Where is Andi?

1
00:00:00.160 –> 00:00:01.800
Speaker:
Twenty four year old Andi Wagner

2
00:00:01.800 –> 00:00:03.439
Speaker:
of Evansville, was last seen and

3
00:00:03.439 –> 00:00:04.759
Speaker:
heard from by family and

4
00:00:04.759 –> 00:00:05.160
Speaker:
friends.

5
00:00:05.160 –> 00:00:06.780
Speaker:
On August six, around eight

6
00:00:06.780 –> 00:00:08.400
Speaker:
thirty p m, she was reported

7
00:00:08.400 –> 00:00:10.039
Speaker:
missing by her family on August

8
00:00:10.039 –> 00:00:10.599
Speaker:
twelfth.

9
00:00:10.599 –> 00:00:12.279
Speaker:
I put it on the Indiana Missing

10
00:00:12.279 –> 00:00:14.240
Speaker:
People page, shared it on our

11
00:00:14.240 –> 00:00:14.880
Speaker:
pages.

12
00:00:14.880 –> 00:00:18.719
Speaker:
Her mother, Elaine Garcia, lives
in Texas, although miles away.

13
00:00:18.719 –> 00:00:20.280
Speaker:
She said she would frequently

14
00:00:20.280 –> 00:00:21.839
Speaker:
keep in contact with Andi and

15
00:00:21.839 –> 00:00:23.239
Speaker:
her other family members in

16
00:00:23.239 –> 00:00:23.839
Speaker:
Evansville.

17
00:00:23.839 –> 00:00:25.699
Speaker:
Garcia said she recalls a

18
00:00:25.699 –> 00:00:27.920
Speaker:
conversation with Andi stating

19
00:00:27.920 –> 00:00:29.300
Speaker:
that she wanted to leave

20
00:00:29.300 –> 00:00:30.120
Speaker:
Evansville.

21
00:00:30.120 –> 00:00:34.640
Speaker:
I told her that I was coming for
her sister’s birthday.

22
00:00:34.640 –> 00:00:35.960
Speaker:
She could go with me.

23
00:00:39.600 –> 00:00:40.880
Speaker:
She disappeared.

24
00:00:52.479 –> 00:00:53.840
Speaker:
You’re listening to River City

25
00:00:53.840 –> 00:00:55.560
Speaker:
Mystery Podcast, the show that

26
00:00:55.560 –> 00:00:56.880
Speaker:
delves into the Evansville and

27
00:00:56.880 –> 00:00:58.119
Speaker:
surrounding Tri-State area’s

28
00:00:58.119 –> 00:01:00.420
Speaker:
mysteries, including unsolved

29
00:01:00.420 –> 00:01:01.500
Speaker:
crimes, murders and

30
00:01:01.500 –> 00:01:03.020
Speaker:
disappearances.

31
00:01:03.020 –> 00:01:04.260
Speaker:
A show that isn’t afraid to jump

32
00:01:04.260 –> 00:01:05.159
Speaker:
down the rabbit hole to

33
00:01:05.159 –> 00:01:06.719
Speaker:
investigate reports of local

34
00:01:06.719 –> 00:01:08.620
Speaker:
hauntings, sightings of UFOs and

35
00:01:08.620 –> 00:01:10.299
Speaker:
cryptids, among other paranormal

36
00:01:10.299 –> 00:01:11.659
Speaker:
phenomena.

37
00:01:11.659 –> 00:01:13.260
Speaker:
With your host, co-founder of

38
00:01:13.260 –> 00:01:14.180
Speaker:
the Humans of Evansville

39
00:01:14.180 –> 00:01:15.459
Speaker:
Facebook page.

40
00:01:15.459 –> 00:01:16.939
Speaker:
Law office worker by day.

41
00:01:16.939 –> 00:01:19.459
Speaker:
Insomniac researcher of the
unknown by night.

42
00:01:19.459 –> 00:01:20.739
Speaker:
Matt Deig.

43
00:01:24.980 –> 00:01:27.219
Speaker:
Her sudden disappearance out of
the norm.

44
00:01:27.219 –> 00:01:30.840
Speaker:
Her family says it’s unusual for
Andi to go days with little to

45
00:01:30.840 –> 00:01:34.060
Speaker:
no contact, which is why they’re
speaking out, asking the

46
00:01:34.060 –> 00:01:35.700
Speaker:
community to help find her.

47
00:01:35.700 –> 00:01:37.700
Speaker:
Keep your eyes open if you can.

48
00:01:38.900 –> 00:01:42.180
Speaker:
If you see anybody, anybody
remotely that looks like Andi,

49
00:01:42.180 –> 00:01:44.260
Speaker:
just call the tip line.

50
00:01:44.260 –> 00:01:47.959
Speaker:
According to the flyer, Andi is
five feet, six inches and one

51
00:01:47.959 –> 00:01:49.459
Speaker:
hundred and fifteen pounds.

52
00:01:49.459 –> 00:01:52.819
Speaker:
She has dark brown hair, brown
eyes, and was last seen wearing

53
00:01:52.819 –> 00:01:54.579
Speaker:
an orange tank top and jeans.

54
00:01:54.579 –> 00:01:55.980
Speaker:
She is often known to be an

55
00:01:55.980 –> 00:01:57.620
Speaker:
Oakland city and the Newburgh

56
00:01:57.620 –> 00:01:58.099
Speaker:
area.

57
00:01:58.099 –> 00:02:02.560
Speaker:
She’s a bright young lady, you
know, she’s very outgoing.

58
00:02:02.560 –> 00:02:04.120
Speaker:
And despite previous reports,

59
00:02:04.120 –> 00:02:05.620
Speaker:
her family says she is not

60
00:02:05.620 –> 00:02:06.239
Speaker:
homeless.

61
00:02:06.239 –> 00:02:09.800
Speaker:
She had a home here with her
grandparents or with her dad.

62
00:02:09.800 –> 00:02:11.599
Speaker:
She was she was not homeless.

63
00:02:11.599 –> 00:02:13.479
Speaker:
She always had a home to come
to.

64
00:02:13.479 –> 00:02:17.439
Speaker:
I have to go back to Texas and I
have to go if I have to leave

65
00:02:17.439 –> 00:02:21.800
Speaker:
without knowing if she’s okay or
if she’s not found.

66
00:02:23.960 –> 00:02:25.460
Speaker:
It’s going to be hard, you know,

67
00:02:25.460 –> 00:02:26.960
Speaker:
going back to work, going back

68
00:02:26.960 –> 00:02:28.960
Speaker:
to Texas, not knowing if you

69
00:02:28.960 –> 00:02:30.659
Speaker:
have any information regarding

70
00:02:30.659 –> 00:02:32.080
Speaker:
Andi’s whereabouts, you are

71
00:02:32.080 –> 00:02:33.439
Speaker:
encouraged to call the

72
00:02:33.439 –> 00:02:34.879
Speaker:
Evansville Police Adult

73
00:02:34.879 –> 00:02:37.099
Speaker:
Investigations Unit at eight one

74
00:02:37.099 –> 00:02:39.740
Speaker:
two four three six seven nine

75
00:02:39.740 –> 00:02:40.680
Speaker:
seven nine.

76
00:02:40.680 –> 00:02:42.039
Speaker:
Reporting in Evansville.

77
00:02:42.039 –> 00:02:45.080
Speaker:
Sidney Spencer forty four news.

78
00:02:45.080 –> 00:02:46.800
Speaker:
Welcome to episode eleven.

79
00:02:46.800 –> 00:02:48.000
Speaker:
Where is Andi?

80
00:02:49.000 –> 00:02:50.879
Speaker:
A listener contacted me recently

81
00:02:50.879 –> 00:02:52.080
Speaker:
and brought this case to my

82
00:02:52.080 –> 00:02:52.639
Speaker:
attention.

83
00:02:52.639 –> 00:02:57.099
Speaker:
So I joined the Where Is Andi
Facebook page and saw that that

84
00:02:57.099 –> 00:03:00.389
Speaker:
there was a lot of activity on
that page and the family has

85
00:03:00.389 –> 00:03:05.610
Speaker:
been struggling to find answers
since Andi disappeared in August

86
00:03:05.610 –> 00:03:07.629
Speaker:
of twenty twenty two.

87
00:03:07.629 –> 00:03:10.449
Speaker:
She was last heard from around
August five or August six,

88
00:03:10.449 –> 00:03:13.830
Speaker:
twenty twenty two, and was
reported missing on August

89
00:03:13.830 –> 00:03:15.629
Speaker:
twelve, twenty twenty two.

90
00:03:15.629 –> 00:03:18.750
Speaker:
And to add a little bit to
Sidney Spencer’s report, Andi

91
00:03:18.750 –> 00:03:22.310
Speaker:
has a tattoo of a dreamcatcher
on her left forearm and the

92
00:03:22.310 –> 00:03:26.110
Speaker:
tattoo of the name Joshua Brown
on her right forearm.

93
00:03:26.110 –> 00:03:29.069
Speaker:
I encourage you to check out the
Where’s Andi Facebook page.

94
00:03:29.069 –> 00:03:30.449
Speaker:
There are tons of updates on

95
00:03:30.449 –> 00:03:31.830
Speaker:
that page, and our family and

96
00:03:31.830 –> 00:03:33.469
Speaker:
friends are constantly, you

97
00:03:33.469 –> 00:03:34.949
Speaker:
know, having events and

98
00:03:34.949 –> 00:03:36.389
Speaker:
gatherings.

99
00:03:36.389 –> 00:03:39.270
Speaker:
As a matter of fact, they
recently had a celebration of

100
00:03:39.270 –> 00:03:42.250
Speaker:
Andi’s twenty fifth birthday on
June ninth, twenty twenty three

101
00:03:42.250 –> 00:03:44.509
Speaker:
at the Evansville Riverfront.

102
00:03:44.509 –> 00:03:47.270
Speaker:
Andi’s mother, Elaine, did a
Facebook Live from the

103
00:03:47.270 –> 00:03:48.389
Speaker:
riverfront that day.

104
00:03:48.389 –> 00:03:51.229
Speaker:
And, you know, she has a lot of
people, family and friends who

105
00:03:51.229 –> 00:03:53.430
Speaker:
care about what happened.

106
00:03:53.430 –> 00:03:54.909
Speaker:
And a lot of them are concerned

107
00:03:54.909 –> 00:03:56.150
Speaker:
that the lack of attention on

108
00:03:56.150 –> 00:03:57.750
Speaker:
the case is going to result, in

109
00:03:57.750 –> 00:03:59.610
Speaker:
this case, just going cold and

110
00:03:59.610 –> 00:04:00.889
Speaker:
you know, no one no one’s ever

111
00:04:00.889 –> 00:04:01.689
Speaker:
going to figure out what

112
00:04:01.689 –> 00:04:02.849
Speaker:
happened.

113
00:04:02.849 –> 00:04:06.889
Speaker:
So hopefully with, you know, all
of these podcasts and YouTubers

114
00:04:06.889 –> 00:04:10.009
Speaker:
focusing on the case all of a
sudden, because there’s been

115
00:04:10.009 –> 00:04:11.969
Speaker:
quite a few that have been
focusing on this case over the

116
00:04:11.969 –> 00:04:13.169
Speaker:
past few months.

117
00:04:13.169 –> 00:04:17.050
Speaker:
Hopefully this focused attention
will make a difference and

118
00:04:17.050 –> 00:04:19.490
Speaker:
somebody’s going to hear
something and you know, they’re

119
00:04:19.490 –> 00:04:21.930
Speaker:
going to talk and maybe kind of
break open the case.

120
00:04:21.930 –> 00:04:23.730
Speaker:
That’s the that’s the goal
anyway.

121
00:04:23.730 –> 00:04:25.009
Speaker:
All of this recent attention has

122
00:04:25.009 –> 00:04:26.129
Speaker:
gotten the attention of Rick

123
00:04:26.129 –> 00:04:26.529
Speaker:
White.

124
00:04:26.529 –> 00:04:27.850
Speaker:
He’s the emergency management

125
00:04:27.850 –> 00:04:28.990
Speaker:
director in Union County,

126
00:04:28.990 –> 00:04:30.009
Speaker:
Kentucky.

127
00:04:30.009 –> 00:04:31.449
Speaker:
He also has a TikTok called

128
00:04:31.449 –> 00:04:33.009
Speaker:
Front Porch America, where he’s

129
00:04:33.009 –> 00:04:34.310
Speaker:
been focusing a lot on Andi’s

130
00:04:34.310 –> 00:04:35.569
Speaker:
case recently.

131
00:04:35.569 –> 00:04:37.290
Speaker:
And he has been very active on

132
00:04:37.290 –> 00:04:38.769
Speaker:
the Where’s Andi Facebook page,

133
00:04:38.769 –> 00:04:40.089
Speaker:
communicating with the family,

134
00:04:40.089 –> 00:04:42.810
Speaker:
with Andi’s mother Elaine, and

135
00:04:42.810 –> 00:04:45.529
Speaker:
her cousins Frankie Lee and a

136
00:04:45.529 –> 00:04:47.269
Speaker:
couple of others, and kind of

137
00:04:47.269 –> 00:04:49.689
Speaker:
taking charge in this recovery

138
00:04:49.689 –> 00:04:50.649
Speaker:
search.

139
00:04:50.649 –> 00:04:51.930
Speaker:
He’s actually paired up with a

140
00:04:51.930 –> 00:04:54.089
Speaker:
couple of YouTubers, uh, Trey

141
00:04:54.089 –> 00:04:56.810
Speaker:
and Ronnie from narc Divers and

142
00:04:56.810 –> 00:04:59.050
Speaker:
Brothers Underwater Recovery,

143
00:04:59.050 –> 00:05:00.110
Speaker:
and they’re going to be

144
00:05:00.110 –> 00:05:01.269
Speaker:
conducting some searches in the

145
00:05:01.269 –> 00:05:02.709
Speaker:
next few weeks in local

146
00:05:02.709 –> 00:05:03.189
Speaker:
waterways.

147
00:05:03.189 –> 00:05:05.509
Speaker:
They’ve gotten permission to do
some searches.

148
00:05:05.509 –> 00:05:06.629
Speaker:
And later in the episode, I

149
00:05:06.629 –> 00:05:07.670
Speaker:
actually have a conversation

150
00:05:07.670 –> 00:05:09.509
Speaker:
with Rick White and talk about

151
00:05:09.509 –> 00:05:11.389
Speaker:
his efforts to hopefully bring

152
00:05:11.389 –> 00:05:13.069
Speaker:
some answers to the family

153
00:05:13.069 –> 00:05:15.509
Speaker:
because, um, the family’s not

154
00:05:15.509 –> 00:05:16.790
Speaker:
feeling like there’s a lot being

155
00:05:16.790 –> 00:05:17.269
Speaker:
done here.

156
00:05:17.269 –> 00:05:20.990
Speaker:
So hopefully Rick can, along
with Trey and Ronnie and the

157
00:05:20.990 –> 00:05:24.829
Speaker:
team can maybe find some answers
or at least cross off some

158
00:05:24.829 –> 00:05:27.430
Speaker:
possibilities as far as if they
if they don’t find anything in

159
00:05:27.430 –> 00:05:30.430
Speaker:
these waterways, maybe they can
at least provide some peace for

160
00:05:30.430 –> 00:05:33.069
Speaker:
the family knowing that those
have been covered.

161
00:05:33.069 –> 00:05:35.589
Speaker:
So that interview is coming up
later in this episode.

162
00:05:35.589 –> 00:05:39.829
Speaker:
But first, I wanted to share a
clip from a YouTuber called

163
00:05:39.829 –> 00:05:41.670
Speaker:
Juju’s Rabbit Hole.

164
00:05:41.670 –> 00:05:46.829
Speaker:
She interviewed Frankie Lee, who
is Andi’s cousin recently, and

165
00:05:46.829 –> 00:05:51.189
Speaker:
Frankie talks a bit about Andi
and about the situation.

166
00:05:51.189 –> 00:05:53.149
Speaker:
And she also has a revelation

167
00:05:53.149 –> 00:05:54.430
Speaker:
about kind of a strange

168
00:05:54.430 –> 00:05:56.079
Speaker:
situation with Andi’s

169
00:05:56.079 –> 00:05:58.410
Speaker:
Grandparents house, about a

170
00:05:58.410 –> 00:05:59.730
Speaker:
neighbor who came over and

171
00:05:59.730 –> 00:06:01.449
Speaker:
obtained some ring camera

172
00:06:01.449 –> 00:06:03.329
Speaker:
footage, and I wanted to share

173
00:06:03.329 –> 00:06:03.569
Speaker:
that.

174
00:06:03.569 –> 00:06:05.009
Speaker:
So here’s a clip from the

175
00:06:05.009 –> 00:06:06.689
Speaker:
interview with Juju’s Rabbit

176
00:06:06.689 –> 00:06:07.009
Speaker:
hole.

177
00:06:07.009 –> 00:06:10.569
Speaker:
And again, this is Frankie Lee,
Andi’s cousin.

178
00:06:11.649 –> 00:06:13.170
Speaker:
A lot of people are saying that

179
00:06:13.170 –> 00:06:17.089
Speaker:
Andi just she ran off or she’s

180
00:06:17.089 –> 00:06:19.750
Speaker:
still alive, but she’s just like

181
00:06:19.750 –> 00:06:21.290
Speaker:
in hiding.

182
00:06:21.290 –> 00:06:23.689
Speaker:
But that’s not Andi.

183
00:06:23.689 –> 00:06:28.649
Speaker:
Andi’s not going to leave her
sister and not explain to her

184
00:06:28.649 –> 00:06:33.009
Speaker:
why she was going into hiding,
whatever the case may be, and

185
00:06:33.009 –> 00:06:37.769
Speaker:
knowing that her mom was coming
to get her in two weeks, Andi

186
00:06:37.769 –> 00:06:39.689
Speaker:
would have did anything.

187
00:06:39.689 –> 00:06:40.689
Speaker:
Nothing in the world could have

188
00:06:40.689 –> 00:06:42.050
Speaker:
stopped Andi to get into her

189
00:06:42.050 –> 00:06:42.610
Speaker:
mom.

190
00:06:42.610 –> 00:06:44.370
Speaker:
Nothing.

191
00:06:44.370 –> 00:06:47.129
Speaker:
We honestly, because of that

192
00:06:47.129 –> 00:06:50.290
Speaker:
fact, we know something bad has

193
00:06:50.290 –> 00:06:54.089
Speaker:
happened to Andi because she

194
00:06:54.089 –> 00:06:55.569
Speaker:
knew her mom was coming to get

195
00:06:55.569 –> 00:06:57.990
Speaker:
her in two weeks, and Andi

196
00:06:57.990 –> 00:06:59.230
Speaker:
wouldn’t have missed that for

197
00:06:59.230 –> 00:07:00.029
Speaker:
the world.

198
00:07:01.509 –> 00:07:04.430
Speaker:
She was in active addiction.

199
00:07:04.430 –> 00:07:10.430
Speaker:
But the reason why she wanted to
come to Texas was her mom, was

200
00:07:10.430 –> 00:07:13.750
Speaker:
because she was ready to change
her life around.

201
00:07:13.750 –> 00:07:16.509
Speaker:
She didn’t want to be that
person anymore.

202
00:07:16.509 –> 00:07:20.750
Speaker:
She was telling her mom how she
didn’t want to wake up and be

203
00:07:20.750 –> 00:07:22.430
Speaker:
that person anymore.

204
00:07:22.430 –> 00:07:24.310
Speaker:
Andi didn’t want to change.

205
00:07:24.310 –> 00:07:27.110
Speaker:
She just didn’t have the chance
to do it.

206
00:07:27.110 –> 00:07:30.149
Speaker:
And EPD is just making it seem

207
00:07:30.149 –> 00:07:34.110
Speaker:
like she overdosed and that’s

208
00:07:34.110 –> 00:07:34.550
Speaker:
it.

209
00:07:34.550 –> 00:07:35.829
Speaker:
That’s what they keep telling my

210
00:07:35.829 –> 00:07:37.410
Speaker:
aunt that we keep telling her

211
00:07:37.410 –> 00:07:41.189
Speaker:
that she overdosed, and that’s

212
00:07:41.189 –> 00:07:42.550
Speaker:
basically the end of it for

213
00:07:42.550 –> 00:07:43.389
Speaker:
them.

214
00:07:43.389 –> 00:07:48.810
Speaker:
But where we we don’t accept
that because how can you say

215
00:07:48.810 –> 00:07:53.230
Speaker:
that she overdosed and you don’t
have proof that she overdosed?

216
00:07:53.230 –> 00:07:56.300
Speaker:
We have, um, I’m in Texas and my

217
00:07:56.300 –> 00:07:57.920
Speaker:
aunt moved back to Indiana to

218
00:07:57.920 –> 00:07:59.139
Speaker:
find Andi.

219
00:07:59.139 –> 00:08:05.660
Speaker:
Um, I grew up with Andi, so it’s
not like we’re distant cousins.

220
00:08:05.660 –> 00:08:06.500
Speaker:
Nothing like that.

221
00:08:06.500 –> 00:08:09.740
Speaker:
Like we are.

222
00:08:09.740 –> 00:08:14.019
Speaker:
We were getting tired of not
getting answers for her.

223
00:08:14.019 –> 00:08:18.939
Speaker:
Um, so me, my cousin Lilly.

224
00:08:18.939 –> 00:08:25.139
Speaker:
Lilly made a page for him, and
we honestly, we didn’t think

225
00:08:25.139 –> 00:08:30.220
Speaker:
that it was going to get that
much traffic, but it’s been

226
00:08:30.220 –> 00:08:32.620
Speaker:
doing so well.

227
00:08:32.620 –> 00:08:35.059
Speaker:
We’ve set up search parties.

228
00:08:35.059 –> 00:08:38.740
Speaker:
My aunt is working with a search
and rescue team right now.

229
00:08:38.740 –> 00:08:43.340
Speaker:
That’s the only reason why the
search is that you were that she

230
00:08:43.340 –> 00:08:48.059
Speaker:
was doing have been put on hold
because the gentleman that’s

231
00:08:48.059 –> 00:08:52.620
Speaker:
going to help us, he said that
with all the foot traffic out

232
00:08:52.620 –> 00:08:55.559
Speaker:
there in the ground already.

233
00:08:55.559 –> 00:09:00.519
Speaker:
That’ll make it harder for them
to try to track Andi down.

234
00:09:00.519 –> 00:09:05.480
Speaker:
Is there any video of her
leaving?

235
00:09:05.480 –> 00:09:08.080
Speaker:
I mean, are there any ring
cameras in the area?

236
00:09:08.080 –> 00:09:13.799
Speaker:
Is there their vehicle, their
Nana, does have a ring camera.

237
00:09:13.799 –> 00:09:16.240
Speaker:
Her grandparents house that she
left from.

238
00:09:16.240 –> 00:09:19.080
Speaker:
But honestly, because I don’t

239
00:09:19.080 –> 00:09:20.799
Speaker:
want to be disrespectful, but

240
00:09:20.799 –> 00:09:23.960
Speaker:
honestly, I don’t know why that

241
00:09:23.960 –> 00:09:28.879
Speaker:
ring cam footage was not turned

242
00:09:28.879 –> 00:09:30.279
Speaker:
in.

243
00:09:30.279 –> 00:09:31.799
Speaker:
It wasn’t turned in.

244
00:09:31.799 –> 00:09:32.919
Speaker:
It was not turned in.

245
00:09:32.919 –> 00:09:35.320
Speaker:
And it has already been recorded
over.

246
00:09:35.320 –> 00:09:39.519
Speaker:
So that’s that video footage is
gone.

247
00:09:40.919 –> 00:09:43.519
Speaker:
This is the boyfriend’s
grandmother?

248
00:09:43.519 –> 00:09:45.399
Speaker:
No. Andi’s grandmother.

249
00:09:46.840 –> 00:09:49.080
Speaker:
Did anybody look at it?

250
00:09:49.080 –> 00:09:52.100
Speaker:
Um, I was told that there was a

251
00:09:52.100 –> 00:09:54.539
Speaker:
young lady that came over there

252
00:09:54.539 –> 00:09:56.500
Speaker:
and she took some screenshots of

253
00:09:56.500 –> 00:09:58.179
Speaker:
the video.

254
00:09:58.179 –> 00:10:03.700
Speaker:
Um, but the more we dug into
Andi’s case, we honestly feel

255
00:10:03.700 –> 00:10:10.000
Speaker:
like in my, my aunt will say,
well, she had a very uneasy

256
00:10:10.000 –> 00:10:12.940
Speaker:
feeling about this girl.

257
00:10:12.940 –> 00:10:17.779
Speaker:
Um, she never spoke to her, but
my aunt, she did come over to

258
00:10:17.779 –> 00:10:21.340
Speaker:
the grandparents house one time
when my aunt was there.

259
00:10:21.340 –> 00:10:23.980
Speaker:
My aunt said, like she walked in
the house.

260
00:10:23.980 –> 00:10:26.620
Speaker:
It was just this energy.

261
00:10:26.620 –> 00:10:28.299
Speaker:
Well, the girl was carrying with

262
00:10:28.299 –> 00:10:29.659
Speaker:
her and it was not sitting with

263
00:10:29.659 –> 00:10:30.100
Speaker:
my aunt.

264
00:10:30.100 –> 00:10:33.100
Speaker:
Well, and the more that she dug

265
00:10:33.100 –> 00:10:34.779
Speaker:
and dug and dug into Andi’s

266
00:10:34.779 –> 00:10:40.039
Speaker:
case, um, she did get some, some

267
00:10:40.039 –> 00:10:43.259
Speaker:
proof that that girl could

268
00:10:43.259 –> 00:10:44.860
Speaker:
possibly have something to do

269
00:10:44.860 –> 00:10:46.419
Speaker:
with Andi’s disappearance as

270
00:10:46.419 –> 00:10:47.460
Speaker:
well.

271
00:10:47.460 –> 00:10:49.700
Speaker:
So this was supposed to be a
friend of hers?

272
00:10:49.700 –> 00:10:50.059
Speaker:
Yeah.

273
00:10:50.059 –> 00:10:51.980
Speaker:
She was supposed to be a friend.

274
00:10:51.980 –> 00:10:56.799
Speaker:
Um, well, she claims herself as
a friend, but, um, you know, her

275
00:10:56.799 –> 00:10:57.919
Speaker:
and Andi were only.

276
00:10:57.919 –> 00:11:01.360
Speaker:
They had only met two weeks
prior to Andi going missing.

277
00:11:02.440 –> 00:11:07.559
Speaker:
I’ve been told that we can’t say
names of any of these people.

278
00:11:07.559 –> 00:11:08.480
Speaker:
Yes, ma’am.

279
00:11:08.480 –> 00:11:14.240
Speaker:
Okay, so the the friends, was

280
00:11:14.240 –> 00:11:19.519
Speaker:
she also involved in the illegal

281
00:11:19.519 –> 00:11:21.320
Speaker:
substances?

282
00:11:21.320 –> 00:11:23.639
Speaker:
She says because we.

283
00:11:23.639 –> 00:11:25.720
Speaker:
I did have some words with her.

284
00:11:25.720 –> 00:11:31.580
Speaker:
Um, she says that she wasn’t,
but I had people send me

285
00:11:31.580 –> 00:11:35.480
Speaker:
screenshots of like her
affidavits and stuff where she’s

286
00:11:35.480 –> 00:11:40.960
Speaker:
been to jail for the same stuff,
substance that Andi was dealing

287
00:11:40.960 –> 00:11:42.200
Speaker:
with as well.

288
00:11:42.200 –> 00:11:45.159
Speaker:
And it was, it was the M word,
right?

289
00:11:45.159 –> 00:11:46.320
Speaker:
Yes.

290
00:11:46.320 –> 00:11:47.720
Speaker:
Okay.

291
00:11:47.720 –> 00:11:52.179
Speaker:
Now what the the dots and I’m
trying to connect here is, did

292
00:11:52.179 –> 00:11:57.139
Speaker:
Andi you meet this girl through
her boyfriend and the people at

293
00:11:57.139 –> 00:11:58.500
Speaker:
the other house.

294
00:11:58.500 –> 00:12:02.379
Speaker:
That part I am not one hundred
percent sure on.

295
00:12:02.379 –> 00:12:07.139
Speaker:
Um, I do know that the this girl
was.

296
00:12:07.139 –> 00:12:08.460
Speaker:
I don’t know if she still lives

297
00:12:08.460 –> 00:12:10.659
Speaker:
there, but I do know she was a

298
00:12:10.659 –> 00:12:12.740
Speaker:
neighbor at her grandparents

299
00:12:12.740 –> 00:12:13.019
Speaker:
house.

300
00:12:13.019 –> 00:12:14.580
Speaker:
Like she literally lived right

301
00:12:14.580 –> 00:12:15.960
Speaker:
next door to Andi’s

302
00:12:15.960 –> 00:12:17.860
Speaker:
grandparents.

303
00:12:17.860 –> 00:12:19.539
Speaker:
And Andi went missing.

304
00:12:19.539 –> 00:12:24.700
Speaker:
It was just, it was just really
weird that you went over there

305
00:12:24.700 –> 00:12:29.340
Speaker:
and took screenshots of this
ring camera footage, and they

306
00:12:29.340 –> 00:12:30.539
Speaker:
didn’t send it to anybody.

307
00:12:30.539 –> 00:12:31.860
Speaker:
You didn’t send it to her
mother.

308
00:12:31.860 –> 00:12:33.820
Speaker:
You didn’t send it to EPD.

309
00:12:33.820 –> 00:12:38.740
Speaker:
Has anybody gone to get this
chick’s screenshots from her?

310
00:12:38.740 –> 00:12:42.779
Speaker:
Um, as far as I know, I’m not
one hundred percent sure.

311
00:12:42.779 –> 00:12:47.539
Speaker:
I know my aunt does not talk to
the girl at all.

312
00:12:47.539 –> 00:12:51.980
Speaker:
Um, but I don’t know if my aunt
ever did get those screenshots,

313
00:12:51.980 –> 00:12:55.129
Speaker:
but as far as I know, she.

314
00:12:55.129 –> 00:12:58.289
Speaker:
From my understanding, she did
not share the screenshots with

315
00:12:58.289 –> 00:13:01.649
Speaker:
anybody and she left.

316
00:13:01.649 –> 00:13:03.690
Speaker:
I don’t know, it was just really
weird.

317
00:13:03.690 –> 00:13:09.929
Speaker:
She left a, um, a big old binder
full of these notes and they

318
00:13:09.929 –> 00:13:12.250
Speaker:
were all about Andi.

319
00:13:12.250 –> 00:13:15.409
Speaker:
It was a big binder she left at
the grandparents house, and she

320
00:13:15.409 –> 00:13:20.210
Speaker:
was up there and take
screenshots of the video camera.

321
00:13:20.210 –> 00:13:23.289
Speaker:
And, um, my aunt had somebody

322
00:13:23.289 –> 00:13:25.289
Speaker:
else go over there and speak to

323
00:13:25.289 –> 00:13:26.649
Speaker:
the grandparents.

324
00:13:26.649 –> 00:13:32.529
Speaker:
And um, she told that woman that

325
00:13:32.529 –> 00:13:34.169
Speaker:
the binder was left from another

326
00:13:34.169 –> 00:13:34.690
Speaker:
girl.

327
00:13:34.690 –> 00:13:38.730
Speaker:
So she took the binder and they
found a whole bunch of notes

328
00:13:38.730 –> 00:13:43.529
Speaker:
about these people that are
linked to A and B, and, but she

329
00:13:43.529 –> 00:13:46.289
Speaker:
didn’t share any of that
information with her mom.

330
00:13:46.289 –> 00:13:48.409
Speaker:
She didn’t call the tip line.

331
00:13:48.409 –> 00:13:49.649
Speaker:
She didn’t do any of that.

332
00:13:49.649 –> 00:13:52.830
Speaker:
So it was really, really weird.

333
00:13:52.830 –> 00:13:54.870
Speaker:
I mean, this is what I mean.

334
00:13:54.870 –> 00:13:58.830
Speaker:
Who would go over to the
family’s house of a missing

335
00:13:58.830 –> 00:14:02.070
Speaker:
person and say, can I see your
ring cam and then take

336
00:14:02.070 –> 00:14:03.710
Speaker:
screenshots of it?

337
00:14:03.710 –> 00:14:09.149
Speaker:
Give them a binder full of notes
about Andi and then poof!

338
00:14:09.149 –> 00:14:09.870
Speaker:
Yep.

339
00:14:09.870 –> 00:14:11.590
Speaker:
And she’s only known her two
weeks.

340
00:14:11.590 –> 00:14:11.909
Speaker:
Yep.

341
00:14:11.909 –> 00:14:13.950
Speaker:
She know her for two weeks.

342
00:14:13.950 –> 00:14:15.070
Speaker:
They had just met.

343
00:14:15.070 –> 00:14:16.470
Speaker:
It was not like they were

344
00:14:16.470 –> 00:14:18.389
Speaker:
friends before and then

345
00:14:18.389 –> 00:14:20.389
Speaker:
rekindled or whatever the case

346
00:14:20.389 –> 00:14:20.830
Speaker:
may be.

347
00:14:20.830 –> 00:14:22.990
Speaker:
Like she had just met Andi two

348
00:14:22.990 –> 00:14:24.490
Speaker:
weeks prior to her going

349
00:14:24.490 –> 00:14:25.350
Speaker:
missing.

350
00:14:25.350 –> 00:14:29.750
Speaker:
Did she live next door long or
did they just move in?

351
00:14:29.750 –> 00:14:34.509
Speaker:
Um, I’m not one hundred percent
sure on that, but, um, I feel

352
00:14:34.509 –> 00:14:39.470
Speaker:
like they had been there for a
few months, so not long.

353
00:14:39.470 –> 00:14:40.110
Speaker:
Yeah.

354
00:14:40.110 –> 00:14:44.230
Speaker:
Not like they lived next door
for a year or two or whatever.

355
00:14:44.230 –> 00:14:44.470
Speaker:
Yeah.

356
00:14:44.470 –> 00:14:47.870
Speaker:
Because her and Andi would have
already crossed paths by then

357
00:14:47.870 –> 00:14:52.649
Speaker:
because Andi is very she’s a
very outgoing girl.

358
00:14:52.649 –> 00:14:56.490
Speaker:
She is a ball of fun to be
around.

359
00:14:56.490 –> 00:14:58.769
Speaker:
She’s the goofiest person I
know.

360
00:15:00.090 –> 00:15:02.370
Speaker:
And I mean, she.

361
00:15:02.370 –> 00:15:06.529
Speaker:
She is a person who could easily
vibe with.

362
00:15:06.529 –> 00:15:11.610
Speaker:
She’s she’s very humble and he
is very humble.

363
00:15:12.929 –> 00:15:15.289
Speaker:
Now, do you think that.

364
00:15:15.289 –> 00:15:18.929
Speaker:
Okay, the let’s go back to the
binder for a minute.

365
00:15:18.929 –> 00:15:23.330
Speaker:
What can you tell me what kind
of stuff is in the binder?

366
00:15:23.330 –> 00:15:27.370
Speaker:
Um, it was, it was posted on
Facebook, but my aunt wanted it

367
00:15:27.370 –> 00:15:29.649
Speaker:
taken down from Andi’s page.

368
00:15:29.649 –> 00:15:30.769
Speaker:
We did take a lot of the

369
00:15:30.769 –> 00:15:32.269
Speaker:
negative stuff off of Andi’s

370
00:15:32.269 –> 00:15:33.090
Speaker:
page.

371
00:15:33.090 –> 00:15:39.570
Speaker:
Um, but the binder, um, it was
just like it said it would have

372
00:15:39.570 –> 00:15:43.889
Speaker:
like the names of the people
that might be involved and then

373
00:15:43.889 –> 00:15:47.690
Speaker:
it would have like their
addresses, their phone numbers.

374
00:15:47.690 –> 00:15:49.649
Speaker:
Um, wait, the people that might

375
00:15:49.649 –> 00:15:50.990
Speaker:
be involved with Andi’s

376
00:15:50.990 –> 00:15:51.870
Speaker:
disappearance.

377
00:15:51.870 –> 00:15:52.590
Speaker:
Yes.

378
00:15:54.350 –> 00:15:55.750
Speaker:
This is blowing my mind.

379
00:15:55.750 –> 00:15:56.669
Speaker:
Yeah.

380
00:15:56.669 –> 00:16:00.870
Speaker:
So somebody took the time to
write down what they think they

381
00:16:00.870 –> 00:16:03.190
Speaker:
know about Andi’s disappearance.

382
00:16:03.190 –> 00:16:05.470
Speaker:
Gave it to this brand new friend
of two weeks.

383
00:16:05.470 –> 00:16:08.629
Speaker:
And the brand new friend of two
weeks gave it to grandma.

384
00:16:08.629 –> 00:16:11.309
Speaker:
Well, no. All of these notes.

385
00:16:11.309 –> 00:16:12.909
Speaker:
The brand new friend from the

386
00:16:12.909 –> 00:16:14.350
Speaker:
girl that Andi met two weeks

387
00:16:14.350 –> 00:16:15.509
Speaker:
prior.

388
00:16:15.509 –> 00:16:17.269
Speaker:
Those were her notes that she

389
00:16:17.269 –> 00:16:18.350
Speaker:
had made on Andi’s

390
00:16:18.350 –> 00:16:20.309
Speaker:
disappearance.

391
00:16:20.309 –> 00:16:21.990
Speaker:
And she was at the grandparents

392
00:16:21.990 –> 00:16:23.549
Speaker:
house looking at the ring camera

393
00:16:23.549 –> 00:16:24.110
Speaker:
footage.

394
00:16:24.110 –> 00:16:25.750
Speaker:
And she accidentally left that

395
00:16:25.750 –> 00:16:27.190
Speaker:
binder at the grandparents

396
00:16:27.190 –> 00:16:27.870
Speaker:
house.

397
00:16:29.309 –> 00:16:31.070
Speaker:
So when this other lady goes

398
00:16:31.070 –> 00:16:33.149
Speaker:
over there to go see if she can

399
00:16:33.149 –> 00:16:35.509
Speaker:
pull up the ring camera footage

400
00:16:35.509 –> 00:16:37.590
Speaker:
and the grandmother is telling

401
00:16:37.590 –> 00:16:39.909
Speaker:
her it’s on, she this girl

402
00:16:39.909 –> 00:16:41.549
Speaker:
already came over here and took

403
00:16:41.549 –> 00:16:43.110
Speaker:
screenshots.

404
00:16:43.110 –> 00:16:45.629
Speaker:
It’s already been recorded over.

405
00:16:45.629 –> 00:16:49.309
Speaker:
And then she was like, well, she
left this binder here and she

406
00:16:49.309 –> 00:16:52.700
Speaker:
gave the binder to the lady that
that was there that day.

407
00:16:52.700 –> 00:16:55.419
Speaker:
And that lady took the binder
straight to my aunt.

408
00:16:56.700 –> 00:16:59.500
Speaker:
And so Andi’s mom has it now?

409
00:16:59.500 –> 00:17:00.299
Speaker:
Yes.

410
00:17:00.299 –> 00:17:04.980
Speaker:
Well, she probably gave it to
the detectives, but the last

411
00:17:04.980 –> 00:17:07.619
Speaker:
one, she told me about it, she
did have the binder.

412
00:17:09.259 –> 00:17:10.859
Speaker:
Okay.

413
00:17:10.859 –> 00:17:12.940
Speaker:
And again, that was Frankie Lee,

414
00:17:12.940 –> 00:17:15.019
Speaker:
Andi’s cousin, with some

415
00:17:15.019 –> 00:17:16.859
Speaker:
interesting information about

416
00:17:16.859 –> 00:17:18.880
Speaker:
this neighbor of Andi’s

417
00:17:18.880 –> 00:17:21.519
Speaker:
grandparents who has this

418
00:17:21.519 –> 00:17:23.460
Speaker:
unusual interest in that ring

419
00:17:23.460 –> 00:17:24.259
Speaker:
camera footage.

420
00:17:24.259 –> 00:17:26.660
Speaker:
And and that binder she left
behind.

421
00:17:26.660 –> 00:17:27.059
Speaker:
Very.

422
00:17:27.059 –> 00:17:28.980
Speaker:
All very strange.

423
00:17:28.980 –> 00:17:32.539
Speaker:
There’s no shortage of people of
interest in this case.

424
00:17:32.539 –> 00:17:34.960
Speaker:
And that Facebook page, where’s

425
00:17:34.960 –> 00:17:37.299
Speaker:
Andi kind of outlines a lot of

426
00:17:37.299 –> 00:17:39.539
Speaker:
those theories and people of

427
00:17:39.539 –> 00:17:41.299
Speaker:
interest, um, many of which

428
00:17:41.299 –> 00:17:43.039
Speaker:
can’t be, you know, named out

429
00:17:43.039 –> 00:17:44.220
Speaker:
outright since they’re not

430
00:17:44.220 –> 00:17:45.380
Speaker:
officially suspects.

431
00:17:45.380 –> 00:17:49.799
Speaker:
But there are definitely some
people of interest in this case.

432
00:17:49.799 –> 00:17:52.799
Speaker:
and I just I talked to Rick
White.

433
00:17:52.799 –> 00:17:54.880
Speaker:
He’s the Union County emergency

434
00:17:54.880 –> 00:17:56.160
Speaker:
management director, and he also

435
00:17:56.160 –> 00:17:57.660
Speaker:
has a TikTok called Front Porch

436
00:17:57.660 –> 00:17:58.680
Speaker:
America.

437
00:17:58.680 –> 00:18:01.000
Speaker:
And like I said earlier, he’s
paired up with a couple of

438
00:18:01.000 –> 00:18:04.440
Speaker:
YouTubers, Trey and Ronnie, from
narc to Divers and Brothers

439
00:18:04.440 –> 00:18:08.319
Speaker:
Underwater Recovery to do some
sonar searches in the area here

440
00:18:08.319 –> 00:18:10.680
Speaker:
in the upcoming weeks.

441
00:18:10.680 –> 00:18:13.359
Speaker:
And here’s my interview with
Rick, and he’s got some

442
00:18:13.359 –> 00:18:16.400
Speaker:
interesting information on on
their upcoming search and also

443
00:18:16.400 –> 00:18:19.640
Speaker:
some of his theories on, on
what’s actually going on in this

444
00:18:19.640 –> 00:18:22.759
Speaker:
case, and maybe why things
aren’t going as fast as as we’d

445
00:18:22.759 –> 00:18:23.920
Speaker:
hoped they would.

446
00:18:23.920 –> 00:18:25.920
Speaker:
So this is my conversation with
Rick.

447
00:18:27.440 –> 00:18:27.960
Speaker:
Yeah.

448
00:18:27.960 –> 00:18:30.160
Speaker:
So let me tell you how I kind of
got involved.

449
00:18:30.160 –> 00:18:31.319
Speaker:
And it’s kind of weird.

450
00:18:31.319 –> 00:18:33.839
Speaker:
So I’m actually the emergency
management director here in

451
00:18:33.839 –> 00:18:38.799
Speaker:
Union County, um, across the
river here in Kentucky.

452
00:18:38.799 –> 00:18:41.400
Speaker:
And we have a horse and rescue
search team.

453
00:18:41.400 –> 00:18:46.140
Speaker:
So somehow our team lead, but

454
00:18:46.140 –> 00:18:47.420
Speaker:
somebody reached out to her,

455
00:18:47.420 –> 00:18:48.680
Speaker:
they were going to go to

456
00:18:48.680 –> 00:18:50.099
Speaker:
Henderson and search the

457
00:18:50.099 –> 00:18:51.579
Speaker:
sloughs.

458
00:18:51.579 –> 00:18:54.619
Speaker:
And she called me and she was
like, hey, do we even do this?

459
00:18:54.619 –> 00:18:55.640
Speaker:
I was like, well, you know,

460
00:18:55.640 –> 00:18:56.579
Speaker:
that’s actually Henderson

461
00:18:56.579 –> 00:18:57.059
Speaker:
County.

462
00:18:57.059 –> 00:18:58.779
Speaker:
So you got to get permission
from them.

463
00:18:58.779 –> 00:19:00.819
Speaker:
We don’t want to, you know, we
don’t want to cross territories

464
00:19:00.819 –> 00:19:02.339
Speaker:
and get anybody mad at us.

465
00:19:02.339 –> 00:19:04.140
Speaker:
So she’s like, well, here, I’ll
just give you the phone number.

466
00:19:04.140 –> 00:19:06.019
Speaker:
And it ended up being Andi’s
mom.

467
00:19:06.019 –> 00:19:06.940
Speaker:
So I called her and I was

468
00:19:06.940 –> 00:19:07.920
Speaker:
talking to her about it and she

469
00:19:07.920 –> 00:19:08.980
Speaker:
was like, yeah, there’s supposed

470
00:19:08.980 –> 00:19:10.619
Speaker:
to be a black garbage bag, two

471
00:19:10.619 –> 00:19:11.900
Speaker:
black garbage bags, and a red

472
00:19:11.900 –> 00:19:12.980
Speaker:
suitcase.

473
00:19:12.980 –> 00:19:14.420
Speaker:
I said, there now she’s like, oh

474
00:19:14.420 –> 00:19:15.579
Speaker:
no, honey, that was from last

475
00:19:15.579 –> 00:19:16.299
Speaker:
year.

476
00:19:16.299 –> 00:19:18.799
Speaker:
So our search and rescue person

477
00:19:18.799 –> 00:19:19.839
Speaker:
thought she was talking about

478
00:19:19.839 –> 00:19:21.220
Speaker:
here recently.

479
00:19:21.220 –> 00:19:22.460
Speaker:
So then I got curious about it

480
00:19:22.460 –> 00:19:23.420
Speaker:
and I was just listening to her

481
00:19:23.420 –> 00:19:24.740
Speaker:
mom talk, and she filled me in

482
00:19:24.740 –> 00:19:25.460
Speaker:
on everything.

483
00:19:25.460 –> 00:19:28.380
Speaker:
And, and, you know, um, she,
they don’t feel like the police

484
00:19:28.380 –> 00:19:31.500
Speaker:
or law enforcement is doing much
about the case at all.

485
00:19:31.500 –> 00:19:33.500
Speaker:
Um, which, you know, I work

486
00:19:33.500 –> 00:19:34.539
Speaker:
pretty close with the sheriff’s

487
00:19:34.539 –> 00:19:35.779
Speaker:
department here in Union County

488
00:19:35.779 –> 00:19:36.819
Speaker:
and I understand how their

489
00:19:36.819 –> 00:19:37.619
Speaker:
investigations go.

490
00:19:37.619 –> 00:19:38.819
Speaker:
If it’s an open investigation,

491
00:19:38.819 –> 00:19:39.619
Speaker:
they’re not going to release a

492
00:19:39.619 –> 00:19:40.779
Speaker:
lot of information even to the

493
00:19:40.779 –> 00:19:41.579
Speaker:
family.

494
00:19:41.579 –> 00:19:45.700
Speaker:
And supposedly, I guess they
turned it over to the FBI.

495
00:19:45.700 –> 00:19:48.400
Speaker:
So if that’s the case, it’s even
harder to get information

496
00:19:48.400 –> 00:19:51.900
Speaker:
because they’re like so
secretive about everything,

497
00:19:51.900 –> 00:19:53.359
Speaker:
especially on an open case.

498
00:19:53.359 –> 00:19:56.000
Speaker:
I doubt they want to tip off who
might be a suspect.

499
00:19:56.000 –> 00:19:58.079
Speaker:
And you know, that person’s
going to dart, you know, if they

500
00:19:58.079 –> 00:20:00.160
Speaker:
find out that they’re on that
list, that’s something else.

501
00:20:00.160 –> 00:20:01.559
Speaker:
You know, I haven’t dude.

502
00:20:01.559 –> 00:20:03.240
Speaker:
I woke up the next morning after

503
00:20:03.240 –> 00:20:04.720
Speaker:
talking to her mom with eight

504
00:20:04.720 –> 00:20:06.000
Speaker:
hundred and thirty three text

505
00:20:06.000 –> 00:20:06.440
Speaker:
messages.

506
00:20:06.440 –> 00:20:07.480
Speaker:
Oh, wow.

507
00:20:07.480 –> 00:20:10.240
Speaker:
With every bit, every lead that
she has.

508
00:20:10.240 –> 00:20:13.039
Speaker:
And she continues, like sends it
to me all the time.

509
00:20:13.039 –> 00:20:17.880
Speaker:
Uh, so any like voice recordings
and, uh, a video and I mean just

510
00:20:17.880 –> 00:20:21.259
Speaker:
all kinds of stuff and it, and
it just keeps coming back to

511
00:20:21.259 –> 00:20:22.319
Speaker:
some of the same people.

512
00:20:22.319 –> 00:20:26.400
Speaker:
There’s about six or eight
people that just continuously

513
00:20:26.400 –> 00:20:27.880
Speaker:
comes back to.

514
00:20:27.880 –> 00:20:30.160
Speaker:
So I was like, man, this is,
this is kind of intriguing.

515
00:20:30.160 –> 00:20:32.380
Speaker:
And I’m, they call me a hound

516
00:20:32.380 –> 00:20:34.000
Speaker:
dog anyway, because once I get

517
00:20:34.000 –> 00:20:35.160
Speaker:
into something, I get into it

518
00:20:35.160 –> 00:20:36.000
Speaker:
pretty deep.

519
00:20:36.000 –> 00:20:39.619
Speaker:
So I’ve got some friends that
run sonar and they do, you know,

520
00:20:39.619 –> 00:20:42.480
Speaker:
basically they really just look
for cars in the Ohio River and

521
00:20:42.480 –> 00:20:43.839
Speaker:
stuff like that.

522
00:20:43.839 –> 00:20:45.200
Speaker:
And I’ve got them involved.

523
00:20:45.200 –> 00:20:48.460
Speaker:
And we I finally got permission,
and it was tough to get

524
00:20:48.460 –> 00:20:52.539
Speaker:
permission from some of the
strip mines, the coal companies

525
00:20:52.539 –> 00:20:55.579
Speaker:
that own them, strip mines and,
uh, bluegrass wildlife

526
00:20:55.579 –> 00:20:57.819
Speaker:
management didn’t really want
anybody on there, so I had to

527
00:20:57.819 –> 00:20:59.220
Speaker:
get permission from them.

528
00:20:59.220 –> 00:21:00.059
Speaker:
So that’s where we’re at.

529
00:21:00.059 –> 00:21:05.099
Speaker:
So right now we have I have
obtained permission from Peabody

530
00:21:05.099 –> 00:21:09.579
Speaker:
Coal Company to search all in
any of their waterways.

531
00:21:09.579 –> 00:21:09.940
Speaker:
Okay.

532
00:21:09.940 –> 00:21:10.140
Speaker:
Wow.

533
00:21:10.140 –> 00:21:12.099
Speaker:
That’s probably quite a few too.

534
00:21:12.099 –> 00:21:12.819
Speaker:
And it is.

535
00:21:12.819 –> 00:21:16.339
Speaker:
And there’s a lot of like really
off in the middle of nowhere,

536
00:21:16.339 –> 00:21:18.380
Speaker:
uh, in Oakland City.

537
00:21:18.380 –> 00:21:21.380
Speaker:
And I think Summersville,
somebody had said that there was

538
00:21:21.380 –> 00:21:23.380
Speaker:
supposed to be a search and it
was a new lake.

539
00:21:23.380 –> 00:21:25.980
Speaker:
You guys weren’t able to get
permission to, to search there.

540
00:21:25.980 –> 00:21:26.740
Speaker:
Is that right?

541
00:21:26.740 –> 00:21:30.019
Speaker:
So we were gonna, we were going
to go to that Saturday.

542
00:21:30.019 –> 00:21:32.059
Speaker:
We were going to go to, to, um,

543
00:21:32.059 –> 00:21:34.099
Speaker:
bluegrass and search what they

544
00:21:34.099 –> 00:21:35.859
Speaker:
call the pit there right off the

545
00:21:35.859 –> 00:21:36.819
Speaker:
interstate.

546
00:21:36.819 –> 00:21:39.180
Speaker:
Uh, and then there was a
conservation officer there.

547
00:21:39.180 –> 00:21:40.619
Speaker:
So we, you know, checked in with

548
00:21:40.619 –> 00:21:41.700
Speaker:
him and he’s like, man, he said,

549
00:21:41.700 –> 00:21:42.579
Speaker:
you’re really supposed to have

550
00:21:42.579 –> 00:21:43.779
Speaker:
permission from property owner,

551
00:21:43.779 –> 00:21:44.859
Speaker:
especially since you’re doing

552
00:21:44.859 –> 00:21:45.740
Speaker:
this.

553
00:21:45.740 –> 00:21:46.730
Speaker:
And I was like, well, what if we

554
00:21:46.730 –> 00:21:47.769
Speaker:
just get out there and say we’re

555
00:21:47.769 –> 00:21:48.289
Speaker:
fishing?

556
00:21:48.289 –> 00:21:50.609
Speaker:
They said, well, do you have any
in the license?

557
00:21:50.609 –> 00:21:53.369
Speaker:
No. He’s like, well, I said, so
can we just get out there and

558
00:21:53.369 –> 00:21:54.490
Speaker:
just ride around in the boat?

559
00:21:54.490 –> 00:21:56.049
Speaker:
He’s like, man, I know what
you’re doing.

560
00:21:56.049 –> 00:21:57.890
Speaker:
And he said, and I get it, you
know?

561
00:21:57.890 –> 00:21:59.349
Speaker:
And I told him, man, I know,

562
00:21:59.349 –> 00:22:00.450
Speaker:
trust me, this is what I do for

563
00:22:00.450 –> 00:22:00.930
Speaker:
a living.

564
00:22:00.930 –> 00:22:02.410
Speaker:
And he’s like, oh, so yeah.

565
00:22:02.410 –> 00:22:03.609
Speaker:
So I didn’t want to do anything.

566
00:22:03.609 –> 00:22:06.329
Speaker:
So we couldn’t do that that day.

567
00:22:06.329 –> 00:22:09.769
Speaker:
So we loaded up and we went up
to some, I think it’s

568
00:22:09.769 –> 00:22:12.930
Speaker:
Summersville right before you
get to Oakland City.

569
00:22:12.930 –> 00:22:16.009
Speaker:
And all those pits and stuff out
there.

570
00:22:16.009 –> 00:22:17.890
Speaker:
Uh, is owned by Peabody Coal
Mines.

571
00:22:17.890 –> 00:22:21.049
Speaker:
And we had a bunch of leads
about coal mine pits that she

572
00:22:21.049 –> 00:22:21.970
Speaker:
may have been dropped on.

573
00:22:21.970 –> 00:22:26.049
Speaker:
And some of the suspects or
people of interest have ties to

574
00:22:26.049 –> 00:22:27.890
Speaker:
that area and live in that area.

575
00:22:27.890 –> 00:22:32.529
Speaker:
And there’s two specific bodies
of water that we want to search

576
00:22:32.529 –> 00:22:35.450
Speaker:
that keep popping up and some
leads and tips.

577
00:22:35.450 –> 00:22:38.130
Speaker:
So that’s kind of that’s where
we’re at.

578
00:22:38.130 –> 00:22:40.730
Speaker:
And like I saw that you’re
connecting with like Trey and

579
00:22:40.730 –> 00:22:43.930
Speaker:
Ronnie from narco Divers and
Brothers Underwater recovery.

580
00:22:43.930 –> 00:22:45.700
Speaker:
So I know I believe they did

581
00:22:45.700 –> 00:22:47.630
Speaker:
some searches, uh, earlier this

582
00:22:47.630 –> 00:22:48.789
Speaker:
year in the Ohio River, like

583
00:22:48.789 –> 00:22:50.230
Speaker:
around Posey County, looking for

584
00:22:50.230 –> 00:22:51.910
Speaker:
some, uh, missing man or

585
00:22:51.910 –> 00:22:52.150
Speaker:
something.

586
00:22:52.150 –> 00:22:53.950
Speaker:
And they found some vehicles.

587
00:22:53.950 –> 00:22:54.309
Speaker:
Yeah.

588
00:22:54.309 –> 00:22:56.109
Speaker:
So I, I’ve been working with

589
00:22:56.109 –> 00:22:57.710
Speaker:
them for a little over a year

590
00:22:57.710 –> 00:22:58.069
Speaker:
now.

591
00:22:58.069 –> 00:23:01.230
Speaker:
I actually just accidentally
come across him one day.

592
00:23:01.230 –> 00:23:02.269
Speaker:
He was coming out of the Ohio

593
00:23:02.269 –> 00:23:03.910
Speaker:
River there in Uniontown, just

594
00:23:03.910 –> 00:23:04.950
Speaker:
right outside of Morganfield

595
00:23:04.950 –> 00:23:05.990
Speaker:
where, where I worked and where

596
00:23:05.990 –> 00:23:06.789
Speaker:
I live.

597
00:23:06.789 –> 00:23:08.390
Speaker:
And, uh, we got to talking and

598
00:23:08.390 –> 00:23:10.150
Speaker:
then it just kind of bloomed up

599
00:23:10.150 –> 00:23:10.630
Speaker:
from there.

600
00:23:10.630 –> 00:23:14.190
Speaker:
We started, I started giving him
a bunch of cases that I know

601
00:23:14.190 –> 00:23:17.470
Speaker:
that like people disappeared,
could possibly be in the river.

602
00:23:17.470 –> 00:23:20.910
Speaker:
And that’s what, you know, so
we, we basically teamed up.

603
00:23:20.910 –> 00:23:23.789
Speaker:
I’m basically doing all the
legwork paperwork, and then I

604
00:23:23.789 –> 00:23:27.190
Speaker:
meet up with them and we get in
the boats and we sonar and he’s

605
00:23:27.190 –> 00:23:29.190
Speaker:
a divers and Trey’s a diver.

606
00:23:29.190 –> 00:23:32.170
Speaker:
So I’m a huge fan of like
adventures with purpose and, uh,

607
00:23:32.170 –> 00:23:34.990
Speaker:
you know, exploring with NUG and
I’ve got to check out their

608
00:23:34.990 –> 00:23:36.710
Speaker:
YouTubes and kind of check out
what they do.

609
00:23:36.710 –> 00:23:38.569
Speaker:
But that’s, I love that kind of,

610
00:23:38.569 –> 00:23:39.789
Speaker:
you know, that those searches

611
00:23:39.789 –> 00:23:41.029
Speaker:
because I mean, a lot of times

612
00:23:41.029 –> 00:23:42.190
Speaker:
these people who go missing in a

613
00:23:42.190 –> 00:23:43.750
Speaker:
vehicle, they.

614
00:23:43.750 –> 00:23:45.849
Speaker:
There’s just unless somebody
kind of happens upon it, they’re

615
00:23:45.849 –> 00:23:46.490
Speaker:
not going to be found.

616
00:23:46.490 –> 00:23:47.569
Speaker:
Like, I mean, I know police are

617
00:23:47.569 –> 00:23:49.250
Speaker:
busy enough than, than to be out

618
00:23:49.250 –> 00:23:50.509
Speaker:
there searching, you know,

619
00:23:50.509 –> 00:23:51.490
Speaker:
waterways for that kind of

620
00:23:51.490 –> 00:23:51.769
Speaker:
stuff.

621
00:23:51.769 –> 00:23:52.569
Speaker:
Yeah.

622
00:23:52.569 –> 00:23:55.329
Speaker:
And so, so there’s, you know,
there’s other tips like she’s

623
00:23:55.329 –> 00:23:56.809
Speaker:
buried underneath some concrete.

624
00:23:56.809 –> 00:23:57.769
Speaker:
She’s buried here.

625
00:23:57.769 –> 00:23:58.730
Speaker:
She’s buried there.

626
00:23:58.730 –> 00:24:00.769
Speaker:
So, you know, some of my and if

627
00:24:00.769 –> 00:24:02.170
Speaker:
it’s on private property, if

628
00:24:02.170 –> 00:24:03.210
Speaker:
it’s the people of interest,

629
00:24:03.210 –> 00:24:04.490
Speaker:
there’s no way we’re going to be

630
00:24:04.490 –> 00:24:05.829
Speaker:
able to get on it unless we have

631
00:24:05.829 –> 00:24:08.549
Speaker:
the police give us some kind of

632
00:24:08.549 –> 00:24:09.690
Speaker:
permission.

633
00:24:09.690 –> 00:24:12.009
Speaker:
But which it was probably not
going to happen.

634
00:24:12.009 –> 00:24:14.970
Speaker:
Are the police working with you
like, I mean, are they do you

635
00:24:14.970 –> 00:24:17.890
Speaker:
have like a nod from them to, to
do these searches?

636
00:24:17.890 –> 00:24:19.009
Speaker:
Since we’re an independent,

637
00:24:19.009 –> 00:24:19.970
Speaker:
we’re not affiliated with

638
00:24:19.970 –> 00:24:20.490
Speaker:
anybody.

639
00:24:20.490 –> 00:24:21.970
Speaker:
We don’t have to have
permission.

640
00:24:21.970 –> 00:24:25.430
Speaker:
We don’t have we can go and
search any bodies of water that

641
00:24:25.430 –> 00:24:28.049
Speaker:
if like if you owned a lake and
we wanted to search it for

642
00:24:28.049 –> 00:24:31.009
Speaker:
whatever reason, as long as you
said, yes, we can.

643
00:24:31.009 –> 00:24:35.490
Speaker:
Now, as far as people of
interest owning that may own

644
00:24:35.490 –> 00:24:38.849
Speaker:
some ponds or waterways that
we’re not going to mess with,

645
00:24:38.849 –> 00:24:41.750
Speaker:
that we’re going to let them,
you know, because they may have

646
00:24:41.750 –> 00:24:43.730
Speaker:
that as far as I know.

647
00:24:43.730 –> 00:24:46.190
Speaker:
So the FBI won’t get back with
me on anything.

648
00:24:46.190 –> 00:24:49.490
Speaker:
I’ve called several times, and I
haven’t reached out to

649
00:24:49.490 –> 00:24:52.750
Speaker:
Evansville because they
initially was handling the case.

650
00:24:52.750 –> 00:24:55.109
Speaker:
But, uh, Elaine, uh, Andi’s mom

651
00:24:55.109 –> 00:24:56.150
Speaker:
has reached out to law

652
00:24:56.150 –> 00:24:57.529
Speaker:
enforcement, and they don’t

653
00:24:57.529 –> 00:24:58.390
Speaker:
they’re just they’re not giving

654
00:24:58.390 –> 00:24:59.069
Speaker:
any information.

655
00:24:59.069 –> 00:25:02.329
Speaker:
And I’m trying to, you know,
trying to keep her kind of, uh,

656
00:25:02.329 –> 00:25:05.509
Speaker:
her spirits up, but just look,
it’s an open case.

657
00:25:05.509 –> 00:25:07.069
Speaker:
They’re not going to even
family.

658
00:25:07.069 –> 00:25:08.950
Speaker:
They’re they’re not allowed to.

659
00:25:08.950 –> 00:25:11.509
Speaker:
It’s just, it’s just, uh, one of
those issues.

660
00:25:11.509 –> 00:25:16.230
Speaker:
There are a couple abandoned
houses that I don’t know, some.

661
00:25:16.230 –> 00:25:18.150
Speaker:
I mean, and you, you, you know,
this stuff.

662
00:25:18.150 –> 00:25:21.269
Speaker:
The tips come in and there’s so
many wild tips and so many.

663
00:25:21.269 –> 00:25:21.869
Speaker:
Oh, absolutely.

664
00:25:21.869 –> 00:25:24.829
Speaker:
But the thing about it is, like
I said, there’s six or eight

665
00:25:24.829 –> 00:25:27.829
Speaker:
people that keeps.

666
00:25:27.829 –> 00:25:30.910
Speaker:
It just keeps circling around
back to them.

667
00:25:30.910 –> 00:25:34.109
Speaker:
I’ve watched some of, I think,
uh, Frankie Lee, who was her

668
00:25:34.109 –> 00:25:37.190
Speaker:
Andi’s cousin, was interviewed
on I saw her.

669
00:25:37.190 –> 00:25:39.690
Speaker:
There was like a neighbor who
came over to get some ring

670
00:25:39.690 –> 00:25:42.750
Speaker:
footage and screenshotted the
footage and then took off.

671
00:25:42.750 –> 00:25:45.410
Speaker:
And it’s kind of like there’s
all of these wild cards and it’s

672
00:25:45.410 –> 00:25:47.809
Speaker:
kind of like there’s definitely
something going on.

673
00:25:47.809 –> 00:25:48.690
Speaker:
Yeah.

674
00:25:48.690 –> 00:25:50.490
Speaker:
And that’s what’s the crazy
thing about it.

675
00:25:50.490 –> 00:25:52.750
Speaker:
There’s so many people
supposedly that singer has this

676
00:25:52.750 –> 00:25:55.890
Speaker:
information, but they’re not
tracking any, you know, they’re

677
00:25:55.890 –> 00:25:59.369
Speaker:
not coming up with any new leads
or any, you know, definite.

678
00:25:59.369 –> 00:26:01.730
Speaker:
Yeah, we’ve got a really, you
know, anything like that, which

679
00:26:01.730 –> 00:26:02.930
Speaker:
is what’s weird to me.

680
00:26:02.930 –> 00:26:03.650
Speaker:
You know, there has to be

681
00:26:03.650 –> 00:26:04.509
Speaker:
somebody they’re, they’re,

682
00:26:04.509 –> 00:26:06.049
Speaker:
they’re focusing in on

683
00:26:06.049 –> 00:26:07.369
Speaker:
particularly, but maybe they’re

684
00:26:07.369 –> 00:26:08.369
Speaker:
just keeping that close to the

685
00:26:08.369 –> 00:26:10.009
Speaker:
vest and waiting for somebody to

686
00:26:10.009 –> 00:26:11.329
Speaker:
come forward with a tip or I

687
00:26:11.329 –> 00:26:13.049
Speaker:
don’t know, probably, probably

688
00:26:13.049 –> 00:26:14.410
Speaker:
so.

689
00:26:14.410 –> 00:26:16.690
Speaker:
But man, you would think after
this long.

690
00:26:16.690 –> 00:26:16.930
Speaker:
Yeah.

691
00:26:16.930 –> 00:26:18.089
Speaker:
And you know, they’re tied in

692
00:26:18.089 –> 00:26:19.690
Speaker:
the drug scene and, and, you

693
00:26:19.690 –> 00:26:21.069
Speaker:
know, they say loose lips sink

694
00:26:21.069 –> 00:26:21.650
Speaker:
ships.

695
00:26:21.650 –> 00:26:24.450
Speaker:
And like I said, I, I worked in

696
00:26:24.450 –> 00:26:25.410
Speaker:
the EMA and I work with the

697
00:26:25.410 –> 00:26:26.569
Speaker:
sheriff’s department missing

698
00:26:26.569 –> 00:26:27.089
Speaker:
people.

699
00:26:27.089 –> 00:26:28.970
Speaker:
And, you know, we, we do
searches and stuff.

700
00:26:28.970 –> 00:26:33.210
Speaker:
And we’ve had some instances
where we suspected foul play.

701
00:26:33.210 –> 00:26:35.609
Speaker:
And you get people that’s drunk
or on drugs and they’re going to

702
00:26:35.609 –> 00:26:36.210
Speaker:
talk, you know.

703
00:26:36.210 –> 00:26:36.890
Speaker:
Yeah.

704
00:26:36.890 –> 00:26:40.769
Speaker:
So trying to decipher through
what tips are true and what tips

705
00:26:40.769 –> 00:26:43.079
Speaker:
are not is the hardest thing.

706
00:26:43.079 –> 00:26:46.880
Speaker:
So what we’re focusing on is
every body of water that we can

707
00:26:46.880 –> 00:26:48.279
Speaker:
get permission to sonar on.

708
00:26:48.279 –> 00:26:50.000
Speaker:
We’re going to sonar.

709
00:26:50.000 –> 00:26:51.160
Speaker:
Is it difficult to buy?

710
00:26:51.160 –> 00:26:53.059
Speaker:
I mean, I know from watching,

711
00:26:53.059 –> 00:26:54.079
Speaker:
you know, what I’ve watched as

712
00:26:54.079 –> 00:26:55.400
Speaker:
far as these sonar searches,

713
00:26:55.400 –> 00:26:56.759
Speaker:
it’s hard enough to find like a

714
00:26:56.759 –> 00:26:57.480
Speaker:
vehicle.

715
00:26:57.480 –> 00:26:59.019
Speaker:
I mean, I can’t imagine how

716
00:26:59.019 –> 00:27:00.000
Speaker:
difficult to be to find a

717
00:27:00.000 –> 00:27:00.960
Speaker:
person.

718
00:27:00.960 –> 00:27:01.359
Speaker:
Yeah.

719
00:27:01.359 –> 00:27:03.339
Speaker:
So so there’s key there’s key

720
00:27:03.339 –> 00:27:05.039
Speaker:
things you want you want to look

721
00:27:05.039 –> 00:27:05.680
Speaker:
for.

722
00:27:05.680 –> 00:27:07.960
Speaker:
Obviously any kind of.

723
00:27:07.960 –> 00:27:10.960
Speaker:
And it’s depending on what type
of sonar you have.

724
00:27:10.960 –> 00:27:11.519
Speaker:
Mhm.

725
00:27:11.519 –> 00:27:14.640
Speaker:
You know, like just for instance
Henderson Fire Department, I’m

726
00:27:14.640 –> 00:27:16.039
Speaker:
pretty close to them.

727
00:27:16.039 –> 00:27:20.839
Speaker:
And they have the almost the
exact sonar that Ronnie has now.

728
00:27:20.839 –> 00:27:26.440
Speaker:
And you can, you can tell that
like it’s a body, you know, and

729
00:27:26.440 –> 00:27:29.920
Speaker:
it just, there’s certain shapes
and certain forms that you look

730
00:27:29.920 –> 00:27:32.480
Speaker:
for on a vehicle.

731
00:27:32.480 –> 00:27:37.640
Speaker:
If it’s not been in there very
long, it will kind of give off a

732
00:27:37.640 –> 00:27:41.359
Speaker:
glare like on the windshields if
the glass is still intact.

733
00:27:41.359 –> 00:27:43.019
Speaker:
Uh, if it has been in there for

734
00:27:43.019 –> 00:27:44.779
Speaker:
a long time, it’s kind of sooted

735
00:27:44.779 –> 00:27:45.259
Speaker:
over.

736
00:27:45.259 –> 00:27:47.279
Speaker:
So you can see like, and I can

737
00:27:47.279 –> 00:27:48.339
Speaker:
send you some just like

738
00:27:48.339 –> 00:27:49.700
Speaker:
reference pictures from sonar

739
00:27:49.700 –> 00:27:52.059
Speaker:
images that I have, uh, just

740
00:27:52.059 –> 00:27:53.059
Speaker:
kind of give you a, give you an

741
00:27:53.059 –> 00:27:54.539
Speaker:
idea of what we look for when

742
00:27:54.539 –> 00:27:55.619
Speaker:
we’re looking for cars and

743
00:27:55.619 –> 00:27:56.220
Speaker:
stuff.

744
00:27:56.220 –> 00:27:57.819
Speaker:
But yeah, and training,

745
00:27:57.819 –> 00:27:59.319
Speaker:
obviously training on what to

746
00:27:59.319 –> 00:27:59.819
Speaker:
look for.

747
00:27:59.819 –> 00:28:00.740
Speaker:
And I’ve had a lot of that

748
00:28:00.740 –> 00:28:02.140
Speaker:
training in emergency management

749
00:28:02.140 –> 00:28:03.500
Speaker:
on sonar.

750
00:28:03.500 –> 00:28:09.000
Speaker:
And it’s just those, those key
shapes and forms that you want

751
00:28:09.000 –> 00:28:10.339
Speaker:
to pick up on.

752
00:28:10.339 –> 00:28:12.859
Speaker:
I guess, you know, you hope you
don’t find anything, but I mean,

753
00:28:12.859 –> 00:28:15.220
Speaker:
just knowing that you’re kind of
knocking each body of water out

754
00:28:15.220 –> 00:28:17.819
Speaker:
one at a time kind of gives the
family a little bit of comfort

755
00:28:17.819 –> 00:28:19.980
Speaker:
knowing, okay, she’s not there,
she’s not there.

756
00:28:19.980 –> 00:28:22.059
Speaker:
And, and that’s the biggest
thing.

757
00:28:22.059 –> 00:28:24.500
Speaker:
You know, once, once I started
digging into the case and I

758
00:28:24.500 –> 00:28:28.380
Speaker:
found out that like, there’s no
public activity from law

759
00:28:28.380 –> 00:28:31.460
Speaker:
enforcement going on and just
knowing, just thinking how that

760
00:28:31.460 –> 00:28:34.660
Speaker:
family is, you know, it’s like,
no, they haven’t heard anything

761
00:28:34.660 –> 00:28:37.740
Speaker:
in a year, uh, hardly any
updates or anything like that.

762
00:28:37.740 –> 00:28:39.259
Speaker:
And I thought, man, if we just

763
00:28:39.259 –> 00:28:41.180
Speaker:
at least get out there and

764
00:28:41.180 –> 00:28:43.880
Speaker:
actively search and make our

765
00:28:43.880 –> 00:28:45.599
Speaker:
presence known.

766
00:28:45.599 –> 00:28:47.680
Speaker:
Then I’ve seen it in the past.

767
00:28:47.680 –> 00:28:48.799
Speaker:
That’ll trigger something.

768
00:28:48.799 –> 00:28:51.279
Speaker:
Something some people will start
talking.

769
00:28:51.279 –> 00:28:54.599
Speaker:
Uh. I’m actually waiting to get
threats, honestly.

770
00:28:54.599 –> 00:28:55.880
Speaker:
Uh, you know, I’ve got about

771
00:28:55.880 –> 00:28:56.920
Speaker:
thirty four, zero zero zero

772
00:28:56.920 –> 00:28:59.279
Speaker:
followers on TikTok and and I’m

773
00:28:59.279 –> 00:29:00.599
Speaker:
just waiting and there’s a

774
00:29:00.599 –> 00:29:01.680
Speaker:
couple of people that have

775
00:29:01.680 –> 00:29:03.880
Speaker:
followed me now that have ties

776
00:29:03.880 –> 00:29:04.880
Speaker:
to some of the people of

777
00:29:04.880 –> 00:29:05.400
Speaker:
interest.

778
00:29:05.400 –> 00:29:05.720
Speaker:
Okay.

779
00:29:05.720 –> 00:29:05.880
Speaker:
Yeah.

780
00:29:05.880 –> 00:29:06.599
Speaker:
That’s interesting.

781
00:29:06.599 –> 00:29:07.519
Speaker:
So yeah, yeah.

782
00:29:07.519 –> 00:29:09.519
Speaker:
So when you start, you know,

783
00:29:09.519 –> 00:29:10.200
Speaker:
you’re getting close to

784
00:29:10.200 –> 00:29:11.460
Speaker:
something when, when you know,

785
00:29:11.460 –> 00:29:12.680
Speaker:
that kind of stuff starts

786
00:29:12.680 –> 00:29:13.240
Speaker:
happening.

787
00:29:13.240 –> 00:29:14.259
Speaker:
And, uh, yes, you know,

788
00:29:14.259 –> 00:29:15.700
Speaker:
hopefully, you know, you don’t

789
00:29:15.700 –> 00:29:16.839
Speaker:
get any threats or anything like

790
00:29:16.839 –> 00:29:17.079
Speaker:
that.

791
00:29:17.079 –> 00:29:19.240
Speaker:
But yeah, I’m not really that
worried about it.

792
00:29:19.240 –> 00:29:20.559
Speaker:
I mean, I’ve been in some pretty

793
00:29:20.559 –> 00:29:22.039
Speaker:
tight predicaments, but that’s I

794
00:29:22.039 –> 00:29:23.559
Speaker:
mean, that’s not even an issue

795
00:29:23.559 –> 00:29:24.000
Speaker:
for me.

796
00:29:24.000 –> 00:29:26.480
Speaker:
But, you know, it’s just and I

797
00:29:26.480 –> 00:29:27.960
Speaker:
feel like I think if I’m not

798
00:29:27.960 –> 00:29:29.440
Speaker:
mistaken, and you may check with

799
00:29:29.440 –> 00:29:30.519
Speaker:
Andi’s mom on this, but I feel

800
00:29:30.519 –> 00:29:31.400
Speaker:
like the family’s been

801
00:29:31.400 –> 00:29:33.319
Speaker:
threatened to before by some

802
00:29:33.319 –> 00:29:34.200
Speaker:
people.

803
00:29:34.200 –> 00:29:35.440
Speaker:
Uh, and it just keeps coming

804
00:29:35.440 –> 00:29:36.880
Speaker:
back to the same, it’s the same

805
00:29:36.880 –> 00:29:37.279
Speaker:
circle.

806
00:29:37.279 –> 00:29:38.799
Speaker:
It’s the same six, eight, ten

807
00:29:38.799 –> 00:29:40.359
Speaker:
people that, you know, was

808
00:29:40.359 –> 00:29:41.299
Speaker:
involved.

809
00:29:41.299 –> 00:29:42.339
Speaker:
Somebody’s going to crack.

810
00:29:42.339 –> 00:29:44.099
Speaker:
Somebody’s going to somebody’s
going to crack.

811
00:29:44.099 –> 00:29:45.059
Speaker:
At some point, they’re going to

812
00:29:45.059 –> 00:29:45.980
Speaker:
get arrested for something else

813
00:29:45.980 –> 00:29:47.259
Speaker:
and they’re just going to crack,

814
00:29:47.259 –> 00:29:47.900
Speaker:
I think.

815
00:29:47.900 –> 00:29:49.779
Speaker:
And then that’s going to break
this thing open.

816
00:29:49.779 –> 00:29:51.299
Speaker:
Well, and that’s what that’s
what you know.

817
00:29:51.299 –> 00:29:52.940
Speaker:
So one of them, the Billy Scott

818
00:29:52.940 –> 00:29:54.619
Speaker:
guy, that that was a person of

819
00:29:54.619 –> 00:29:56.539
Speaker:
interest, supposedly he’s a

820
00:29:56.539 –> 00:29:58.660
Speaker:
federal informant.

821
00:29:58.660 –> 00:30:00.420
Speaker:
He’s a paid informant for I

822
00:30:00.420 –> 00:30:01.700
Speaker:
don’t know if it’s the FBI or

823
00:30:01.700 –> 00:30:03.299
Speaker:
who it is, but he has a long

824
00:30:03.299 –> 00:30:05.140
Speaker:
list of drug charges and tied in

825
00:30:05.140 –> 00:30:06.259
Speaker:
with, you know, some other

826
00:30:06.259 –> 00:30:06.500
Speaker:
stuff.

827
00:30:06.500 –> 00:30:09.539
Speaker:
And the nurses, Homer Durst is
the name that keeps popping up.

828
00:30:09.539 –> 00:30:11.259
Speaker:
I’ve seen those names pop up

829
00:30:11.259 –> 00:30:12.299
Speaker:
quite a bit on the on the

830
00:30:12.299 –> 00:30:13.099
Speaker:
Facebook page.

831
00:30:13.099 –> 00:30:13.539
Speaker:
Yeah.

832
00:30:13.539 –> 00:30:15.119
Speaker:
So he’s supposed to be tied with

833
00:30:15.119 –> 00:30:16.519
Speaker:
the Aryan Brotherhood, which

834
00:30:16.519 –> 00:30:17.700
Speaker:
kind of gives it a whole new

835
00:30:17.700 –> 00:30:18.660
Speaker:
aspect.

836
00:30:18.660 –> 00:30:22.660
Speaker:
So if that’s the case, then the
Aryan Brotherhood is going to

837
00:30:22.660 –> 00:30:24.420
Speaker:
help cover for him.

838
00:30:24.420 –> 00:30:24.740
Speaker:
Okay.

839
00:30:24.740 –> 00:30:25.539
Speaker:
And that’s not really an

840
00:30:25.539 –> 00:30:26.579
Speaker:
organization you really want to

841
00:30:26.579 –> 00:30:26.900
Speaker:
cross.

842
00:30:26.900 –> 00:30:27.859
Speaker:
I’m assuming it is.

843
00:30:27.859 –> 00:30:29.220
Speaker:
Absolutely not.

844
00:30:30.339 –> 00:30:32.779
Speaker:
And, uh, I’m the type of person

845
00:30:32.779 –> 00:30:34.059
Speaker:
I, I’ll, I’ll go knock on their

846
00:30:34.059 –> 00:30:36.460
Speaker:
door, you know, but I’m not

847
00:30:36.460 –> 00:30:37.619
Speaker:
going.

848
00:30:37.619 –> 00:30:38.880
Speaker:
If I could get the, the

849
00:30:38.880 –> 00:30:40.589
Speaker:
authorities, the FBI or

850
00:30:40.589 –> 00:30:42.019
Speaker:
Evansville police or somebody to

851
00:30:42.019 –> 00:30:43.859
Speaker:
say, hey, this is what we’ve got

852
00:30:43.859 –> 00:30:45.440
Speaker:
going on.

853
00:30:45.440 –> 00:30:46.440
Speaker:
Don’t do this.

854
00:30:46.440 –> 00:30:49.200
Speaker:
You know, then I’ll know that
they’ve got something.

855
00:30:49.200 –> 00:30:54.359
Speaker:
But not too long ago, the FBI
agent that Elaine, Andi’s moms

856
00:30:54.359 –> 00:30:58.440
Speaker:
talks to sent her a text or
called her on the phone or

857
00:30:58.440 –> 00:31:02.240
Speaker:
something and said that we may
have something that will either

858
00:31:02.240 –> 00:31:04.000
Speaker:
make or break the case.

859
00:31:04.000 –> 00:31:04.960
Speaker:
Okay.

860
00:31:04.960 –> 00:31:07.039
Speaker:
But that’s been about a month
ago, and that was the last she

861
00:31:07.039 –> 00:31:07.599
Speaker:
heard from them.

862
00:31:07.599 –> 00:31:08.039
Speaker:
Okay.

863
00:31:08.039 –> 00:31:09.359
Speaker:
Yes.

864
00:31:09.359 –> 00:31:10.039
Speaker:
Interesting.

865
00:31:10.039 –> 00:31:12.839
Speaker:
So. Well, I guess maybe there’s
some stuff going on behind the

866
00:31:12.839 –> 00:31:14.279
Speaker:
scenes that is just.

867
00:31:14.279 –> 00:31:16.140
Speaker:
And I’m sure there is, you know,

868
00:31:16.140 –> 00:31:18.160
Speaker:
being in that that industry of

869
00:31:18.160 –> 00:31:20.240
Speaker:
work that there’s a there’s so

870
00:31:20.240 –> 00:31:21.160
Speaker:
much behind the scenes that

871
00:31:21.160 –> 00:31:22.119
Speaker:
people don’t know that they

872
00:31:22.119 –> 00:31:23.359
Speaker:
can’t know, you know, and I

873
00:31:23.359 –> 00:31:24.359
Speaker:
mean, being on that side of it,

874
00:31:24.359 –> 00:31:25.599
Speaker:
I wouldn’t exactly have a press

875
00:31:25.599 –> 00:31:26.640
Speaker:
conference every time I got a

876
00:31:26.640 –> 00:31:27.000
Speaker:
new tip.

877
00:31:27.000 –> 00:31:27.799
Speaker:
You know, you’d want to keep

878
00:31:27.799 –> 00:31:29.440
Speaker:
that on the low down and

879
00:31:29.440 –> 00:31:29.759
Speaker:
everything.

880
00:31:29.759 –> 00:31:31.119
Speaker:
But as a family member, you

881
00:31:31.119 –> 00:31:32.039
Speaker:
know, you want to think, is

882
00:31:32.039 –> 00:31:33.059
Speaker:
something happening, you know,

883
00:31:33.059 –> 00:31:34.079
Speaker:
what’s going on or you haven’t

884
00:31:34.079 –> 00:31:35.119
Speaker:
forgotten, right?

885
00:31:35.119 –> 00:31:35.839
Speaker:
So I think it’s great.

886
00:31:35.839 –> 00:31:38.240
Speaker:
What you’re doing is kind of
keeping the the pressure on and

887
00:31:38.240 –> 00:31:39.549
Speaker:
bringing attention to the case.

888
00:31:39.549 –> 00:31:41.150
Speaker:
And yeah, and that’s, that’s

889
00:31:41.150 –> 00:31:42.609
Speaker:
kind of that’s the main goal is,

890
00:31:42.609 –> 00:31:43.950
Speaker:
you know, it’d be great if we

891
00:31:43.950 –> 00:31:44.630
Speaker:
found something.

892
00:31:44.630 –> 00:31:46.670
Speaker:
Yeah, to kind of, you know,
bring that closure.

893
00:31:46.670 –> 00:31:48.930
Speaker:
But as long as we’re out there

894
00:31:48.930 –> 00:31:51.349
Speaker:
doing, being active on this

895
00:31:51.349 –> 00:31:53.750
Speaker:
case, um, and we’re probably

896
00:31:53.750 –> 00:31:54.670
Speaker:
going to start on some other

897
00:31:54.670 –> 00:31:55.549
Speaker:
ones too.

898
00:31:55.549 –> 00:31:55.869
Speaker:
Okay.

899
00:31:55.869 –> 00:31:58.349
Speaker:
I think there’s a Juanita or
something like that from

900
00:31:58.349 –> 00:31:59.309
Speaker:
Evansville that’s been missing.

901
00:31:59.309 –> 00:31:59.990
Speaker:
Oh, absolutely.

902
00:31:59.990 –> 00:32:00.230
Speaker:
Yeah.

903
00:32:00.230 –> 00:32:01.349
Speaker:
She’s been missing a while.

904
00:32:01.349 –> 00:32:01.950
Speaker:
Yeah.

905
00:32:01.950 –> 00:32:02.309
Speaker:
Yeah.

906
00:32:02.309 –> 00:32:03.829
Speaker:
And we’re probably going to

907
00:32:03.829 –> 00:32:05.069
Speaker:
start working on that one before

908
00:32:05.069 –> 00:32:05.869
Speaker:
long.

909
00:32:05.869 –> 00:32:07.849
Speaker:
Um, but we’re going to pour in a

910
00:32:07.849 –> 00:32:10.750
Speaker:
lot of man hours on Andi’s case

911
00:32:10.750 –> 00:32:13.430
Speaker:
before we have to pull off of it

912
00:32:13.430 –> 00:32:14.390
Speaker:
or whatever.

913
00:32:14.390 –> 00:32:15.890
Speaker:
Well, I mean, I’ll be following

914
00:32:15.890 –> 00:32:17.069
Speaker:
and, and good luck with all your

915
00:32:17.069 –> 00:32:17.630
Speaker:
searches.

916
00:32:17.630 –> 00:32:18.630
Speaker:
Yeah, absolutely.

917
00:32:18.630 –> 00:32:19.630
Speaker:
If you need anything else or

918
00:32:19.630 –> 00:32:20.789
Speaker:
anything else that may help,

919
00:32:20.789 –> 00:32:21.869
Speaker:
just holler at us and I’ll do

920
00:32:21.869 –> 00:32:22.230
Speaker:
the same.

921
00:32:22.230 –> 00:32:22.509
Speaker:
All right.

922
00:32:22.509 –> 00:32:22.829
Speaker:
We’ll do.

923
00:32:22.829 –> 00:32:23.230
Speaker:
Thanks a lot.

924
00:32:23.230 –> 00:32:26.509
Speaker:
Rick and Rick’s TikTok is Front

925
00:32:26.509 –> 00:32:28.069
Speaker:
Porch America, so check that

926
00:32:28.069 –> 00:32:28.190
Speaker:
out.

927
00:32:28.190 –> 00:32:29.470
Speaker:
I’ve got links down in the show

928
00:32:29.470 –> 00:32:31.069
Speaker:
notes to that, as well as to the

929
00:32:31.069 –> 00:32:33.109
Speaker:
YouTubers Trey and Ronnie from

930
00:32:33.109 –> 00:32:34.390
Speaker:
narc, Divers and Brothers

931
00:32:34.390 –> 00:32:36.150
Speaker:
Underwater Recovery.

932
00:32:36.150 –> 00:32:39.390
Speaker:
And I’ve also got a link to the
Juju’s Rabbit Hole interview

933
00:32:39.390 –> 00:32:41.690
Speaker:
with Frankie Lee.

934
00:32:41.690 –> 00:32:43.450
Speaker:
So check those out.

935
00:32:43.450 –> 00:32:46.150
Speaker:
And my whole purpose of this
episode was to shine some light

936
00:32:46.150 –> 00:32:47.170
Speaker:
on Andi’s case.

937
00:32:47.170 –> 00:32:49.690
Speaker:
And maybe you’re listening, and
you think you have a little

938
00:32:49.690 –> 00:32:53.210
Speaker:
piece of information that might
be important in this case.

939
00:32:53.210 –> 00:32:55.529
Speaker:
I encourage you to call the
Evansville Police Department at

940
00:32:55.529 –> 00:32:59.410
Speaker:
eight one two four three six
seven nine seven nine and report

941
00:32:59.410 –> 00:33:00.490
Speaker:
what you know.

942
00:33:00.490 –> 00:33:00.970
Speaker:
You never know.

943
00:33:00.970 –> 00:33:02.690
Speaker:
Maybe that little piece of
information that you think is

944
00:33:02.690 –> 00:33:06.970
Speaker:
insignificant is what is needed
to kind of break this case open.

945
00:33:06.970 –> 00:33:08.289
Speaker:
And as always, thank you for

946
00:33:08.289 –> 00:33:09.529
Speaker:
listening and for those

947
00:33:09.529 –> 00:33:11.009
Speaker:
subscribers who follow on

948
00:33:11.009 –> 00:33:11.609
Speaker:
Stitcher.

949
00:33:11.609 –> 00:33:15.130
Speaker:
Just so you know, Stitcher in
August twenty twenty three is

950
00:33:15.130 –> 00:33:16.369
Speaker:
going out of business.

951
00:33:16.369 –> 00:33:21.410
Speaker:
So you may want to find another
podcast app to subscribe on.

952
00:33:21.410 –> 00:33:24.730
Speaker:
I use Podcast addict and have
really liked that.

953
00:33:24.730 –> 00:33:26.809
Speaker:
So that’s my suggestion.

954
00:33:26.809 –> 00:33:28.009
Speaker:
Again, thank you for listening.

955
00:33:28.009 –> 00:33:30.289
Speaker:
And until next time, take care.