the time, like
thousands of years ago, for four

2309
01:18:51.300 –> 01:18:52.479
Speaker:
or five thousand years ago.

2310
01:18:52.479 –> 01:18:53.439
Speaker:
Right?

2311
01:18:53.439 –> 01:18:55.439
Speaker:
The idea of getting a bath.

2312
01:18:55.439 –> 01:18:59.600
Speaker:
Hell, even up through the Middle
Ages, getting a bath was a twice

2313
01:18:59.600 –> 01:19:00.560
Speaker:
a year event.

2314
01:19:01.720 –> 01:19:02.600
Speaker:
You didn’t get a bath.

2315
01:19:02.600 –> 01:19:05.800
Speaker:
Every three Americans is like,
oh my God, Europeans smell.

2316
01:19:05.800 –> 01:19:07.720
Speaker:
Well, yeah, because they don’t
they’re not.

2317
01:19:07.720 –> 01:19:10.819
Speaker:
So like, first of all, they
don’t coat themselves with a

2318
01:19:10.819 –> 01:19:15.060
Speaker:
thousand products like we do and
that are and they’re, they

2319
01:19:15.060 –> 01:19:19.680
Speaker:
don’t, they don’t feel the need
to strip themselves down the way

2320
01:19:19.680 –> 01:19:23.399
Speaker:
we do with baths and lotions and
soaps and all this other crap

2321
01:19:23.399 –> 01:19:25.640
Speaker:
with all these chemicals.

2322
01:19:25.640 –> 01:19:33.300
Speaker:
Now back, you know, up up until,
well, heck, even my parents

2323
01:19:33.300 –> 01:19:36.960
Speaker:
would get a bath once a week and
that was in the forties and 50s.

2324
01:19:38.079 –> 01:19:41.520
Speaker:
Okay, so this is this idea of I
got to get up every morning and

2325
01:19:41.520 –> 01:19:44.789
Speaker:
take a shower and scrub myself
down and exfoliate and all this.

2326
01:19:44.789 –> 01:19:46.630
Speaker:
That’s a brand new thing.

2327
01:19:47.829 –> 01:19:49.069
Speaker:
So you’re talking about a group

2328
01:19:49.069 –> 01:19:51.149
Speaker:
of people that took a bath twice

2329
01:19:51.149 –> 01:19:52.109
Speaker:
a year.

2330
01:19:52.109 –> 01:19:54.350
Speaker:
And even in the Bible that they

2331
01:19:54.350 –> 01:19:55.630
Speaker:
said that the Hebrews would only

2332
01:19:55.630 –> 01:19:57.350
Speaker:
do it right before their huge

2333
01:19:57.350 –> 01:19:59.350
Speaker:
celebrations.

2334
01:19:59.350 –> 01:20:02.189
Speaker:
They had two big feasts of a
year, and you had to be clean in

2335
01:20:02.189 –> 01:20:04.270
Speaker:
order to enjoy the feast, right?

2336
01:20:05.470 –> 01:20:10.949
Speaker:
All the other days of the year,
you would use essential oils and

2337
01:20:10.949 –> 01:20:14.069
Speaker:
you would wash your body down
with essential oils that would

2338
01:20:14.069 –> 01:20:19.310
Speaker:
be perfumed, um, like they would
use olive oil or, you know, some

2339
01:20:19.310 –> 01:20:21.829
Speaker:
other kind of oil from normally
from olives because it’s the

2340
01:20:21.829 –> 01:20:24.989
Speaker:
easiest to get at and cut, you
know, uh, cotton seed oil is

2341
01:20:24.989 –> 01:20:25.829
Speaker:
very difficult to get.

2342
01:20:25.829 –> 01:20:28.510
Speaker:
You have to use hexane, which is
what they use to turn crude oil

2343
01:20:28.510 –> 01:20:30.869
Speaker:
into gasoline, which is why I
never eat oils.

2344
01:20:30.869 –> 01:20:34.909
Speaker:
So in order to keep you from
getting staph infections, uh,

2345
01:20:34.909 –> 01:20:39.949
Speaker:
crotch rot, uh, heat rash and
having bugs and all that other

2346
01:20:39.949 –> 01:20:42.409
Speaker:
stuff growing in your beard and
your hair because, you know,

2347
01:20:42.409 –> 01:20:45.189
Speaker:
dudes back then had long hair
and long beards.

2348
01:20:45.189 –> 01:20:47.229
Speaker:
That was a mark of distinction.

2349
01:20:47.229 –> 01:20:50.189
Speaker:
So you rubbed oil into your
beard, you rubbed oil into your

2350
01:20:50.189 –> 01:20:52.949
Speaker:
hair, you put oil under your
armpits, you put oil in your

2351
01:20:52.949 –> 01:20:55.390
Speaker:
crotch, and that kept you clean.

2352
01:20:55.390 –> 01:21:00.869
Speaker:
It kept you sanitary, and it
kept you smelling nice because,

2353
01:21:00.869 –> 01:21:05.949
Speaker:
you know, it’s hard for you to
have kids and build your housely

2354
01:21:05.949 –> 01:21:08.229
Speaker:
kingdom if your wife don’t want
to be around you naked.

2355
01:21:08.229 –> 01:21:08.789
Speaker:
This is true.

2356
01:21:08.789 –> 01:21:09.390
Speaker:
Yeah.

2357
01:21:09.390 –> 01:21:10.430
Speaker:
Okay.

2358
01:21:10.430 –> 01:21:12.590
Speaker:
So now, because we know from

2359
01:21:12.590 –> 01:21:14.649
Speaker:
aromatherapy that every aroma

2360
01:21:14.649 –> 01:21:16.750
Speaker:
out there, every flower scent,

2361
01:21:16.750 –> 01:21:19.909
Speaker:
every tree bark, every root, it

2362
01:21:19.909 –> 01:21:21.590
Speaker:
affects the mind in a different

2363
01:21:21.590 –> 01:21:22.630
Speaker:
way.

2364
01:21:22.630 –> 01:21:28.270
Speaker:
If I want to elevate my energy,
I will inhale lemon or orange or

2365
01:21:28.270 –> 01:21:29.390
Speaker:
something like that.

2366
01:21:29.390 –> 01:21:30.069
Speaker:
Pine.

2367
01:21:30.069 –> 01:21:30.829
Speaker:
Mhm.

2368
01:21:30.829 –> 01:21:32.590
Speaker:
If I want to relax, which is

2369
01:21:32.590 –> 01:21:33.989
Speaker:
what I do with my clients in

2370
01:21:33.989 –> 01:21:36.109
Speaker:
Reiki, I will put lavender on my

2371
01:21:36.109 –> 01:21:38.210
Speaker:
hands, lavender essential oil,

2372
01:21:38.210 –> 01:21:40.220
Speaker:
and I will hold my hands over

2373
01:21:40.220 –> 01:21:40.699
Speaker:
their face.

2374
01:21:40.699 –> 01:21:42.300
Speaker:
So they’re breathing in all that

2375
01:21:42.300 –> 01:21:44.300
Speaker:
lavender and it calms the

2376
01:21:44.300 –> 01:21:45.979
Speaker:
nervous system.

2377
01:21:45.979 –> 01:21:48.279
Speaker:
If I want to elevate my spirit,

2378
01:21:48.279 –> 01:21:50.100
Speaker:
I’ll use what the Catholic

2379
01:21:50.100 –> 01:21:51.979
Speaker:
Church has used for a thousand

2380
01:21:51.979 –> 01:21:53.600
Speaker:
years, which is frankincense and

2381
01:21:53.600 –> 01:21:54.060
Speaker:
myrrh.

2382
01:21:54.060 –> 01:21:55.500
Speaker:
That’s what’s in those sensors

2383
01:21:55.500 –> 01:21:56.819
Speaker:
that they put out over everybody

2384
01:21:56.819 –> 01:22:00.000
Speaker:
in in the cathedral, because it

2385
01:22:00.000 –> 01:22:02.439
Speaker:
raises the spirit and it

2386
01:22:02.439 –> 01:22:04.020
Speaker:
essentially raises your

2387
01:22:04.020 –> 01:22:05.819
Speaker:
vibration so you can commune

2388
01:22:05.819 –> 01:22:07.300
Speaker:
with God.

2389
01:22:07.300 –> 01:22:10.539
Speaker:
It also helps because of the
smoke, to clear the space of any

2390
01:22:10.539 –> 01:22:13.340
Speaker:
negative energy you brought in
with you that day.

2391
01:22:13.340 –> 01:22:14.180
Speaker:
But you’ll notice.

2392
01:22:14.180 –> 01:22:17.260
Speaker:
But before they start to do the
Eucharist, they always come

2393
01:22:17.260 –> 01:22:20.380
Speaker:
around and they censor the
altar, they censor the elements,

2394
01:22:20.380 –> 01:22:23.180
Speaker:
they censor everything, and
they’ll walk through the crowd

2395
01:22:23.180 –> 01:22:25.420
Speaker:
and they’ll waft that big old
censer around with them.

2396
01:22:25.420 –> 01:22:26.979
Speaker:
And it’s just smoking, right?

2397
01:22:26.979 –> 01:22:28.739
Speaker:
And the whole place will be
filled with smoke.

2398
01:22:28.739 –> 01:22:31.619
Speaker:
It’s to get that place cleared
out.

2399
01:22:31.619 –> 01:22:34.500
Speaker:
So now if I want to elevate my

2400
01:22:34.500 –> 01:22:36.300
Speaker:
spirit during a time of personal

2401
01:22:36.300 –> 01:22:38.699
Speaker:
prayer, I would rub frankincense

2402
01:22:38.699 –> 01:22:41.020
Speaker:
and myrrh oil on my hands and

2403
01:22:41.020 –> 01:22:42.659
Speaker:
put them together right

2404
01:22:42.659 –> 01:22:44.699
Speaker:
underneath my face and inhale

2405
01:22:44.699 –> 01:22:45.699
Speaker:
that aroma.

2406
01:22:45.699 –> 01:22:47.220
Speaker:
Ah, okay.

2407
01:22:47.220 –> 01:22:49.460
Speaker:
That’s why we have prayer
position.

2408
01:22:49.460 –> 01:22:50.380
Speaker:
That makes sense.

2409
01:22:50.380 –> 01:22:51.579
Speaker:
Okay.

2410
01:22:51.579 –> 01:22:52.859
Speaker:
I’d never thought about that.

2411
01:22:52.859 –> 01:22:53.100
Speaker:
So.

2412
01:22:53.100 –> 01:22:53.500
Speaker:
Wow.

2413
01:22:53.500 –> 01:22:55.859
Speaker:
Yeah, that’s that’s why it’s
there.

2414
01:22:55.859 –> 01:22:58.899
Speaker:
It’s because of the culture
where it came from.

2415
01:22:58.899 –> 01:23:01.539
Speaker:
You know, we think like we’re so
original, but everything that we

2416
01:23:01.539 –> 01:23:02.779
Speaker:
do is thousands of years old.

2417
01:23:02.779 –> 01:23:04.220
Speaker:
We’re not all that smart, you

2418
01:23:04.220 –> 01:23:06.300
Speaker:
know, why have so many more

2419
01:23:06.300 –> 01:23:06.739
Speaker:
questions?

2420
01:23:06.739 –> 01:23:09.380
Speaker:
And actually, one thing I wanted
to get into, but I don’t I think

2421
01:23:09.380 –> 01:23:10.380
Speaker:
we’ve run out of time.

2422
01:23:10.380 –> 01:23:14.500
Speaker:
So I think maybe next time one
of your, uh, encounters on the

2423
01:23:14.500 –> 01:23:17.939
Speaker:
job was actually featured on a
travel channel, uh, episode of

2424
01:23:17.939 –> 01:23:19.939
Speaker:
paranormal nine one one.

2425
01:23:19.939 –> 01:23:20.539
Speaker:
Oh, yes.

2426
01:23:20.539 –> 01:23:22.659
Speaker:
And I really want to get into
that, but I think maybe next

2427
01:23:22.659 –> 01:23:24.460
Speaker:
time we can maybe go into that.

2428
01:23:24.460 –> 01:23:27.340
Speaker:
So if people want to, I would
love to have a next time.

2429
01:23:27.340 –> 01:23:29.199
Speaker:
And now that during this show,

2430
01:23:29.199 –> 01:23:30.560
Speaker:
I’ve been able to kind of

2431
01:23:30.560 –> 01:23:33.300
Speaker:
expound on the, the metaphysics

2432
01:23:33.300 –> 01:23:34.739
Speaker:
and the quantum physics of what

2433
01:23:34.739 –> 01:23:37.210
Speaker:
actually happens and what can

2434
01:23:37.210 –> 01:23:38.569
Speaker:
happen.

2435
01:23:38.569 –> 01:23:40.930
Speaker:
It will allow me to do a lot

2436
01:23:40.930 –> 01:23:43.609
Speaker:
less backup explaining for what

2437
01:23:43.609 –> 01:23:45.210
Speaker:
happened on that particular

2438
01:23:45.210 –> 01:23:46.010
Speaker:
event.

2439
01:23:46.010 –> 01:23:47.810
Speaker:
Let me just say, if you go and

2440
01:23:47.810 –> 01:23:49.289
Speaker:
watch the show, it’s paranormal

2441
01:23:49.289 –> 01:23:50.609
Speaker:
nine one one on the Travel

2442
01:23:50.609 –> 01:23:51.289
Speaker:
Channel.

2443
01:23:51.289 –> 01:23:56.289
Speaker:
You can see it on Amazon Prime,
you can see it on YouTube.

2444
01:23:56.289 –> 01:23:58.970
Speaker:
Um, it is season one, episode
twelve.

2445
01:23:58.970 –> 01:24:00.970
Speaker:
The episode is called Demon Boss

2446
01:24:00.970 –> 01:24:03.449
Speaker:
and, uh, it’s called Demon Boss

2447
01:24:03.449 –> 01:24:05.010
Speaker:
because I told the producers

2448
01:24:05.010 –> 01:24:06.329
Speaker:
when they were filming this up

2449
01:24:06.329 –> 01:24:08.789
Speaker:
in Buffalo, I said it was kind

2450
01:24:08.789 –> 01:24:10.689
Speaker:
of like where, uh, you’re

2451
01:24:10.689 –> 01:24:11.729
Speaker:
playing a video game, but you

2452
01:24:11.729 –> 01:24:12.729
Speaker:
got to go through the minions

2453
01:24:12.729 –> 01:24:14.109
Speaker:
before you get to the boss,

2454
01:24:14.109 –> 01:24:15.250
Speaker:
right?

2455
01:24:15.250 –> 01:24:17.010
Speaker:
You know, you got to go through
twenty eight levels.

2456
01:24:17.010 –> 01:24:18.810
Speaker:
Like if you’re playing Donkey
Kong, right?

2457
01:24:18.810 –> 01:24:19.569
Speaker:
You’re going to go through

2458
01:24:19.569 –> 01:24:21.010
Speaker:
twenty eight levels of barrels

2459
01:24:21.010 –> 01:24:21.850
Speaker:
and all this kind of stuff

2460
01:24:21.850 –> 01:24:22.850
Speaker:
before you finally get to the

2461
01:24:22.850 –> 01:24:23.130
Speaker:
monkey.

2462
01:24:23.130 –> 01:24:23.930
Speaker:
Right?

2463
01:24:23.930 –> 01:24:25.850
Speaker:
And it’s, you know, it’s just
the same thing.

2464
01:24:25.850 –> 01:24:26.970
Speaker:
I had to go through all these

2465
01:24:26.970 –> 01:24:28.149
Speaker:
minions before I could get to

2466
01:24:28.149 –> 01:24:29.010
Speaker:
the boss.

2467
01:24:29.010 –> 01:24:31.489
Speaker:
And so I said, you know, it was
like the demon boss.

2468
01:24:31.489 –> 01:24:34.050
Speaker:
And then they said, okay, that’s
a great name for the show.

2469
01:24:34.050 –> 01:24:35.649
Speaker:
But if you if you watch the

2470
01:24:35.649 –> 01:24:37.270
Speaker:
episode, it’s a episode or

2471
01:24:37.270 –> 01:24:38.350
Speaker:
season one, episode twelve,

2472
01:24:38.350 –> 01:24:39.890
Speaker:
Demon Boss.

2473
01:24:39.890 –> 01:24:43.409
Speaker:
Um, they were supposed to give
me of the full hour because they

2474
01:24:43.409 –> 01:24:46.649
Speaker:
filmed me for almost like two
and a half hours, three hours.

2475
01:24:46.649 –> 01:24:49.170
Speaker:
And they, they were originally
said, okay, well, we’re, you

2476
01:24:49.170 –> 01:24:51.890
Speaker:
know, your segment’s going to
be, you know, the first half

2477
01:24:51.890 –> 01:24:52.449
Speaker:
hour of the show.

2478
01:24:52.449 –> 01:24:55.369
Speaker:
So that’s twenty two minutes
after the commercials.

2479
01:24:55.369 –> 01:24:58.689
Speaker:
And they said, um, okay, no,
actually I changed my mind.

2480
01:24:58.689 –> 01:24:59.529
Speaker:
You’re going to get the whole
show.

2481
01:24:59.529 –> 01:25:02.369
Speaker:
But what they did was they took
my story.

2482
01:25:02.369 –> 01:25:05.069
Speaker:
And the format of the show is

2483
01:25:05.069 –> 01:25:07.090
Speaker:
first responders who encounter

2484
01:25:07.090 –> 01:25:08.729
Speaker:
scary stuff.

2485
01:25:08.729 –> 01:25:10.569
Speaker:
So that’s the whole premise of
the show.

2486
01:25:10.569 –> 01:25:11.850
Speaker:
It’s not what they did.

2487
01:25:11.850 –> 01:25:14.050
Speaker:
It’s not what you know, whether
they captured evidence.

2488
01:25:14.050 –> 01:25:15.609
Speaker:
It’s like, hey, I’m a cop.

2489
01:25:15.609 –> 01:25:18.130
Speaker:
I did a burglary call and I saw
something scary.

2490
01:25:18.130 –> 01:25:19.970
Speaker:
Here’s my story.

2491
01:25:19.970 –> 01:25:24.930
Speaker:
And so because I was a cop when
I did this thing, I wrote them

2492
01:25:24.930 –> 01:25:26.850
Speaker:
the story out and I said, hey,
you know, if you want to talk

2493
01:25:26.850 –> 01:25:28.090
Speaker:
about this, let me have it.

2494
01:25:28.090 –> 01:25:30.050
Speaker:
And so we got around to filming
this.

2495
01:25:30.050 –> 01:25:33.680
Speaker:
They took my story and had to
change it to not only fit the

2496
01:25:33.680 –> 01:25:35.359
Speaker:
format, but the time frame.

2497
01:25:36.359 –> 01:25:37.920
Speaker:
So when I do tell you this

2498
01:25:37.920 –> 01:25:39.960
Speaker:
story, it is much, much

2499
01:25:39.960 –> 01:25:41.760
Speaker:
different than.

2500
01:25:41.760 –> 01:25:42.359
Speaker:
Than what?

2501
01:25:42.359 –> 01:25:43.159
Speaker:
That TV show?

2502
01:25:43.159 –> 01:25:43.960
Speaker:
That TV show.

2503
01:25:43.960 –> 01:25:45.960
Speaker:
Like I said, they had to meet
the format.

2504
01:25:45.960 –> 01:25:47.520
Speaker:
They had to meet the time frame.

2505
01:25:47.520 –> 01:25:50.520
Speaker:
And so that’s, you know, that’s,
I knew that going in.

2506
01:25:50.520 –> 01:25:52.720
Speaker:
And so I’m not even, I’m not
even miffed about it.

2507
01:25:52.720 –> 01:25:54.760
Speaker:
Like, okay, I know this is going
to happen.

2508
01:25:54.760 –> 01:25:56.319
Speaker:
But yeah, if I’m given the

2509
01:25:56.319 –> 01:25:57.359
Speaker:
opportunity to come back a

2510
01:25:57.359 –> 01:25:58.600
Speaker:
second time, I would love to go

2511
01:25:58.600 –> 01:26:00.119
Speaker:
into that story because it is

2512
01:26:00.119 –> 01:26:01.199
Speaker:
much different.

2513
01:26:01.199 –> 01:26:01.800
Speaker:
Well, definitely.

2514
01:26:01.800 –> 01:26:03.000
Speaker:
And I’ll have links to that

2515
01:26:03.000 –> 01:26:04.560
Speaker:
episode in the show notes, and

2516
01:26:04.560 –> 01:26:05.659
Speaker:
I’ll have links to all of your

2517
01:26:05.659 –> 01:26:06.760
Speaker:
the ways people can get Ahold of

2518
01:26:06.760 –> 01:26:07.399
Speaker:
you, Joe.

2519
01:26:07.399 –> 01:26:10.640
Speaker:
And absolutely in the show notes
and how if you, if people need

2520
01:26:10.640 –> 01:26:12.920
Speaker:
to get Ahold of you to, you
know, for your business or how

2521
01:26:12.920 –> 01:26:13.560
Speaker:
would they do that?

2522
01:26:13.560 –> 01:26:16.279
Speaker:
What’s the best way for them to
do that?

2523
01:26:16.279 –> 01:26:19.439
Speaker:
You can either reach me on
Facebook messenger.

2524
01:26:19.439 –> 01:26:24.039
Speaker:
Um, you can, um, email me at one
of my several emails.

2525
01:26:24.039 –> 01:26:27.500
Speaker:
Um, you can reach me at Joe at

2526
01:26:27.500 –> 01:26:29.199
Speaker:
Tri-State holistic wellness dot

2527
01:26:29.199 –> 01:26:33.319
Speaker:
com Or you can reach me at, um,

2528
01:26:33.319 –> 01:26:34.800
Speaker:
Epic Paranormal.

2529
01:26:34.800 –> 01:26:37.039
Speaker:
Peace at gmail dot com.

2530
01:26:37.039 –> 01:26:37.439
Speaker:
Perfect.

2531
01:26:37.439 –> 01:26:39.920
Speaker:
I’ll have all of those in the
show notes at River city mystery

2532
01:26:39.920 –> 01:26:41.239
Speaker:
dot com slash.

2533
01:26:41.239 –> 01:26:43.000
Speaker:
So if anyone wants to check all
that out.

2534
01:26:43.000 –> 01:26:44.760
Speaker:
So and you’ve kind of agreed to

2535
01:26:44.760 –> 01:26:46.119
Speaker:
be our subject matter expert on

2536
01:26:46.119 –> 01:26:47.239
Speaker:
all things paranormal in the

2537
01:26:47.239 –> 01:26:47.560
Speaker:
area.

2538
01:26:47.560 –> 01:26:48.439
Speaker:
So we’ll definitely have you

2539
01:26:48.439 –> 01:26:49.819
Speaker:
back to talk about, you know,

2540
01:26:49.819 –> 01:26:50.560
Speaker:
specific issues.

2541
01:26:50.560 –> 01:26:51.880
Speaker:
Like you said, you know, now

2542
01:26:51.880 –> 01:26:53.260
Speaker:
that we’ve kind of discussed who

2543
01:26:53.260 –> 01:26:54.739
Speaker:
you are and what you do, maybe

2544
01:26:54.739 –> 01:26:56.199
Speaker:
kind of dig in a little bit into

2545
01:26:56.199 –> 01:26:56.840
Speaker:
the details.

2546
01:26:56.840 –> 01:26:59.439
Speaker:
So I would relish the
opportunity.

2547
01:26:59.439 –> 01:26:59.800
Speaker:
All right.

2548
01:26:59.800 –> 01:27:02.579
Speaker:
And if anyone would like to ask
Joe any questions, feel free to

2549
01:27:02.579 –> 01:27:05.920
Speaker:
contact me at RiverCityMystery.com/contact.

2550
01:27:05.920 –> 01:27:09.279
Speaker:
And you can leave a voice memo
or a text message.

2551
01:27:09.279 –> 01:27:11.479
Speaker:
And I can submit those questions

2552
01:27:11.479 –> 01:27:12.680
Speaker:
to Joe for the next time he’s on

2553
01:27:12.680 –> 01:27:12.880
Speaker:
the show.

2554
01:27:12.880 –> 01:27:16.159
Speaker:
Or we can maybe even set up, set
up a time for the three of us

2555
01:27:16.159 –> 01:27:17.640
Speaker:
to, to get together and talk.

2556
01:27:17.640 –> 01:27:19.479
Speaker:
I appreciate you joining me
today, Joe.

2557
01:27:19.479 –> 01:27:21.800
Speaker:
And, uh, thank you very much.

2558
01:27:21.800 –> 01:27:24.039
Speaker:
Oh, I’m, I’m grateful that you
asked me to be here.

2559
01:27:24.039 –> 01:27:24.960
Speaker:
This is a great honor.

2560
01:27:24.960 –> 01:27:25.760
Speaker:
Thank you.